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FreeEnergy

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WATER MOTOR
« on: May 20, 2008, 02:21:39 AM »
(http://www.overunity.com/tp-images/Image/watermotor.gif)
http://www.overunity.com/watermotor/index.htm

Hi all,
could this run my house if it was made bigger and use better materials?
did anyone buy a kit yet? if so any feed back?

thanks



peace



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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 02:25:01 AM »
Well, it is working with Osmosis,
but it could be definately scaled up.

Dieter is already working on a bigger modell.

Stay tuned.

The paper version kit is a really nice scientific toy
and I can only recommend it.

Regards,Stefan.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 02:34:33 AM »
Dieter / or anyone else who knows,

I went to check it out this morning. The website did not say the form it will appear if I download. Will I be buying a pdf?

I wanted to know first.  ;)

thank you

Jeanna

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 03:56:23 PM »
Well, it is working with Osmosis,
but it could be definately scaled up.

...and it has been:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterwheel

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 04:07:07 PM »
Dieter / or anyone else who knows,

I went to check it out this morning. The website did not say the form it will appear if I download. Will I be buying a pdf?

I wanted to know first.  ;)

thank you

Jeanna

I think it is in JPEG format.
So it is universally printable with all programs.

I will order myself one today and have a look.
It is really cheap,
only 10 US$ or 7 Euros.
It is a nice toy for your desktop
to make other people say:
 WOW,what is this? !
;)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2008, 04:54:09 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 04:11:09 PM »
...and it has been:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterwheel

No, this is not a normal waterwheel !

It works on Osmosis basis.
You do not need a river or running water.

It works more on theprinciple of the drinking bird:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird
but in a constant rotating mode,
which has some opportunity to rotate a load.

it is also gravity assited as the flappers move in and out, so the weight
is shifted, which makes this wheel unblanced and it moves on..

More or less like a Bessler wheel,
but the cause it water evaporation.
It only needs very low quantities of water.
Typically 1 Liter ( a qarter gallon) of water
for a few weeks of contineous operation.

Go for it and build yourself one out of this
paper model.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 04:23:30 PM »
Does anyone know if this is similar to what Burt Rutan(the famous aircraft/spacecraft designer) has in his house?  it apparently has been running since he built it, but he says not perpetual, cause you have to add water periodicaly as it evaporates.  in the pics I have seen it looks to be made of plexi glass.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 04:49:48 PM »
Does anyone know if this is similar to what Burt Rutan(the famous aircraft/spacecraft designer) has in his house?  it apparently has been running since he built it, but he says not perpetual, cause you have to add water periodicaly as it evaporates.  in the pics I have seen it looks to be made of plexi glass.

Do you have some pics of this, so I can have a look ?

I just also bought the above water motor plans
and it is easy to pay via PayPal for instance
or other Payment options
and you will immediately get a 6 Mbytes
ZIP file for download.

It contains a HTML
index.html file
with tons of pictures
as the description
and some
high resolution JPEG pictures
to be printed out.

You can for instance use the
the free very nice IrfanView
program to print this to your needs
and size:
www.irfanview.com

or just use the installed
Windows Paint program,
which is under
Start/Programs/Accessories/Paint
so you do not need to install anything.

Or just drag and drop the JPEG files
into your IE or Firefox browser and print it out from
there..
Then you only need a scissoir and cut the paper out and
glue it together.
Makes a nice toy and you can build it together with your kids,
so they can learn it too...
Better than to watch TV all the time.... ;D

Hope this helps.
BTW, there are nice colored Egyptian and Celtic style
color maping styles available also, so if ou have a color printer,
it will look nicely from the start...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 06:31:23 PM »
Do you have some pics of this, so I can have a look ?

I just also bought the above water motor plans
and it is easy to pay via PayPal for instance
or other Payment options
and you will immediately get a 6 Mbytes
ZIP file for download.

It contains a HTML
index.html file
with tons of pictures
as the description
and some
high resolution JPEG pictures
to be printed out.

You can for instance use the
the free very nice IrfanView
program to print this to your needs
and size:
www.irfanview.com

or just use the installed
Windows Paint program,
which is under
Start/Programs/Accessories/Paint
so you do not need to install anything.

Or just drag and drop the JPEG files
into your IE or Firefox browser and print it out from
there..
Then you only need a scissoir and cut the paper out and
glue it together.
Makes a nice toy and you can build it together with your kids,
so they can learn it too...
Better than to watch TV all the time.... ;D

Hope this helps.
BTW, there are nice colored Egyptian and Celtic style
color maping styles available also, so if ou have a color printer,
it will look nicely from the start...

Regards, Stefan.

these are the pics of Burt Rutans wheel, it looks more like some kind of overbalance wheel, but uses water.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 01:55:00 PM »
I'm not sure, as the photo is not really clear, but do you think that this is just using controlled leaks into the next chamber, or is there some other method?  I don't see anything other than plexi. no "wicking" material?

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2008, 05:24:34 AM »
Is there anywhere a video of this Burt Rutans wheel ?

The Dieter Marfurt Water motor works differently.
It displaces the weights at the rim so the different levers due to gravity can
propell it.
The main effect is osmosis.

Here is a simular youtube movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auQjZwkia00

There you can see the principle.

But when you buy the Kit from:

http://www.overunity.com/watermotor/index.htm

you get a ready to print unit which is
very easy to build due to the good instructions
and the easy templates that come with it.

Surely this principle could be scaled up for higher output !
Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2008, 06:04:01 AM »
Here is another movie,
that shows the basic effect:

http://heatengine.uw.hu/film3.wmv

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2008, 04:38:00 PM »
Sorry, no video that I have ever seen.  only this one photo, and witness acounts that it turns continuosly.  Burt has to add water as it evaporates, however he claims if it was sealed in a box, it would take care of that by it's self, by condensation.  it sits in his front entry of his house.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2008, 04:42:43 PM »
It was impossible for me to order the water motor plans with PayPal (even my PayPal works perfect with any other order). Do anybody have a contact of the seller (or maybe he has a username here, on overunity.com?), as I want to pay directly if it's possible? Please help.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2008, 04:10:31 PM »
Sorry to have jumped to conclusions about the waterwheel. (See my post above).

But can't anyone simply explain how it works without resorting to videos?

Paul.