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hartiberlin

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New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« on: May 30, 2008, 03:30:43 AM »
Hi,
please have a look at this machine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfdPryEaKSo


What do you think about this ?
Does anybody know more about it and can translate,
what the old Gentleman is telling us ?

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 03:35:09 AM »
It looks like another take on the two-stage mechanical oscillator.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 03:44:32 AM »
Hmm,
when I try to translate the text in the video information it comes up with this via Babelfish translation:

With this machinery invented from Caspar a movement without no feeding is obtained infinitely.
The movement can be transformed in energy through a simple dynamo.
Incredible, the mechanical job will be able to be transformed in electric power,
under form of continuous current because this machinery never does not stop to move!

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 03:35:46 PM »
Greetings Stefan

 I do believe it stated to stop in the video then a closeup and then it picked up (possibly by a hand push?). I would say it is a monstrosity of a clock pendulum, but it needs a better wind up spring LOL. Truly it looks to me that the inventor feels that it is close enough that he would go ahead and show it before Quinn shows his. Someone announcing a show, competing inventors will always feel the pressure to show theres first. But I say the show when shown should be more than just something moving. Like Bessler, the show better be doing something. On another forum I challenged Quinn to attach his wheel to mine and lets see which one out pulls the other, of course he stated in so many words that there would not be an opening for me to come out, it is only for people with money. LMAO Figures!

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 04:13:54 PM »
The video was posted on youtube 9 months ago.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 04:34:17 PM »
The video was posted on youtube 9 months ago.

Yes, but nobody had posted yet about it,at least I was not aware of it yet.

Does anybody speak Italian language over here and can post a summary
what the inventor said on the video ?

Maybe Roberto can do this ?
Many thanks.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 01:54:12 AM »
Hi Stefan, I speak italian fluently and this is a virtually exact translation of what he is saying:

"These are the two oscillators, this is the balancer that moves them at the same time. This part. This instead is the solenoid that provides the impulse. With an action, here, corresponds (zoom in here), a reaction that is always increasing (zoom in there). And then over time it becomes ?stationary? (= constant). See how it continues to increase, the reaction, that is the impulse continues to produce an always stronger energy at each impulse. Thus at a certain point we see that it detatches from the impulse. Observe above there. See, put it in focus (Yes, yes yes, it?s in focus). And then it becomes stationary (=constant) after a certain period. Increasing at each impulse, of energy. Thus the energy varies until it becomes stationary. See how it detatches, the oscillator from the ?impulser?. You see it? Ecco, and then it remains stationary even for a few hours. And in fact it bumps into the solenoid (which gives the impulse). Thus for an action, I have a reaction that becomes greater with every impulse and then to become stationary (=constant). Here occur the fundamental principles of the dynamic. And the energy within the system varies. And now I stop it.
So you can see that the energy increased with every impulse. To then become ?stationary?, by that I mean ?constant, always the same?. This is the first case of stationary energy? thus the first to discover constant energy.
This is the first impulse and see how it increases progressively in energy.
Here we repeat from before. With each impulse it increases and here it (the impulser arm) detatches and it becomes stationary (constant, same movement) at a certain point. But always greater than the impulse. Thus the impulse gives oscillation to the oscillating system, anti phase (one phase against the other of the oscillators thus the energy increases, and it is untrue that the energy remains the same., as we were saying. Here we see that the energy is amplifying. And that the oscillator has detatched from the impulser. Yet before, it cohered (corresponded) with the impulse. Do you understand, that at one equal impulse the energy of the oscillators out of phase increases until it becomes stationary (constant), the same, but bigger than the impulse that is given. Thus the total energy is greater than the impulse energy. Because it is given by the impulse plus the inertial energy of the two oscillators out of phase.
Apololgies it is very rudimentary but it shows the concept."

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 03:40:54 AM »
Thanks DrWhat
 
 That help clarifies the reactions and the slowdown. It is to show concepts of what he is doing.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 06:04:12 AM »
Thanks DrWhat
 
 That help clarifies the reactions and the slowdown. It is to show concepts of what he is doing.

Hmm,
it seems to oscillacte more forcefull after a while and does not slow down...
Probably the mechanics of the 2 oscillator system good synchronized somehow..

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 09:54:45 PM »
Video looks very promising.
Can somebody explain the principle of the machine?

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 11:33:02 PM »
It's a pendulum that gets tapped at just the right time to keep moving.

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 02:25:31 AM »
Hmm,
it seems to oscillacte more forcefull after a while and does not slow down...
Probably the mechanics of the 2 oscillator system good synchronized somehow..


G'day Stefan,

What the guy is talking about is regenerative feedback (Rueckkopplung). Now we know we can do this with an electronic circuit but even there it requires extra energy. How this could be accomplished with a mechanical system without energy input is an enigma to me. The video does not give anything away other than perhaps the solenoid at the top. But, if that is the case what is powering the solenoid?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: New Italian perpetual motion machine ?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 04:28:56 AM »
Ok guys and Gals,
 I have posted this before and YOU need to try this with what ever you have around the house.... I know there is something to this guys invention .....You can really feel it!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EdV9233_pnQ