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tsl

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Just in case...
« on: May 19, 2008, 04:36:04 PM »
once more
Have a look!
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4486.0;attach=23557;image)

Now after Investigation ask yourself where do such a field pattern exists and further ask yourself what could happend if this pattern is moving along the same direction the electrons do.

And by the way, at the same speed!



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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 11:15:46 PM »
Ok.
Let us assume that the radial field pattern exists inside a conductor(collector)-that would be B1-.Now assume that somehow- see tao's posts- a current I appear in that conductor.That current will create the second B field ,let's say B2.So what now?Will the field pattern begin to rotate?that would be nice.Nope ,it will begin to swirl around .So the B2 will make B1 to swirl. Now what does that swirling create/induce ?That's right.A new current that will amplify the first current.And and and .....

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 09:36:27 AM »
So who says yes or no to this? Or you need more?

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 10:06:52 AM »
MORE ! MORE!.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM »
Bring it on!

--giantkiller.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2008, 09:17:00 PM »
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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2008, 03:01:41 AM »
Hey tsl,
Nice story!.....a 3d diagram of the conductor will make the story easier to follow

Lindsay

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2008, 06:57:36 PM »
@Mannix
I'll try to make one later today or tomorrow.btw is out there any animation program easy to learn and use?-a free one.
@Loner
mmm... not quite the kick,but more the amplification of a simple insignificant kick into a huge, large current Boom.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 07:07:43 PM »
So the two axis of rotation are just an affect. Stop shooting for rotation and go for amplification. The rotation will result?

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 10:19:13 PM »
@BEP
I'm not quite sure i understand what you're saying, sorry...
Anyway there was a nice story about rotating a magnetic field in two directions.I didn't saw a discussion about that, no question, nada.So what are the 2 directions ?Would it be needed to rotate both poles in a symmetric way??Would a radial pattern ,when rotated, behave the same for both poles configurations?What if we move just one pole configuration around?There are many unanswered questions.I see ppl here doing much and great experimental work, but sadly, without any theories behind.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 07:11:05 AM »
For quite a while I've been convinced rotation is needed. Most have published it is a cause instead of a result. I don't think it is a cause, especially not in a pumping quadrature fashion.
Two axis.... Yes, few discussions on that but things are 3D, afterall. On the vector summation this is the only way I see any amplification. That alone takes you into old physics arguments relating to approaching c and the effects. Don't need to go there.

A radial mag field? No problem. We all do it every day. (current flowing through a wire) But I don't think that is the only radial mag field. I'm trying to allow time for bench proof (not much luck nowdays) to find that two reacting radial mag fields will create a third field. If I'm right that third field will not be magnetic but would create a magnetic field that would aid the other two. I suspect that third field will be the equivalent of current flowing through a wire but in an axial direction - and no wire. That would create a radial mag field that would aid and perhaps replace the first radial field.
Kind of like a furnace that uses fire as fuel.

It isn't difficult to build something that will go boom. I've had my share of that. I've also been known to spew theories. Trying to clean up my act a bit here. I'm still trying to weed out the fact from the last theories I vomited. The above is one from several months ago that remains on the list.

If nothing else I've learned a great deal and had fun doing it.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 08:07:35 AM »
...A radial mag field? No problem. We all do it every day. (current flowing through a wire)... 
It will be a circular one not radial.

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2008, 03:37:21 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-w5WK5-uIU


@Chef
Nice.But you get this because of the interaction of 2 fields not from a pulsed coil alone.




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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2008, 01:14:07 PM »
It will be a circular one not radial.

Yes, of course. Probably a matter of perspective. The density varies radially but the magnetic polarity is circular. The hard thing for me is to always remember everything is at right angles.

I'm thinking the right angles are key. At some point of this angle generation the direction is that needed for current generation in the conductor. Then that would be feedback, resonance and amplification together.
The problem I'm having in this thought experiment is at this point current flow is reversed. The reason for mirror images of coils? The control of one fed by the collector of the other?
Not sure and need to get to work again  >:(

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Re: Just in case...
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2008, 03:05:01 PM »
The field that is perpendicular to the wire is the "tempic" field (radial).

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