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### Author Topic: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?  (Read 343017 times)

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 06:07:11 AM »
Hello all,

@GK

Im "happy" that you had a runaway but in the meantime a learned something:

A lot of "toroidal setups" can give you a runaway.

When I had my first, there was a current + voltage runaway and a pulsing at 5 - 10Hz. The signals, square waves at around 5 - 10V and from the power supply 12V/ 2 - 3A.

My last runaway was with sine waves at over 300V/less then 1A. I only saw fractions of a sine waves on my scope and my profi made PS is blown. The current, as said in miliamperes.

It seems that we can achieve 2 sorts of runaways: 1 with voltage and 1 with current + voltage.

With my newest coils I see that we can have a runaway with only current!! At some frequency mixes I see the voltage from my power supply is constant, 24V , but the current want to rise to "heaven".

Otto

#### pauldude000

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 02:41:04 PM »
@Mannix

He is referring to my results.

Pure sine @ approx 4Mhz, and I can get a little over 120V pretty much anytime now, with the highest measured on scope at 240V. However, current at this point is diddly. Connecting a load  (110 fridge light bulb) drops the voltage to around 25V on my current build, instead of just 2V like the last.

I know..... WhoopDeeDooo...

However, remember that I am only driving this with the output of a B&K function generator directly, using the "high" output  (15V P to P instead of 5V.... No secondary power source, No mosfets.) Not bad if you ask me considering the power supplied.

Paul Andrulis

#### Drossen

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 04:17:23 PM »

Many combustion engines are less than 30% efficient.  Even the really high performance engines, that are commercially available, are a little over 40% efficient.  However, I know of a two cycle engine which is much more efficient, called the Bourke-Cycle Engine.  Check out http://www.bourke-engine.com/index1.htm for more information.  Several years ago, I bought the documents from them, and in those documents were some measurements which suggest that the Bourke-Cycle Engine is just under 83% efficient.  I lost all the documents, except the blueprints for building the engine, so I am unable to provide the exact measurement values.  However, on the specifications posted on the website, the 30 cubic inch version consumes less than 1/4 pounds of fuel per horse power hour, which is less than 6.25 pounds of fuel at 25 hp/h.  One gallon of gasoline is approximately 6.5 pounds.  This will not get you the 3.5 hours on one gallon of gas at 25 hp, but it will at 7.4 hp.  Keep in mind that the 30 cubic inch version was able to give about 38 hp at 5,000 rpm and 114 hp at 15,000 rpm, which means it isn't just a 25 hp engine, unless you limit the engine to 3289 rpm.  I don't know of any other combustion engines more efficient than this one, so I would tend to agree that the claim of running at 25 hp for 3.5 hours, on one gallon of gas, is a bit of an exaggeration.  However, this does not mean that the TPU is fake, it just means that SM over exaggerates, or adds extra fluff to catch people's attention.  We should always be careful about what we take as fact.  However, you should not discount something until you have tested it, as it is through experimentation and testing that the real truth will be found.

Drossen

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 07:50:03 PM »
Hello all,

Im posting here because I love Lindsays fraud.

1.Get 3 TVs deflection coils
2. wrap 20 turns bifilar of copper wire in horizontal over such a core from this deflection unit AND in the same time over a 3 turns lamp wire that is in the horizontal driection.
3. pulse this f...g coils and say what you see
4. wrap the other 2 cores and connect them.

Try to connect the coils like in the ECD. My God!! Use a little your imagination!! I needed only 10 minutes for my 1. coil and in 30 minutes I made 2 of such coils and now I have....

Otto

PS: Im waiting for the real builders.

#### wattsup

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 08:50:02 PM »
@otto

By deflection coil do you mean the "yoke". I took a yoke off of a computer monitor a few days ago and just set it aside for future stuff. There was also the degausing coil. lol Can it be done with only one?

#### Feynman

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2008, 09:29:06 PM »
Quote
Follow you dreams first and the rest will follow. The builders, who are dog tired, know of this skill. It is what makes men out of dreamers. The rest are followers. That is why the barking at the words. Alot of people in the boat cry out about the storm. The adventurer jumps out of the boat and walks on water.

?But there is suffering in life, and there are defeats. No one can avoid them. But it's better to lose some of the battles in the struggles for your dreams than to be defeated without ever knowing what you're fighting for.?
-Paulo Coelho

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2008, 10:32:01 PM »
Hello all,

@wattsup

yes, I mean a yoke. Sorry my English....not from the best "house".

The best is a yoke from an old TV. I mean, you need 3 cores. I forgot to mention that the original coils have to be removed and wound new coils. Its really a joke to build this. Only 20 - 30 turns in a bifilar way.

Sounds this familiar?? How many turns can we see in the open TPU?? Did we see bifilar coils?? Whats the height of a 6" TPU?? And the height of my yoke cores??? And, and , and....

Comp. monitor? I dont think so because the screen of a PC is much smaller then from a TV. Please. a TV yoke. You can get it for free and then you need a few minutes for your 1. control coil. With even 1 control coil you will see.....and 2 frequencies.

I forgot to mention that in the TPU is the main "action" INSIDE the TPU. This means that the collector is wound INSIDE the cores.

The collectors have to "follow" the form of the core. So, we get 3 half circles, to say so, when the TPU is finished. This 3 half circles are OK. They have "special" properties for fast particles. Better not to discuss my crazy theories.

If and when you have done it connect a 100W bulb as a load and tell us what you see.

Otto

#### Mannix

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2008, 05:50:39 AM »
Otto,
please can you post a picture and details  if you have time..
an inertia experiment

It might be a safe experiment for people ...do you think?

Lindsay

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2008, 06:16:02 AM »
Hello all,

@Lindsay

in a day or 2 I will post pictures, no problem.

@All

now I want to tell people how I started my fun:

A few months ago I grabbed 3 yokes from old TVs. In the first moment as I had them in my fingers I wanted to pulse this coils and I did it but with no success.

2 days ago I wanted to pulse this coils again and so I removed the coils with the cores from the plastic. With only the 2 cores with the original windings in my hands I connected them in series and on top of this 2 cores I had a lamp wire also connected with my new "controls". Of course, a 100W bulb as a load.

To be short, I saw a weak glowing, hard to see, of my bulb and said "thats it"!!!!
How did I knew "thats it"??
1. only 2 cores
2.muuuuuuch to long collector wires wound in layers, no kicks, only square waves, pulsed with SS oscillators
3. collectors only laying on top of the pulsed cores

Not to mention, my inner feeling.

About my inner feeling I wrote a lot of times and I have a little story about it but better for me to be quiet because people would think that Im crasier then Im really,ha,ha.

From now on I will post here because I love this thread!

People, grab your cores from old TVs.

Otto

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2008, 08:17:41 AM »
Hello all,

sorry for asking but how to compress a picture so I can post it?? Sorry again, Im not good with PCs.

Otto

#### Mannix

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2008, 09:55:22 AM »
Otto

if you email it to me i will post (shrunk)it in 14 hours time

#### otto

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2008, 10:01:06 AM »
Hello,

Thank you very much.

Otto

#### gyulasun

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2008, 10:47:06 AM »
Hello all,

sorry for asking but how to compress a picture so I can post it?? Sorry again, Im not good with PCs.

Otto

Hi Otto,

You can upload files here up to 5MB of size at a time on this Forum, see this link:
(with file extensions like zip, rar, doc, jpg, gif, png, avi, mov, mpg, mpeg, qt, swf, pdf, odt, rm, ra, wm2d)

After upload you can copy and paste the created link to your pictures into a message here.

rgds,  Gyula

#### Earl

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 12:05:17 PM »
Otto,

if your photos are 6, 7, or 8 MB you can upload them to

http://imageshack.us/

I have done this and left the email blank with nothing.
Browse to the photo and upload it.  Very simple.

VERY IMPORTANT

copy and paste the URL of your photo(s) once they are uploaded to a local file so you have a record of it.  Be patient, it may take some time for the upload.  Then let us know the URL.

Regards, Earl

#### turbo

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##### Re: Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2008, 07:03:10 PM »
Hello all,

People, grab your cores from old TVs.

Otto

The design of the yoke's changed over the years due to problems with them radiating extreme low frequencies....
The Yoke's used in early color television had a diffrent configuration then the currently used yoke's so make sure you grab the right ones.

M.