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Author Topic: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.  (Read 201725 times)

4Tesla

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2008, 03:49:56 AM »
You can use HHO to help increase your gas mileage, but you can't run an engine on pure HHO.. at least on a 4 cycle engine.. It may be possible to run a 2 cycle engine on HHO, but it is hard to find a 2 cycle that will run non-liquid fuel.  If anyone has been able to run a 2 cycle engine on HHO only, please let me know.  Also if anyone knows of a 2 cycle engine built to run on propane or natural gas, please let me know.

Jason

Can we run our car with water and gas?   
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?


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mostrander

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2008, 05:53:47 PM »
It is possable to run a 4 cycle engine on pure HHO.

4Tesla

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2008, 06:36:28 PM »
It is possable to run a 4 cycle engine on pure HHO.

You have anymore info... a link?

Jason

4Tesla

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2008, 11:56:02 PM »
Now with this engine, HHO should work!  Instead of using pure hydrogen and having a hydrogen tank.. just use HHO.  That way the engine is working with just one fuel and not two... just water!

How on earth I miss this news posting here  :-\

Another company from Japan has produced a water powered vehicle

This is completely different to genepax in terms of technology. According to the company, a hydrogen tank is needed, and Hydrogen is injected into the piston and water is delivered once it is ignited. Hydrogen combustion is used merely to produce steam from water, and the piston's power stroke is essentially driven by water steam.

http://www.haw-system.jp/English/indexE.html

Two videos in the site explains the technology.



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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2008, 04:07:24 AM »
This is a possibility, but water delivery to the piston needs engine tweaking which demands much more skills and tools than building a home HHO Cell. If somebody has an engine to spare, and time, skills and a good machine shop with tools, this can be an interesting line of research.


Now with this engine, HHO should work!  Instead of using pure hydrogen and having a hydrogen tank.. just use HHO.  That way the engine is working with just one fuel and not two... just water!


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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2008, 05:12:10 AM »
I don't know if anybody else has seen it but the Japanese also have what they call H4O. It is water that has been infused with extra hydrogen atoms. Don't have the link handy but you can google H4O and get it.

sirmikey1

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #96 on: August 13, 2008, 03:04:34 AM »
People went crazy over this story.  I never realized it was an electric car, that the genepax device was just a battery charger. Now that the smoke has cleared, I'm still banking on some modified form of Steven Mark's solid state generator as the king of the jungle.  Oscillate this at 6000 hertz:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anYxNitcrm0 

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2008, 02:55:18 PM »
FWD from my youtube correspondence:

> Ruthenium and Platinum catalysts.

Yes but arent they catalysts....meaning self replenishing!...end of the day....lets keep aside whats happening inside the FC...you give in water...electricity out...charges batt!...car runs!

Once they ramp up the tech to make 3 or 4 KW cells or higher and integrate with ultra capacitors, it could make the required energy on the fly...so its a feasible tech...which is consuming water as a fuel and no other replenishments.

I had spoken to the Jap guys some time ago and wanted to know if they had plans of launching these FC's in India...anyways they stopped corresponding after a while....but they did tell me that they were already working on a 3KW system.

R.

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #98 on: August 14, 2008, 04:19:53 AM »
The real issue is not with their technology, but the fact they are being so adamant on hiding things away, which already stressed out last bit of enthusiasm of the few those who believed it. If they can demonstrate their cell, even few volts at few amps just enough to run a light bulb in front of an international audience and let their technology tested by few international Independent testing agencies, all skepticism can be washed off.

Without giving out proper scientific evidence, they have chosen mass publicity by tricking people to think their water cell generated power to run that eclectic car. This is grossly wrong approach and their silence add to the suspicion.

sirmikey1

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #99 on: August 14, 2008, 05:24:45 AM »

  Also putting in-wheel motors/generators (alternating) in the wheels
to charge batteries; and/or a very small gas engine strictly to charge
the battery (900 mile range).
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdRS7eVVZbU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB9RpSwpA6I&NR=1

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #100 on: August 15, 2008, 08:47:47 AM »
Hello...Hello...HHO is the demanding energy today, this energy is a must to have it, specially the gas industry is depending on the oil resource from the countries that have it, but some day it will be finish to extract from the earth of our globe, lets use a natural resources, HHO means the answer of the future resources. Lets make an acceptance of this energy. USA must accept the production of this type of car from Japan. Thank you.

Best Regards

Tito

sirmikey1

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #101 on: August 15, 2008, 09:19:51 AM »

1 kilowatt will power a house, and so Japan
needs to market this to homeowners also.

Cal

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #102 on: August 20, 2008, 12:43:11 AM »
1 kilowatt will power a house, and so Japan
needs to market this to homeowners also.

Cal

A hair-dryer needs 1kilowatt, not a house.

4Tesla

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2008, 01:07:14 AM »
10kw is typical.. and 4kw small or very green house.

mscoffman

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Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2008, 02:27:53 AM »

A house needs 25KW peak for only a brief period. Lets say 25KWH.
10KW peak supply is low. This is without an electric vehicle and without
heating considerations as that varies with climate and insulation.

But the average house needs only *1.5KW* continuous for
a total of about 1MWH per month. Look at your electric bill
if you don't believe this. Any unique continuous base load
would need to be added to this. (like a tropical aquarium or soming).

That means that 2 X GM-Volt-Car-Batteries = 32KWH could provide
the total peak storage required for an off grid house. A rational physical size.

So actually any device that can provide 1.5KW on a continuous basis
is enough to power your average home. Double that if your going to supply
an electric vehicle. Well within range IMHO of what people are discussing
around here.

If you don't have storage then you will need the whole 10->25KW and a very
fast energy slew rate. - Why make the design of things any harder then they
already are?

:S:MarkSCoffman