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Author Topic: Johann Bessler information  (Read 32787 times)

Offline fletcher

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Re: Johann Bessler information
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2008, 09:58:19 AM »
Many would agree with you Hans, that A & B are profiles of a Jacob's ladder toy - some also think it represents a chain but that doesn't fit the 'toy' description so well - I would say that they are more symbolic than actual representations - Bessler did indeed mention that he had found a way to climb higher on a Jacob's ladder [in DT I think, IIRC] - the question is what was he showing by including them ?

Well if you close the loop of a Jacob's Ladder you would get a circle or wheel with no beginning or end, so to speak - if Bessler did find OU then it would appear that figuratively he did find a way to climb higher on a Jacob's ladder & A & B might be suggestive of something like the Mt9 series for example, where there are falling levers [the top part of B shows a link or lever falling/swinging imo].

When taken into consideration with the spinning top it could be suggestive of Cf's or it could be just something stand alone simple ?

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Re: Johann Bessler information
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2008, 09:58:19 AM »

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Re: Johann Bessler information
« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2008, 04:19:54 PM »
G'day all,

On further examination of MT 138 (see post 29 this thread) I think I know now what figures A and B represent. I believe this to be the front and side view of the same device, a Jacob's ladder. It is an ancient toy, an example of which was found in King Tut's tomb. Bessler mentions the Jacob's ladder in his writings.

This is how it works:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/764310/jacobs_ladder_optical_illusion_toy/

Any comments?

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You know I look forward to your every post, yes interesting idea, they could be both, the toy on a whole is very interesting, Jacobs ladder's do interesting things and so do scissor jacks and also spinning tops as the heavier side is lifted hmmmm, there certainly is something about this, and if they can be made into a wheel mechanism it must doe something amazing just to look at let alone have perpetual motion...

If the two are different view of the Jacobs ladder then maybe like fletcher said, it could be attached into a circle or should we say linked/chained together having no begging or end, I'M not quite sure though how MT 9 has anything to do with the toy page, could someone explain?

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Re: Johann Bessler information
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2008, 04:21:24 PM »
This is my interpretation of the toy page in a wheel...

How it works: Small weights lift the large weights to the rim at the top of the wheel, then the small weights rest on the axle which  then allows the large weights at the top of take over, once the large weights make it to the bottom of the wheel, the small weights fall from the axle to the bottom of the wheel lifting the large weights to the axle and causing them to rest on the axle...

(http://i25.tinypic.com/348psvp.jpg)

p.s Because the little weights are further from the axle of the large weights, they will lift, the little weights could be attached to long springs to they bend when the stick out on the ascending side...

Like so;
(http://i26.tinypic.com/ve7uiu.jpg)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 04:55:02 PM by Alexioco »

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Re: Johann Bessler information
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