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Author Topic: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.  (Read 101537 times)

Bulbz

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Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« on: May 27, 2008, 02:45:34 PM »
The MythBusters did it again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3I9RUCrjoQ


In my honest oppinion.... The Mythbusters duo are a couple of bellends. They even busted the "Spud up the exhaust trick", they did that with a big engine. I actually know that it does work on a 1.4 Renault engine. Coz I spudded a teacher's exhaust pipe when I was at school, I hid and watched as he tried to crank the engine, and it did not start  ;D. And yet, those two prats said that it was a myth.

They sure do look like oil bandits to me  :P.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 05:27:17 PM »
They did a similar thing to the Hamel device.

The one thing that show does well is blowing stuff up.  (Such as a trombone filled with gunpowder, or a cement mixer packed with several hundred pounds of high explosive.)

Bulbz

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 05:33:12 PM »
I don't actually hate them coz they can be comical buggers sometimes. But a lot of the time, they do talk a load of tripe.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 07:54:18 PM »
Maybe Bendini himself shoud post a proof - without confusing us with millions of wires, volt-meters, amp-meters around and in front of the motor? Maybe Mythbusters should have the original Bendinimotor to do tests on?
Guess what: It would probably be busted anyway - that's my guess. It IS a fantacy most (I think all) of these motors - no doubt.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 01:01:51 AM »
Maybe Bendini himself shoud post a proof - without confusing us with millions of wires, volt-meters, amp-meters around and in front of the motor? Maybe Mythbusters should have the original Bendinimotor to do tests on?
Guess what: It would probably be busted anyway - that's my guess. It IS a fantacy most (I think all) of these motors - no doubt.

Vidar


I agree with you that Bedini should simplify how the device is presented, but MythBusters should also do the experiment properely and profssionally without laughing in the inventor' face.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 01:08:18 AM »
Maybe Bendini himself shoud post a proof - without confusing us with millions of wires, volt-meters, amp-meters around and in front of the motor? Maybe Mythbusters should have the original Bendinimotor to do tests on?
Guess what: It would probably be busted anyway - that's my guess. It IS a fantacy most (I think all) of these motors - no doubt.

Vidar

He should post jackshit. If you were really looking for free energy you would have a motor by now in your basement. What you are looking for is the same old story of companies ripping you off for a bad readly built machine that rips your ass and wallet apart.

Bulbz

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 01:19:30 AM »
I like the idea of the bedini motor, but never fully understood exactly how it works.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 01:40:58 AM »
I love the show and  while they may fail to cover every angle the mythbusters are pretty thorough with there testing...

I am glad to see these things are being tested on this TV show and think more OU stuff should be on this show... They seem to hate gas saving and energy expiraments though... But it is what people wanna see...

I have seen them wrong before and they do take advice from people on there forum if you post it... or mail however it works the are only two guys though with a network limited budget not even they have the time to test every possible combination.

But they have made some fairly interesting discoveries trying to bust myths as well... Expirements that even seemed to supprise them ...

Enjoy

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 02:10:53 AM »
Problem with Mythbusters is the masses of people who watch them have no clue how things work and so they believe the shit they are being told and sold on that show, because "hey it's on TV so it must be true, right?" , "It's Discovery channel, it's real science, man!" ... just laughable.

Those are (the above mentioned masses) the peddlers of the popularistic culture, wannabe intellectual kinds who catch on buzz words and then repeat them like parrots among their friends to sound intelligent, important, or to simply be in the spotlight for a moment.

I propose a new show called "Mythbusters Busters", that will debunk the debunkers because they are obviously not doing an objective job at that. Then again the TV was never about truth to begin with, not in today's day and age where 75% of programming is a "video news release" of some kind, paid by the corporate fascists selling us some shit or just maintaining their monopoly.

Planet Earth is the only planet where humans sell their own kind for petty profit and short lived spot in the light (read: to hold some power over) because ultimately with death they lose that power, but then again there are other suckers left to reign over...

Back to Bedini, as he said, they (Mythbusters) did not replicate the original experiment exactly and therefore did not "bust" anything. There was no science in what they have done even with two MIT guys there. When they replicate exactly as Bedini made it and it does not work they can call it "busted". Thing is, others have replicated it and it appears to work so not so sure about "busting" that one.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 02:16:28 AM »
I propose a new show called "Mythbusters Busters", that will debunk the debunkers because they are obviously not doing an objective job at that. Then again the TV was never about truth to begin with, not in today's day and age where 75% of programming is a "video news release" of some kind, paid by the corporate fascists selling us some shit or just maintaining their monopoly.

Well, you can start.  Why don't you show us an overunity Bedini motor?

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 02:30:59 AM »
Well, you can start.  Why don't you show us an overunity Bedini motor?

Because most of you armchair scientists want something out of nothing and there's no such thing. Bedini's systems work because the energy is extracted and then converted/stored. As the saying goes you have to invest some money to get money back and so is the case with the energy.

What Mythbusters "busted" was not what Bedini designed, built and others have replicated period. Whether it is an "overunity" machine or not is irrelevant in this argument - the fact that Mythbusters did not follow the proper "scientific" protocol in replication is. That alone in my eyes is enough to put them into a category of lackeys of the corporate fascist interests and not honest debunkers of crazy claims as they portray themselves.

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 02:37:11 AM »
Because most of you armchair scientists want something out of nothing and there's no such thing. Bedini's systems work because the energy is extracted and then converted/stored. As the saying goes you have to invest some money to get money back and so is the case with the energy.

What Mythbusters "busted" was not what Bedini designed, built and others have replicated period. Whether it is an "overunity" machine or not is irrelevant in this argument - the fact that Mythbusters did not follow the proper "scientific" protocol in replication is. That alone in my eyes is enough to put them into a category of lackeys of the corporate fascist interests and not honest debunkers of crazy claims as they portray themselves.


You are quite right, you have to invest some money to get money back and so is the case with the energy. In this case, you can live off the interest.  ;)

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 02:56:29 AM »
The MythBusters did it again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3I9RUCrjoQ


In my honest oppinion.... The Mythbusters duo are a couple of bellends. They even busted the "Spud up the exhaust trick", they did that with a big engine. I actually know that it does work on a 1.4 Renault engine. Coz I spudded a teacher's exhaust pipe when I was at school, I hid and watched as he tried to crank the engine, and it did not start  ;D. And yet, those two prats said that it was a myth.

They sure do look like oil bandits to me  :P.

For the peoples that know what is a Bedini motor, what they have replicated is just not the Bedini motor, the coils are wrong, rotor is wrong, everything is wrong.

Its more a pulse motor what they have accomplish nothing more.

utilitarian

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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 02:56:58 AM »
Because most of you armchair scientists want something out of nothing and there's no such thing. Bedini's systems work because the energy is extracted and then converted/stored. As the saying goes you have to invest some money to get money back and so is the case with the energy.

What Mythbusters "busted" was not what Bedini designed, built and others have replicated period. Whether it is an "overunity" machine or not is irrelevant in this argument - the fact that Mythbusters did not follow the proper "scientific" protocol in replication is. That alone in my eyes is enough to put them into a category of lackeys of the corporate fascist interests and not honest debunkers of crazy claims as they portray themselves.

The Mythbusters guys are pretty far from fascist.  Sure, they have made mistakes, but the show is good natured, and most of the myths that are busted have nothing to do with corporate interests.  Examples:

Shooting a bullet through another sniper's scope
Being killed by falling bullets
Getting sucked into a toilet
How many times can you fold a piece of paper?
Diet coke and mentos
Sliding down a sail by using a knife to cut the sail on the way down

How do you get fascist out of this?  They poopoo one little darling of the free energy community, and now they are fascist?  Come on!

And as far as what Bedini designed, I am curious, is there is single practical application of the Bedini motor that is actually used commercially?  If not, maybe the guys are not far from wrong.  The Bedini motor runs, but it doesn't do anything useful, so screw it, it may as well be busted.



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Re: Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 03:14:01 AM »
utilitarian,

If you wish to use my words, please use them in context and exactly quoted, otherwise this discussion is over.

I said "lackeys of the corporate fascists"...

The guys might be good natured (although I take that with a grain of salt) but they are far from competent or unbiased which is evident from the Bedini fiasco. They have obviously approached the issue with already determined outcome which is clear from the intro to the segment where one of them (is it Adam?) is talking about the "Holy Grail of free energy" while other (Jaime?) remains the adamant skeptic.

It is just sad how scripted the whole thing was and bluntly obvious that the experiment would fail because they did not replicate it to the letter, missing to include certain parts/components, etc. That is NOT scientific and claiming that they are is hypocrisy, whether you like it not. Mythbusters might have (or not) "busted" other things successfully, but having failed to be truly scientific with Bedini one indicates to me that all the other claims they have "busted" should be re-examined as well.

In any case, what I'm talking about are facts, and it is all there recorded for posterity and now available on YouTube to be examined. Perhaps some day we'll see a rebuttal although I am not holding my breath...