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hartiberlin

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Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« on: September 14, 2005, 08:48:52 AM »
Hi ALl,
here is a  new video from Lutec Australia, which shows more
power output than input.
It is only a small model from their bigger machine.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2005, 06:10:13 AM »
It's really great to find infromation about the Lutec machine somewhere else than our local paper.
I know these men who invented it here, tested it here, announced it in the local press with pictures, then it was bought by an American firm.....where is it now?
There are a lot of angry people here in Cairns who could use that machine right now, including me, but hey! you're not allowed to outdo the Establishment, so dammit, we've decided to build our own! >:(

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 06:46:26 PM »
 emailed the company as soon as I found out about it, to purchase one or more. They have not responded. I realize why now. The morons no longer own the patent.

 sypherios

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 03:00:26 PM »
sold out to the banksters eh?

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2005, 04:41:36 PM »
I am not entirly sure of that.I will try more contacting. I would recomend other do so as well. If one of us gets through perhaps they can tell us wutz up.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2006, 07:22:24 AM »
This company is a classic example of a scam.  They have been in business with promises of a product that they won't sell, and they never quite seem to finish the project.  But they will accept investments of cash.  But of course they only accept up to the governmental limit of shares without a prospectus or other declarations as legitimate corporations must do.

Companies that will not sell even a set of plans and a license to build one unit have something to hide, or nothing to offer.  Either way, they should be avoided at all costs.

Of course they will not answer email requests for product information.  But I bet they will respond quickly if one wished to invest.

Notice how they utilize the medium of the Internet to distribute their scam without reprisal.  The video can fool a lot of people until one notices that they are measuring DC input and AC output.  Not even comparable.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 06:19:59 AM »
They shold be sellin em now, wtf. Anyone got anything from them? I want friggin! !500!.


                   Sincerly Sypherios

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 08:19:25 PM »
hello again, someone please go pound down thier door and get this thing out for the puiblic, god this is frustersting...

                                                  sincerly Sypherios

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2006, 05:00:49 AM »
This company is a classic example of a scam.  They have been in business with promises of a product that they won't sell, and they never quite seem to finish the project.  But they will accept investments of cash.  But of course they only accept up to the governmental limit of shares without a prospectus or other declarations as legitimate corporations must do.

This is one of the largest problems. Even if it is legit, it gives the impression that it isn't. I'm so sick of this crap. I understand that you have to protect yourself and your interests but, it should have been on the market somewhere by now!

I believe overall that the possibility of a new science is out there, but I am hesitant to believe anything until it has been proven.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 03:17:12 PM »
It's really great to find infromation about the Lutec machine somewhere else than our local paper.
I know these men who invented it here, tested it here, announced it in the local press with pictures, then it was bought by an American firm.....where is it now?
There are a lot of angry people here in Cairns who could use that machine right now, including me, but hey! you're not allowed to outdo the Establishment, so dammit, we've decided to build our own! >:(

Oh, come on!  Lutec is a blatant scam.  They started out several years ago soliciting "investments" through a numbered bank account in Singapore, but they stopped that when the Austrailian authorities stepped in.  And they've had many chances to demonstrate the motor to qualified people.  As I recall, an Aussie skeptics group went to their location to see and test the device, but Brits & Christie "lost the key" to the lab and they couldn't get to it.  The claim that they've been bought out by an American firm is just more smoke they're blowing up people's a$$es.

My god, how can people be so gullible?


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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2006, 07:42:22 AM »
These people are a scam. I think they are actually South African.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 10:00:52 PM »
REF: Lutec Small Motor

Their measurements are flawed.  DC power and AC power have different units.
AC power is measured in VA (Volt Amps )
The reason DC and AC power measurements are not the same is as follows:
DC has no frequency component and therefore voltage and current are in phase.
AC has a frequency component and voltage and current are not in phase so power
is the RMSvoltage x RMScurrent.

Comparing the DC power with the AC power is meaningless.  You can however convert the VA to a comparible real power by using the following formula.
VA is simply calculated by rmsvolts x rmscurrent
Power factor PF is the ratio of True Power/Apparent Power
Calculating PF is not always easy so a convention/estimate is used as 0.6 and is unitless.

                                                             (VAxPF)=Watts

So using this formula, the motor power is 16.4VA x 0.6 =9.84W

Seeing that these people didn't seem to know about VA, it is apparent that their overunity may be
problematic since their measurements don't make sense.  If their AC voltage and current was measured using peak reading meters then:

(1.4Ax0.707)x(11Vx0.707)=7.7VA             7.7VA x 0.6=4.61W  even less power estimated and is most likely less than this because the Power Factor has not been given.

As you can see it is easy for some of these people to fudge results to trick you in believing they have an overunity motor.


Valveman
« Last Edit: May 11, 2006, 10:39:33 PM by valveman »

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2006, 04:40:41 AM »
Read the "How it Works" Sound like nothing more than a plain old DC motor connected to a AC generator.

They also talk about a magnet holding a load to a beam as if it is doing work. The force may be sufficient to keep the load suspended but holding something stationary doesn't qualify as doing work. They compare it to an electromagnet and talk about wasted energy. The lost energy is because of resistance of the coils not because it is doing work to keep the load suspended.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2006, 05:33:50 PM »
...talk about a magnet holding a load to a beam as if it is doing work. The force may be sufficient to keep the load suspended but holding something stationary doesn't qualify as doing work.

Yes, using this concept you could power their machine using clothes pegs or masking tape, they do just as much work holding things in place.

A search of the patent database at <a href="http://ipaustralia.gov.au">IP Australia</a> shows no patents that match any of the numbers they quote on their website.  Nor do there seem to be any patents filed under their names.

No product and constant stalling, seems like a pretty obvious scam.  The Lutec heading should be moved into the scam section where it belongs.

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Re: Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2006, 01:21:17 PM »
@ Bluey
Do you have plans of the machine or can they be viewed somewhere.