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Offline Alexioco

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Self Holding Weight
« on: May 20, 2008, 10:14:30 PM »
I came up with a simple design on how to put a weight on a seesaw and yet the seesaw does not lower as if the weight has become weightless...

A cord is attached to the seesaw which goes up and around a pulley, comes back down and connects to the weight, the weight is then placed on the seesaw and this is what happens.

Because the weight is pulling the seesaw up via the pulley, at the sametime the weight is resting on the seesaw preventing the seesaw from rising it results in the weight holding itself up on the seesaw, you might say it is perpetually holding itself up because the weight wants to push the seesaw down which pulls the seesaw up...

If this was looked at, you might make it so when it does this, a tiny bit of presure on the other end of the seesaw will lift the heavy weight...

Hope you like it...


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Self Holding Weight
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Offline broli

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 10:52:19 PM »
To what is the pulley attached?

Offline fletcher

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 11:01:13 PM »
This is called "boot strapping " Alex - where, if you reach down & grab your shoes laces & continually tug upwards on them you can levitate - I think that is how David Blaine does it - his hands are in his pockets pulling on extra long shoe laces - if you pull one side harder than the other you can go in circles  ;)

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 11:01:13 PM »
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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 11:07:51 PM »
Hi Alex,
can you show a real picture of it ?

Or is this a joke ?

Well, I am off to simulate this in WM2D.
What are the weight ratios of the See-Saw versus the ball and the spring ?

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 11:12:16 PM »
Ahh,
I just see, there is a fixed rod there where the pulley goes over it.
Yes, the forces should be okay then.
It is, as if there is only one thread, which fixes the see saw to the upper rod.

Now, what is interesting.
Let the weight just go like a pendulum and the see-saw will
go up and down,
so you can lift another weight on the other side of the see-saw.

Maybe this could be used for a gravity wheel ?
Hmm...have to ponder about this.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 04:41:10 AM by hartiberlin »

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Offline Dgraphic911

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 11:31:10 PM »
This is an awesome thread, i'm laughing my ass off right now. Sometimes coming here i feel like i just walked into the back room of NASA and found them picking their nose.


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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2008, 12:22:52 AM »
Ahh,
I just see, there is a pixed point, there where the pulley goes over it.
Yes, the forces should be okay then.
It is, as if there is only one thread, which fixes the see saw to the upper rod.

Now, what is interesting.
Let the weight just go like a pendulum and the see-saw will
go up and down,
so you can lift another weight on the other side of the see-saw.

Maybe this could be used for a gravity wheel ?
Hmm...have to ponder about this.

Regards, Stefan.

Milkovic oscillator?
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=AulAeyAjtzk&feature=related



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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 01:54:57 AM »
Hay Oak

 You need to look at that video one more time and look at the blue tarp in the background. I see a face and it doesn't move with the tarp.  8)

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 02:37:47 AM »
This is an awesome thread, i'm laughing my ass off right now. Sometimes coming here i feel like i just walked into the back room of NASA and found them picking their nose.

If your laughing now, try this:  If you have any doubts as to whether gravity,  known as a conservative force has potential  extractable energy try the following.

Stand in front of your computer desk which most average approximately 27" high,  place the arch of your left foot on the edge of the desk. Now place the right one there in the same manner.  When your butt hits the floor you will soon realize that gravity has potential.   :o

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Re: Self Holding Weight
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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 02:44:16 AM »
Stefan,

Don't ponder to long!  That pulley the rope is going through in rigging terms is called a "Snatch Block" it is called that for a reason.  ;D

Offline Alexioco

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2008, 01:42:43 PM »
Ahh,
I just see, there is a fixed rod there where the pulley goes over it.
Yes, the forces should be okay then.
It is, as if there is only one thread, which fixes the see saw to the upper rod.

Now, what is interesting.
Let the weight just go like a pendulum and the see-saw will
go up and down,
so you can lift another weight on the other side of the see-saw.

Maybe this could be used for a gravity wheel ?
Hmm...have to ponder about this.

Regards, Stefan.

I made one and it works, soon as the weight slips off the seesaw the seesaw is flung upwards :D

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Offline Dgraphic911

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2008, 02:45:44 PM »
Thanks ralph,

I actually fell, kept falling and saved some of the impact energy in my ass. thus requiring less and less energy every time i fell. I'm on the 100th time and i feel it getting much easier to reset my mechanism. My only question would be how do i measure my impact energy to see how much of it is OU and can be calculated back into the formula. Also should i use AC or DC measurements.


I tried that bootstrap propulsion also and keep hitting the roof of the office, ? now what.
 ;D

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Re: Self Holding Weight
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2008, 04:39:10 PM »
Thanks ralph,

I actually fell, kept falling and saved some of the impact energy in my ass. thus requiring less and less energy every time i fell. I'm on the 100th time and i feel it getting much easier to reset my mechanism. My only question would be how do i measure my impact energy to see how much of it is OU and can be calculated back into the formula. Also should i use AC or DC measurements.


I tried that bootstrap propulsion also and keep hitting the roof of the office, ? now what.
 ;D


haha no try this, while using your "mechanism" try jumping out of the office window, landing on a trampoline with your butt and measure how much higher you go than the window you jumped from, then you can measure how much more output there is than input... and of course, when you land on the trampoline again you will keep getting higher and higher, the output will be phenomenal :D

 

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