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Author Topic: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex  (Read 218689 times)

Offline broli

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2008, 10:59:48 PM »
should be: http://broli.dommel.be/lAlexWheel.avi

I'm now also looking to convert this to 3ds max where I can use reactor to get it running.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2008, 11:39:39 PM »
should be: http://broli.dommel.be/lAlexWheel.avi

I'm now also looking to convert this to 3ds max where I can use reactor to get it running.

Hi Broli,
many thanks for this animation.
But you did set the frames persecond just to 1 fps and also the weights did not move...
So is this a limitation to sketchyphysics ?

Why do the weights not move ?

Many thanks.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2008, 11:46:50 PM »
@Stefan;

Yeah it's pretty much a sketchyphysics limit. Since you can't set individual masses, so the wheightst could be 1g as far as it matters. Tommorrow I'll try out 3dsmax  ;D.

@Alexioco: Any updates or news from your side?

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2008, 12:08:22 AM »
Animation looked good, shame the weights were not moving, any how, we know how it works now.

Tomorrow I hope to get the rim for my wheel then attach the other wheel to make it a complete wheel, then all is left to get are the weights, and that will be the moment of truth, I would like to test different weights with my wheel but that wont be happening in a while so I will only be able to make a limited test, but it should bring forth some interesting results...

It?s hard to believe that if this wheel works the simplicity of it is amazing, my excitement will be un controllable.

I?m going to Venice this year, and I want my wheel made before I go so that if my wheel works, I can set my wheel off in my attic and leave it for a week, then come back, go into the attic, and just before I open the door to see if it still going it will be so exciting:p

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2008, 12:12:25 AM »
Hi Alex,
I am going to do now another WM2D test.

Should all weights be the same or should I try different weights
inside the machine ?
Please let me know.
Many thanks.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2008, 12:13:44 AM »
@Hans,
nice examples.
Do you think,one could simulate the Alex design with Newton ?

What limitation has the demo Version of Newton ?

Many thanks.

Offline Alexioco

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2008, 12:14:52 AM »
Well I believe that a lighter weight will lift a heavier weight which are on the poles, not to much lighter, but it will say 2 ounces lifting 4 ounces should work, try it and see what happens...

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2008, 12:16:36 AM »

@Alexioco: Any updates or news from your side?

Well broli there is a new page with photos of a wheel stand that should be easy to build.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2008, 12:18:04 AM »
There is?

edit: ah got ya

« Last Edit: May 17, 2008, 12:49:09 AM by Alexioco »

Offline broli

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2008, 12:49:09 AM »
Stefan, could you post the wm2d file of your previous setup please.

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #100 on: May 17, 2008, 12:50:30 AM »
@Hans,
nice examples.
Do you think,one could simulate the Alex design with Newton ?

What limitation has the demo Version of Newton ?

Many thanks.

@Stefan,

It is unfortunately not a demo version. What they call a demo are just three animations created with the programme. I guess we have to buy the thing to find out. Looks fascinating though.

Hans

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #101 on: May 17, 2008, 12:51:20 AM »
I have been thinking, you know when it comes to combinding the MT's, I think its possible that when you combined them you need to do it in order of the wheels, because this is how I got my wheel, it was like a progression of wheels making the main wheel, meaning if I wanted to add MT 27 then its now time to, but I missed MT 19/20 so that would have to be put into my wheel, and you would get this which is improved from the wheel that I have now...

This wheel you see below will be a very strong wheel for lifting the weights, now I need to think how to involve MT 27 and it will be such a strong wheel...

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #102 on: May 17, 2008, 12:57:37 AM »
For instance you can combined MT 25 and 27 to get this result
then place that into the above wheel to make it complete...

These are just ideas on how you can play with the wheels...

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #103 on: May 17, 2008, 01:02:20 AM »
By putting all of that together, you might get this wheel below, but I dont think that would work...

For the moment, the wheel I have needs to be tested...
I wish these weights were here, if they were, you would know very soon if the wheel worked or not...

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Re: Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex
« Reply #104 on: May 17, 2008, 02:28:14 AM »
Stefan, could you post the wm2d file of your previous setup please.

I will post later a new better one.
Stay tuned.

Regards, Stefan.