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Title: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on May 21, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
Hi to all.
After experimentation and theoretical work, I found a general scheme of the two disk machines.
Please pay attention, this thing is dangerous.

http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/doublescheme.html

F_dyne
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on November 12, 2008, 04:27:11 PM
Hi to all.

Doing my calculations and experiments, I found some flaws in my theory just as it was.
In practice, a coil is missing.
Updates are ready on bottom page, here:

http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testatpu.html

F_dyne
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on November 19, 2008, 05:40:20 AM
You will like this for sure... good luck :)
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/doublescheme2.html

F_dyne
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: leo48 on November 24, 2008, 01:43:19 PM
I have no doubt that this scheme already know
but if you can talk about it.
(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1803/391d1213349773tschemagejc2.jpg) (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)
hello
leo48
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: TinselKoala on November 24, 2008, 05:05:13 PM
I've been looking at the Testatika for some time.
Here's a couple clips of one of my research testbeds, a Bonetti machine that certainly produces the high voltage at sufficient current. Now I need to find some scheme that makes sense for the rest of the project.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGFqkXjwZc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGFqkXjwZc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir9RIsXzmzY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir9RIsXzmzY)
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: ramset on November 24, 2008, 05:41:33 PM
Tinselkoala  Very fine build !!
  Thank you for sharing your research
        Chet
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: Steven Dufresne on November 24, 2008, 06:12:53 PM
@TinselKoala,
Nice work! Have you measured the torque on your tesla motor of the second video? Is it easy to stop with a stick (probably don't want to get your finger in there)? Also, interesting color effect on the ball-chains. Is that just the camera or is that corona?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: TinselKoala on November 24, 2008, 07:24:35 PM
Thanks, all.
The Tesla Corona Motor / Turbine doesn't have a great deal of torque from standstill; but it will self-start, even though I helped it along in the video. There is a lot of inertia from the stacked acrylic disks so when it's running at speed it does store a bit of rotational energy--I wouldn't want to stick anything in there!
The little fan on the front adds some load and does push the air when it's going fast.
The color on the ball chains is just a camera effect, I think. I use the ball chains a lot in my electrostatic work; they are efficient conductors of EHV (extreme high voltage, above 100 kV) and don't bleed corona like smaller diameter wires would do--they act like thick cylinders, in other words, but are more flexible than thick wires would be.
The distribution of corona on and between the disks of this machine is very interesting. I'll try to do a video in the dark, if I can figure out the camera's settings. It doesn't correspond, as far as I can see, to Baumann's idea that one disk is "Cloud" and the other "Earth". Rather, the left and right halves of the machine have the 2 different characters.
This machine uses non-contact corona brushes for the neutral structures and the output pickups, hence the need for a little "touch" to get it started. I am experimenting with brushes made of carbon-fiber rovings to replace these brushes, that will actually contact the disk surfaces, and I think this will make the machine self-starting.
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on November 24, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
I have no doubt that this scheme already know
but if you can talk about it.
(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1803/391d1213349773tschemagejc2.jpg) (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)
hello
leo48

Hi leo48,

I know that scheme, but I think that is not correct.
The 'diode' for sure is not made like that.
There are only two poles on real 3kw Testatika 'diode'.
You can verify that looking very well at pictures and videos of the real Testatika.
And, if you look very well at pictures and videos, you'll see that my scheme is not so far from the real 3kw testatika scheme (my component and mechatronic interpretation could be wrong, though).

F_dyne
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: TinselKoala on December 05, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
I cleaned up the testbed and fired it up to make a picture of the corona distribution.
This photo is 15 seconds at f/2.8  .
The left sphere is 5.5 inches (140 mm) in diameter.
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: pese on December 05, 2008, 08:10:49 PM
Hi to all.
After experimentation and theoretical work, I found a general scheme of the two disk machines.
Please pay attention, this thing is dangerous.

http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/doublescheme.html

F_dyne
NEVER dangerouse !!
because
NEVER working
Never phsical
Never theoretical

Pese
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on December 06, 2008, 02:13:24 AM
NEVER dangerouse !!
because
NEVER working
Never phsical
Never theoretical

Pese


That's an old sceme.
Have you seen tis new one insted?
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/doublescheme2.html
SO maibe you have some othe interesting scheme?

F_dyne
Title: Re: Double disk machines scheme
Post by: f_dyne on December 06, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Hello to all,
here I made a slightly new scheme, with a new (I think...)
interpretation for the disks:
frequency multipliers.
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/doublescheme3.html

F_dyne