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Author Topic: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor  (Read 25819 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« on: June 05, 2008, 11:03:07 AM »
Hi All,
I visited about 20 years ago in around 1987/88 an inventor
living near Munich,Germany.

He was working on a great magnet motor.
At this time he was only having weak ferrite magnets,
but with todays Neodymn magnets this motor could
really work overunity, if it will be designed also with better coils.

I just uploaded the video I took at this time now to my google video account:

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=368366283936115731


It is in German language, but just have a look at it.

This way, normal car motors can be converted to run on magnet power.

He is using Iron cores with an electromagnet inside the iron tube.
The piston magnet is sucked into the iron tube and when the electromagnet is
energized, the piston magnet is pushed out of the iron tube.

At the time when I was visiting, he was still driving the electromagnets
via contact points from a car battery.
It was using at this time around 12 Volts and 20 amps pulses to switch
the electromagnets.
But with a better electromagnet design ala Newman coil and
new very strong Neodymn magnets this could be powered much longer
and the sparks from the Newman coils could reacharge the batteries.

Then it could go overunity.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 11:13:20 AM »
P.S: From minute 19:20 of this above video you can see the iron tubes with the electromagnet inside.
The electromagnet is used to repell the piston magnets out of the iron tube again.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 11:23:26 PM »
Hello Stefan,

This is what I found on 'baecker konrad' in espacenet in the 'inventor'-field.

This is the weblink for espacenet:
http://v3.espacenet.com/results?sf=a&FIRST=1&CY=nl&LG=nl&DB=EPODOC&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=baecker+konrad&EC=&IC=&=&=&=&=&=

Two magnetic engine patents and one rotary internal combustion engine:
DE3633775, DE102004009011, WO99/46482

I suppose you are talking about the older patent DE3633775. Patents with 'behoerdeneigentum' may be particularly intriguing.

Ceres
« Last Edit: June 12, 2008, 03:41:11 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 11:23:26 PM »
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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 11:50:13 AM »
http://v3.espacenet.com/results?sf=a&FIRST=1&CY=nl&LG=nl&DB=EPODOC&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=baecker+konrad&EC=&IC=&=&=&=&=&=

An working link
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Danke Gustav
Guter Link   Man k?nnte meinen,der Nordpolmotor w?re l?ngst schon erfunden.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 04:22:08 PM »
Helmut,

Ist der Over Unity Nordpol oder Suedpol motor schon laengst erfunden? Wer hat das geschafft? Welche links koennen Sie geben? Ich mag exakte Beispiele.

Ceres

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 12:29:39 AM »
Helmut,

Ist der Over Unity Nordpol oder Suedpol motor schon laengst erfunden? Wer hat das geschafft? Welche links koennen Sie geben? Ich mag exakte Beispiele.

Ceres

@Ceres
Bitte sehen sie sich die verf?gbaren Patente in Ruhe an und vergleichen den Grundaufbau mit
einem Pulsmotor.
Der von ihnen nachgefragte Overunity Norpol oder S?dpolmotor war zu keiner Zeit war
zu keiner Zeit Gegenstand meiner Anmerkung.
Links mit exacten Beispielen habe ich nicht im Angebot.
Jedenfalls erachte ich die verlinkten Patenthinweise als au?erordentlich wertvoll.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 10:14:45 AM »
Cool!



I just figured out that I have an extra Ford V6 block that I could utilize..

And now I realized that I have an extra Oldsmobile V8 block too (Diesel 5.7 litre, useless P.O.S. as it is I believe stroke in that engine is really close 4" cylinder bore approx 4" (of coure I can tear down the cylinder pipes)) nothing beats cubic inches, or in this case coils, or should I say flux???


I Don't even care that would it run as an overunity machine, if It just could move my car around with reasonable amount of batteries on trunk..



But please, Let's keep this conversation in english, please?

Sketches anyone, Price estimation?

Base engine is cheap, coils I believe that I can do myself, but how about the Neodyms??  priceless??



 

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2008, 12:26:22 PM »

Base engine is cheap, coils I believe that I can do myself, but how about the Neodyms??  priceless??


See this thread here on Neo magnets info: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4856.msg102823.html#msg102823

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2008, 01:18:08 PM »
Okay, here is now the full PDF file for the patent for the movie
I uploaded.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get84


With todays Neodymn magnets this motor must be a real good alternative
and normal motors could be converted to it.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 03:39:04 PM »
@Helmut,

Wie sehen sie sich dann die verfuegbare patente die ich gegeben habe in Ruhe an?
Was denken sie dann? Haben sie Over Unity Potenz, so ja, warum, so nein, warum nicht?

Herr Konrad Baecker hat gezeigt wie sein adaptierter DKW motor laeuft, also, was bedeutet das? Overunity mit einem Nordpol oder Suedpol motor?

Kann es wirklich klappen mit Elektromagneten zusammen mit permanentmagneten in der selben Art und Weise als Baecker hat gemacht mit Ferrit Magneten?

Das war in 1986, dasselbe Jahr worin Tschernobyl hat "geklappt". Auf primitivsten Sowjetischen Art und Weise so zu sagen.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 03:39:04 PM »
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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2008, 06:22:06 AM »
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Re: "Locked" current problem solved in Magneto designs
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If you really solved this, then you have just possibly solved the problem of converting existing internal combustion engines to magnetic power, by only removing the piston rings(no compression needed), chamber oil, mounting a permanent magnet on top of the piston, and replacing the heads with electromagnets powered by a magneto! Just a thought!

I have been toying with this idea for quite a while, and I truly think it will work! Think of the implementation savings in years this would afford!
Due to financial and physical limitations, I was not able to produce a prototype, but I did model it in WM2d and it worked there, though with mixed results, probably due to my lack of experience. Please encourage anyone out there to continue this approach. The quote below is a reply to "Honk" from may 10th. I hope it encourages others to investigate this concept!

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17       Mechanical setups / Magnet Motors / Re: Reciprocating Permanent Magnet Motor Concept       on: May 11, 2008, 06:38:29 AM
Quote from: Honk on May 10, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
No magnet motor based on balancing the forces will work. Whether you use shielding or not.
This have been tried over and over in all thinkable combinations over the years.

Hi,

The aspect of this concept that intrigued me was not the balancing basis, but the reciprocating part. I believe that it is possible to convert a standard gasoline engine to a magnetically driven one, cheaply, as outrageous as that sounds. The advantages to such a conversion are obvious! The world is already clogged with autos, and there is simply no time left to replace them all with a new, designed-from-scratch power source. However, if all that was needed was a fairly inexpensive modification of existing engines, it would save billions in precious resources, such as iron, and could eliminate fossil fuel consumption in the land and water transportation and power systems. But time-to-implement would be the biggest savings.

Your obvious question is how? I am working on a model right now, and in the next few days will post it here. Hint: The answer, of course, when it  comes to magnets, is how to overcome all the limitations of previous designs, and the answer is initial power to start the process. We already have it in common use today.

I have been following your posts for a while now, and respect your insight greatly. Hopefully, you will please take a serious look at my proposal.

Until then,

Respectively,

Dact

Good luck1

Dact

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2008, 11:12:54 AM »
Hi stefan
the original ford model T4 should have been capable of running on magnets in acordance to some info about ford beingthretend by the oil companys at the time he declared them if they dont stop threaden him he would send all his T4 customers a set of magnets and then they would need no petroleum at all. thats what Ed ledskalnin has used you can see the remain in the picture where he used a model T engine block with the flywheel still attached and there are the V kind af magnets .
the old magneto from the DKW ( a re engieniered version was the P50 in the DDR) was build similar it worked as a starter and generator with a bloc k from them and all the cylinder piston etc. removed it did run after push up on its own.
I just thought to put ,y experience from the time here .
greetings
walt

Okay, here is now the full PDF file for the patent for the movie
I uploaded.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get84


With todays Neodymn magnets this motor must be a real good alternative
and normal motors could be converted to it.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2008, 11:56:09 AM »
Helmut,
I am afraid English and not German language is here to stay.


Hello all, hello Walter,
This is interesting you come up with Leedskalnin and T-Ford model being also fit to receive magnets. I found Leedskalnin's book 'magnet current'. Veeery interesting to see all his experimenting. Great to see the total absence of mathematics, this is how exciting physics can and should be. We do not need mathematics at all, OK, in the end, after a successfull experiment we could decide to start doing some math.

He also did a little experiment with an iron cored coil surrounded by an iron tube. I wonder how Baecker's configuration can be explained in terms of changing the magnetic path temporarily by electric pulse in the iron cored coil placed transversally into the tube-formed permanent magnet. Also why not so much electric energy is needed to change temporarily the flux's path in order to get the magnet piston in TDC for the power stroke.

You are talking about a picture of Leedskalnin's experimental T-Ford-engine. Can you upload it?
Also do you have any references where I can find more information on this episode of unfriendly exchange between Ford and Oh Lord All Mighty Oil?
Do you have references or info on these kind of Leedskalnin's experiments?

This is the link where I found Leedskalnin's 'magnet current' book, published Rock Gate 1945.

http://www.scribd.com, you have to register though, it's a simple process.

A lot of interesting electronic books. e.g.. 736 pages 5 books of Noam Chomsky on politics.

Are you aware you can find many patents in the patent databases which describe this principle of permanent magnets in the piston and electromagnets in the engine head, engines claimed to be running by themselves without any fuel?

Ceres

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Re: Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2008, 12:02:09 PM »
hi ceres,
yes I got picture ( my own of all the equipment what was left after gouverment raid on ed's property I was there a few times. I will upload them over the weekend.
I have to look for the info on ford.
thanks for the link
greetings
walt

Helmut,
I am afraid English and not German language is here to stay.


Hello all, hello Walter,
This is interesting you come up with Leedskalnin and T-Ford model being also fit to receive magnets. I found Leedskalnin's book 'magnet current'. Veeery interesting to see all his experimenting. Great to see the total absence of mathematics, this is how exciting physics can and should be. We do not need mathematics at all, OK, in the end, after a successfull experiment we could decide to start doing some math.

He also did a little experiment with an iron cored coil surrounded by an iron tube. I wonder how Baecker's configuration can be explained in terms of changing the magnetic path temporarily by electric pulse in the iron cored coil placed transversally into the tube-formed permanent magnet. Also why not so much electric energy is needed to change temporarily the flux's path in order to get the magnet piston in TDC for the power stroke.

You are talking about a picture of Leedskalnin's experimental T-Ford-engine. Can you upload it?
Also do you have any references where I can find more information on this episode of unfriendly exchange between Ford and Oh Lord All Mighty Oil?
Do you have references or info on these kind of Leedskalnin's experiments?

This is the link where I found Leedskalnin's 'magnet current' book, published Rock Gate 1945.

http://www.scribd.com, you have to register though, it's a simple process.

A lot of interesting electronic books. e.g.. 736 pages 5 books of Noam Chomsky on politics.

Are you aware you can find many patents in the patent databases which describe this principle of permanent magnets in the piston and electromagnets in the engine head, engines claimed to be running by themselves without any fuel?

Ceres


 

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