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Author Topic: A Gravity Wheel Concept  (Read 5231 times)

Offline Charlie_V

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A Gravity Wheel Concept
« on: May 17, 2008, 07:58:42 AM »
I think most gravity wheel ideas are flawed in that they are trying to overcome the energy it takes to unbalance the wheel by fighting gravity.  I believe gravity should be the secondary force in the system.  So here is an idea I had not too long ago.  Referring to my drawing: 

In the mystical realm of make believe, you take a wheel and you magically hinge two plates to it (shown in yellow in the drawing) in such a way that when the wheel is rotated, the plates remain horizontal at all times (they cannot be gravity dependent, i.e. connected where they dangle like a scale).  You place weights on both sides (shown as blue and red in the drawing).  The blue weight remains stationary.  By sliding the red weight back and forth, it unbalances the wheel causing it to rotate. 

The main concept here is that by producing a horizontal motion, you allow gravity to act on the wheel.  A horizontal motion is much easier to produce since you are not fighting gravity.  If you give the red weight a sufficient force, and the yellow plate has low friction, the red weight should glide from one side of the plate to the other.  Energy will be the applied force times the distance (or mass times applied acceleration times distance).  The difference is that if you were to try lifting the weights against gravity, it becomes mass times gravitational acceleration times height (height being a distance).  So in essence, with horizontal movement you control what the acceleration is going to be!  As long as this acceleration is less than gravity, this system will produce over unity, since you are causing the blue weight to lift with less energy than m* g*h.  The yellow plates would have to very slippery so that a little push would cause the red weight to glide across.  Once a body set in motion, it will stay in motion - we use that to our advantage.  You want the red weight holding as much kinetic energy as it can. 

Now obviously the way I drew this is flawed, making a wheel like in my diagram will not work.  In fact, I'm not exactly sure how you could hinge a wheel to do this.  I think in reality, no matter where you put the red weight (even if you could hinge something like in the drawing) there will not be an imbalance.  I've tested this using scales.  If you place a rod on a scale that extends off the scale yet still attached, placing objects on the rod yield the same weight no matter where on the rod the objects are placed.  BUT, there may be a trick through gears or something - who knows.  This is just food for thought, to stimulate the creative minds out there. 

Feel free to throw out some ideas on how you might be able to get something like this to work.  I just feel if SOMETHING similar to this can be achieved, we will have a working gravity machine. 

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Charlie

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A Gravity Wheel Concept
« on: May 17, 2008, 07:58:42 AM »

Offline RebeLLz

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Re: A Gravity Wheel Concept
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 11:42:37 AM »
 left=right,  the weight sits on axis. Left and right is equally difficult.

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Re: A Gravity Wheel Concept
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 12:06:05 PM »
@Charlie_V
you could use 3 wheels side by side to do it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 12:06:05 PM »
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Offline Charlie_V

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Re: A Gravity Wheel Concept
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 04:11:21 PM »
@hartiberlin,

I was originally thinking two wheels side by side, but offset, connected to each other at their periphery.  But like Rebellz said, I still think they will always be equal no matter where along the yellow plates (maybe if I made the plates orange it would work haha). 

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Re: A Gravity Wheel Concept
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 09:49:32 PM »
Hmmm. What about wheels within wheels. Maybe with a stationary gear in the center that meshes with gears on 2 or 3 little wheels attached to the outer wheel at their axles. You'd lose some energy from friction but you could get a clockwork assembly that ensures the yellow plates are in the correct positions at all times.

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Re: A Gravity Wheel Concept
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 11:01:51 PM »
you could us a cam to tilt the arms as it is running, if the wheel is running clockwise, at 7 oclock, have the left arm lift to slide the weight towards the center, and have the arm at 1 oclock tip outwards

not sure if that would work, but it is an idea

 

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