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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:22 AM »
Hey guys, I just purchased plans for the motor a few days ago. I am not very happy because none of the image files would open and all of the html links where the assembly instructions could supposeably be found are dead!! So now i'm out 20 bucks and have nothing in return. Total crap. I'm not very happy about this. Must be another free energy scam, imagine  that. I hope i'm wrong about this but right now I don't know what I can do if the links are dead and the template image files can't be viewed.

You musthave made something wrong.

Didn?t you download the complete ZIP archive file ?

Inside the ZIP archive there are also the template files.
Just try to unpack it all again with the latest WINZIP
or WinRAR version.

Maybe your download did break and you have not downloaded
the whole ZIP file ?

Please try again the download.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:22 AM »

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2008, 03:51:58 PM »
ok, I got the image files to open but in order to open them, I had to copy them to another folder, not sure why that helped. But the html links that contain the assembly instructions are all still dead. And why is this thread dead anyways? Isn't anybody building this thing?? Isn't this the free energy we have all been looking for? Why has everybody just moved on??

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2008, 12:33:15 PM »
ok, I got the image files to open but in order to open them, I had to copy them to another folder, not sure why that helped. But the html links that contain the assembly instructions are all still dead. And why is this thread dead anyways? Isn't anybody building this thing?? Isn't this the free energy we have all been looking for? Why has everybody just moved on??


Please send the email-receipt of your sale
to:
hanshuber008@yahoo.com

and request a new file.

He will send you the ZIP file again.

Please post in the forum in the same thread,
when the problem has been solved.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2008, 12:33:15 PM »
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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2008, 03:53:50 PM »
I will, thanks Stefan

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2008, 02:41:49 AM »
Hey guys, just wanted to let everybody know that due to the assistance that I recieved from the seller of the file that everything works fine now and construction will begin within the next two weeks!! 

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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2008, 02:41:49 AM »
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Offline dieter

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2008, 03:00:42 AM »
Haha, seems like all of you were too lazy to complete the model then !?! Well, it takes a couple of hours.

The truth is:  Yes, it works, and No, it will not power your car or house, simply because the energy we
gather is tiny, just enough to turn the wheel slowly, but continously.

Although the efficiency is low, in the end of the day the energy balance is positive, we truey obtained
mechanical energy from evaporating water. And water is evaporating every day, on all seas and so on.
So this sort of energy is free.

In this device water evaporates, is then picked up by wood fibres (causing mechanical action!), and then evaporates again, all
within seconds.So the reactive parts are some kind of humidity buffers.

As mentioned in the Documentation, this method has serious potential, but a hightech synthetic material should be designed,
that allows to pick up and release humidity much quicker than natural wood fibres.

The force of the machine is taken from the tendency of some fibres to expand and contract when exposed to various levels of humidity.
This very force is then used to move the reactors between zones of various humidity levels, thus set it in "eternal" motion.
The ancient egyptians may have used the same energy to split rocks when they put sheets of wood into holes in the rocks and then
put water onto the sheets, so they expanded and finally split the rocks.

By now the evaporation part (uses capilares) becomes partially dry after a few days and the user has to re-wet it, so this part may be
optimized. But this part is old tech anyway. The Rotor at the other hand, that is the heart of this design, may run for weeks without problems.

If this model is built correctly (and I offer my assistance in case of problems), then it's an amazing little thing on your desk or in your
classroom. A bit like the drinking bird, but IMHO much more spectacular, since its motion is HIGHLY obvious.

When I finished this design and I saw it actually worked, I felt like totally euphorised for several days, only from watching it.
Needsless to say I've spent 100s of hours to build many prototypes and to test lots of materials etc. until I came up with this design.

Hopefully I will soon make a new video of it, including a bit more information. Thanks to all those who have purchased. You just help me to
continue my research, since I don't get any other support or financial backup.

Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2008, 09:23:06 AM »
Haha, seems like all of you were too lazy to complete the model then !?! Well, it takes a couple of hours.

The truth is:  Yes, it works, and No, it will not power your car or house, simply because the energy we
gather is tiny, just enough to turn the wheel slowly, but continously.

Although the efficiency is low, in the end of the day the energy balance is positive, we truey obtained
mechanical energy from evaporating water. And water is evaporating every day, on all seas and so on.
So this sort of energy is free.

In this device water evaporates, is then picked up by wood fibres (causing mechanical action!), and then evaporates again, all
within seconds.So the reactive parts are some kind of humidity buffers.

As mentioned in the Documentation, this method has serious potential, but a hightech synthetic material should be designed,
that allows to pick up and release humidity much quicker than natural wood fibres.

The force of the machine is taken from the tendency of some fibres to expand and contract when exposed to various levels of humidity.
This very force is then used to move the reactors between zones of various humidity levels, thus set it in "eternal" motion.
The ancient egyptians may have used the same energy to split rocks when they put sheets of wood into holes in the rocks and then
put water onto the sheets, so they expanded and finally split the rocks.

By now the evaporation part (uses capilares) becomes partially dry after a few days and the user has to re-wet it, so this part may be
optimized. But this part is old tech anyway. The Rotor at the other hand, that is the heart of this design, may run for weeks without problems.

If this model is built correctly (and I offer my assistance in case of problems), then it's an amazing little thing on your desk or in your
classroom. A bit like the drinking bird, but IMHO much more spectacular, since its motion is HIGHLY obvious.

When I finished this design and I saw it actually worked, I felt like totally euphorised for several days, only from watching it.
Needsless to say I've spent 100s of hours to build many prototypes and to test lots of materials etc. until I came up with this design.

Hopefully I will soon make a new video of it, including a bit more information. Thanks to all those who have purchased. You just help me to
continue my research, since I don't get any other support or financial backup.

welcome to overunity.com

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2008, 09:23:06 AM »
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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2008, 05:11:39 AM »
Haha, seems like all of you were too lazy to complete the model then !?! Well, it takes a couple of hours.

The truth is:  Yes, it works, and No, it will not power your car or house, simply because the energy we
gather is tiny, just enough to turn the wheel slowly, but continously.

Although the efficiency is low, in the end of the day the energy balance is positive, we truey obtained
mechanical energy from evaporating water. And water is evaporating every day, on all seas and so on.
So this sort of energy is free.

In this device water evaporates, is then picked up by wood fibres (causing mechanical action!), and then evaporates again, all
within seconds.So the reactive parts are some kind of humidity buffers.

As mentioned in the Documentation, this method has serious potential, but a hightech synthetic material should be designed,
that allows to pick up and release humidity much quicker than natural wood fibres.

The force of the machine is taken from the tendency of some fibres to expand and contract when exposed to various levels of humidity.
This very force is then used to move the reactors between zones of various humidity levels, thus set it in "eternal" motion.
The ancient egyptians may have used the same energy to split rocks when they put sheets of wood into holes in the rocks and then
put water onto the sheets, so they expanded and finally split the rocks.

By now the evaporation part (uses capilares) becomes partially dry after a few days and the user has to re-wet it, so this part may be
optimized. But this part is old tech anyway. The Rotor at the other hand, that is the heart of this design, may run for weeks without problems.

If this model is built correctly (and I offer my assistance in case of problems), then it's an amazing little thing on your desk or in your
classroom. A bit like the drinking bird, but IMHO much more spectacular, since its motion is HIGHLY obvious.

When I finished this design and I saw it actually worked, I felt like totally euphorised for several days, only from watching it.
Needsless to say I've spent 100s of hours to build many prototypes and to test lots of materials etc. until I came up with this design.

Hopefully I will soon make a new video of it, including a bit more information. Thanks to all those who have purchased. You just help me to
continue my research, since I don't get any other support or financial backup.

No, I'm not too lazy, I still intend to build it, soon, very soon.

Offline Shanti

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Re: WATER MOTOR
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2008, 02:39:15 PM »
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Well, it is working with Osmosis,

Well, I personally think to call this an osmosis motor is just not correct. For IMHO this motor concept has nothing to do with osmosis.
Osmosis is what happens if you have two different water compartments with different salt concentrations, which are connected with each other through a semipermeable membrane, which only lets through water, but not the salts.
The salty compartment will draw water from the less salty compartment, until the salt concentration in both compartments is equal.

Here we have an effect which is IMHO more due to capillary effects. Due to adhesion capillary effects develop which draw water inside, and upside, even against gravity. If you now have a material which is mechanically flexible, the little capillary bubbles in the material are able to expand, and therefore the whole material expands, and this now develops mechanical action. This mechanical action is used to deflect some mass of the wheel in the direction of the center, and like that, the wheel becomes unbalanced and will turn. E.g. like a sponge: A dry sponge  is smaller than a wet sponge. As was said before it would be very interesting to find out which materials exhibit the strongest mechanical effects due to contact with water. This could increase it's efficiency.

I had a similar idea, but not based on the mechanical deformation due to dampness, but due to the weight difference. And from this point of view, this water wheel is constructed the wrong way around: The forces developed due to weight change, work against the forces due to the mechanical action of the flappers.
As the flappers get wet in the lower part of the wheel they start to bent. But at the same time, because they get wet, they also get heavier! And this force is working against the rotation of the wheel.
If you would like to get rid of this, one would have to make the wetting part of the wheel on the opposite, which means not on the lower part, where the wheel is going up, but on the upper part, where the wheel is going down.
Now the flappers additional weight work in the same direction.
But now, one would have to change the flappers so, that they do not bent inside the wheel on getting wet, but to the outside. This surely gets you into problems with the wetting part which is also located outside. Therefore you the have to mount the wetting part on the inside of the wheel. This makes the construction surely a bit more complex, but also more efficient.

BTW: The current $20 for the plans are IMHO a rip off. $10 would be OK, but $20 is just too much...
« Last Edit: September 16, 2008, 03:24:16 PM by Shanti »

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