Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83850
  • *Latest: Calceus

  • *Total Posts: 521849
  • *Total Topics: 15551
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 6
  • *Guests: 21
  • *Total: 27

Author Topic: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.  (Read 141659 times)

Offline sirmikey1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #105 on: August 20, 2008, 03:34:13 AM »
Coffman,
   Thanks for your input.  I never realized that the
power demands would vary to such extremes, that
one would need either hefty batteries/storage or
mammoth generator capacity. 
SMikey 

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline sirmikey1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #106 on: August 20, 2008, 11:31:14 AM »
Coffman and all,

  Anyone looked at the efficiency of the new sound
wave refrigeration and heat appliances?  When applied
to an off grid house, replacing all major appliances with
this, what would be an educated guess on the average
and peak home power needed?

  I am also curious about efficiency on the new sound wave
water to hydrogen technology, versus electrolysis. Instantly
vaporizes water, or can also immediately convert water into
thermo explosive energy.  Similar to Stanley Meyers
last device, One of the most important inventions of the century.

Thanks,
SirMikey
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 12:27:37 PM by sirmikey1 »

Offline helmut

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 720
    • in construction
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #107 on: August 20, 2008, 03:25:13 PM »
A hair-dryer needs 1kilowatt, not a house.


On one Hand you are right. A hair dryer might consume 1800W/h as well.
But if you have a energy source,  that gifes you 1 KW/h, is enough to power a house.

24 hours per day multiplied with 1 KW for each hour summes up to 24KW for the Day
My electricity bill counts a daily consum of 8-12 KW.

With such a source you need a clever energy management.
Thats the Point.
Radio, TV and Computer as well as the Bell on the door require a small quantity only , that
can be supplied from a converter via one Battery.
Some of this devises work with 12 Volt .

Heat Energy can be stored in Stones and deloadet via a heat exchanger.

Other appliencys use water as medium to store heat energy.

Wheater it is the water for shower, or the central heater, there is no need to
use a high power supply like 24KW/h.
The loundry for example needs not a heater, but a hotwater supply.
The motor to drive the washdrum can be modified to work with 12 Volt.
Same with the dish washer.
The hair dryer can be supplyed from a converter just as the microwave oven.
But for the baking equipment in the kitchen,it might be more of use to
take propane and such gas to be powered.

helmut

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #107 on: August 20, 2008, 03:25:13 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline zawwin

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2008, 11:56:19 AM »
From:
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080616/153301/
( Jun 16, 2008 )

Genepax President Interviewed on 'Water Energy System'

by
Kouji Kariatsumari
( Nikkei Electronics )

Genepax's New Fuel Cell System

Kiyoshi Hirasawa, president of Genepax Co Ltd, unveiled part of the reaction mechanism of the company's new fuel cell system called "Water Energy System" in an interview with Nikkei Electronics.

The system, which is capable of generating power with water and air, was first presented June 12, 2008. As reported in our previous article, the system produces hydrogen through a chemical reaction between water and a metal (or a metal compound) on the fuel electrode side (See related article).

Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

According to Genepax, the metal or the metal compound is supported by a porous body such as zeolite inside the fuel electrode of the membrane electrode assembly (MEA). The products of the hydrogen generation reaction dissolves in water, and the water containing them will be discharged with water inside the system. Upon the completion of the reaction, the generation of hydrogen and power stops.

Considering the commercialization of the system, Genepax is conducting evaluation tests and plans to release test data.


Offline cyclopz

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 31
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2008, 07:56:27 AM »
Toyota hired Pons and Fleischmann back in the 90's... I'm willing to bet that they're just shelving a ton of cold-fusion technology... You know one day Toyota will suddenly magically "discover" some breakthrough in water fuel that they've actually been sitting on for 20 years.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2008, 07:56:27 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline sirmikey1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2008, 02:56:17 PM »
You have anymore info... a link?
Jason

  The oldest water fuel videos on youtube and google prove it.  Look up Joe's cell
and "stage 3" hho production required to run an engine without petrol.
SM

Offline Reformator

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 75
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #111 on: September 25, 2008, 12:38:22 AM »
Mass production, when?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #111 on: September 25, 2008, 12:38:22 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline sirmikey1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #112 on: September 25, 2008, 01:29:09 AM »
Reform,
  They've still got problems with capacity.  The fuel cell
only generates 1kw and needs 3kw to be able to power
the car. 
sm

Offline sirmikey1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #113 on: October 07, 2008, 04:58:55 AM »



52KWH Battery Patent

barium titanate

http://www.rexresearch.com/weir/weir.htm

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #113 on: October 07, 2008, 04:58:55 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline djeenius

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 3
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #114 on: October 15, 2008, 09:27:09 PM »
Hello,

I suggested Sodium-Water Fuel reaction for powering cars under other topic (Water arc energy)
based on a discussion of a Mythbusters Forum
http://www.mythbustersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

This type of battery (sodium is reduced by electricity to metal and the back to ion by H2o)
are likely explanation for the Japanese Water fuel cells.

If the cells contain metal reacting with water energy can be created,
in one of the first translations possibly aluminium (with a miss spell)
was mentioned.
Thus the actual energy source could be reaction
Al + 3 H2O   ->  Al3+   +  3 OH-   + 1.5 H2
Are they using also hydrogen, which may be created?

This could actually work as battery if
Al could be regenerated by electricity

Offline unity2zero

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 32
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2008, 07:04:23 PM »
Sorry to disappoint you all, but we have evidence that the demonstrated car was not really running on the WES (the cell). The system was outputting only 300Ws of power (according to the internal communication) and connected to charge the batteries of the electric vehicle. So at the time of capturing Reuters video the vehicle is indeed running on batteries, which is not a proof of concept for the WES cell.

But their Cell seems to be producing electricity as they claimed. 300W with the displayed system. So any load under this rating can be run using the cell. In theory they could stack up more of such cells to drive the small car they have shown (electric motor is well over 3kW).

Independent verification of the cell is yet to be made, and the company is so strict on giving out information. Only thing is to wait and see some fellow researches reverse engineer the patent information and prove or disprove the claim.

From history, all "over unity" inventions or devices follows a similar path of event. One moment it drew a lot of excitement, and next moment it simply gone  :)

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2008, 07:04:23 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline magdin

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2008, 02:34:10 PM »
It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
 8)

Offline magdin

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2008, 02:35:44 PM »
It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
 8)

Offline raburgeson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 705
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #118 on: March 22, 2010, 04:45:09 PM »
I got a feeling that rare Earth materials are being used in the generator. This group has tried so many different ways to crack water that's about the only thing left to try.

http://www.rechinaonline.com/english/

You can get the skinny here. Might have to transmute metal to get it in volume though. I read somewhere about manipulating neutrons in a lab to make gold. I see no reason why these materials couldn't become available the same way. Of course they don't figure on letting us know exactly how that process works. They want to protect their manipulated prices on materials. Probably got the process working off what John Hutchison was doing. They keep track of him so they can make sure he doesn't figure it out. If Los Alamos has analyzed the materials that have mutated in his lab though you can be sure they know how to do it. Thought it would be nice to remove a stumbling block before it gets pulled out that time. The governments have been jerking us around. They are holding back the, we don't have enough for production explanation if someone figures it out. Stainless is not the answer that's for sure. How many cells haven't been replicated so far? They might need coated with the right element.

Offline mscoffman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1377
Re: Japanese Company Has A Car That Runs On Water.
« Reply #119 on: March 22, 2010, 07:53:41 PM »
It is a little tiresome with all those claimed "perpetuum"s, cars driven by water and so on
without description of what the core in the concepts are.  What exactly do they do and
what is exactly their inputs and outputs?  Already a steam engine could be called an
engine driven by water - as also a water mill. 

The only true water driven engine I know, very close to a PM2,  is the "Drinking Bird"
concept.  That machine fulfills working freely in an overall equal  environment temperature.
If not water was consumed, it would be a true PM2.  Although not working in too humid or cold conditions - the main reason why it is not used as universal energy source today? 
 8)

This is true, but is also becoming tedious to answer...CF cold fusion can supply
energy directly from deuterium hydrogen isotope atoms contained in natural
water...there is plenty of evidence that this actually occurs. So extra heat
energy is output and the input changes the water vapor slightly but in ways
that are re-equalized when exhaust water is vented back into to environment.
Natural deuterium could supply mankind's energy needs for millions of years.
The question is how to use it...In large fusion reactors like ITER or in
individual engines etc.

Actually evaporative water cooling is used as an energy adjunct in large
commercial air conditioning systems. It has a relatively low energy
density.

:S:MarkSCoffman

 

OneLink