Author Topic: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS (Read 81667 times)

vince · « **Reply #30 on:** May 16, 2008, 04:34:15 AM »

Try ;

http://www.americanantigravity.com/paul-brown-seg.shtml

Go to the second page where his notes and plans are.

Vince

Dact · « **Reply #31 on:** May 16, 2008, 06:39:24 AM »

Quote from: nightlife on May 16, 2008, 03:10:51 AM

Dact, I am glad I was able to help you with your decision for posting your thoughts. I do hope that you post more if you should have and or even think of any new ones.

I could not down load your attachments and I am having a hard time picturing what you were talking about. If you could post a picture using a different program, I would like to see it so I can give you my opinion of it.

Please note that I am not a very book smart guy but I will give you my honest opinion.

Good luck and thank you.
Tom

I am trying to produce a JPEG from Working Model 2D That meets the size limitations. I did post a new topic, named "Repelling 'Fan' motor".

In your original post, are the coils charged exactly as shown? And if so, for how long?

Dact

gotoluc · « **Reply #32 on:** May 16, 2008, 08:27:38 AM »

Quote from: gyulasun on May 15, 2008, 11:27:07 PM

Hi Luc,

I assume you will drive the rotor with something (preferably with a low power motor) and utilize the induced power in the stators' coils, right?
Would like to ask how you think the effect of Lenz law will manifest in the input power consumption of the driving motor?
I assume the load current in the output coils will always create repel poles at the endings of the stators with respect to the just approaching and then leaving rotor magnet poles. It is ok that you can cleverly manipulate the number of coils with the number of rotor magnets to minimize cogging but once the load appears so does the repel poles at the prongs so cogging may reappear, with increasing input power demand due to Lenz law, this is how I think now.

Have you considered these things already?

Thanks, Gyula

Hi Gyula,

yes, I would use a motor to turn the rotor (at first). Lenz's Law can be eliminated if one uses the correct coil design. From the tests I did with Thane Heins at the Ottawa University, Topic: Thane Heins Perepiteia, we have been able to eliminate the effect of Lenz's Law with high voltage coils. Here is a youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PBavkMGwI that demonstrates this. At this time the effect is not science, however I know it is possible since I have seen it and can replicate it. I am still testing and trying to find the ideal configuration. So what I am thinking to build (at this time) maybe not be the best. I was just sharing my design thoughts with nightlife.

Luc

scotty1 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 16, 2008, 11:37:11 AM »

Hey...I made a motor like the drawings here way back in 2005...hehehe
Here you can see it going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj6gaf4chzM
Now about the amount of energy in one end of a coil core.....IT IS ONLY 25% OR LESS OF THE INPUT POWER.
Maybe you are suprised by that, but it is true......one pole of the coil core shows only 25% or less of the energy that went in the coil from the battery.
Most coils are wasting the other 75%....

Here is another motor i made that drives my Wimhurst machine...It works a similar way, but uses repulsion at first.....then the flux from the drive magnets goes into attraction by itself, and then just short of alignment the electromagnet changes its flux to again repel the incoming drive magnet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqXtWeAQx60&feature=related
To see Lenz's law acting on the coil watch part 2....

scotty

nightlife · « **Reply #34 on:** May 16, 2008, 01:05:19 PM »

Dact, you are more then welcome to call me at the phone number I have listed in my first post here so I can explain how to do this. It is hard for me to explain things in writing although I will try. Please bear with me here.

The pulse length is really undicided at this time but the following picture will show what there is to work with.

nightlife · « **Reply #35 on:** May 16, 2008, 01:23:34 PM »

vince, the design you are talking about is like John has in this next video. The C shaped coils that are shown are actually the charging coils and I was going to use them to charge off magnets that would be placed on the outer side of the wheels. Here is a video link to johns design. Thank you for your reply as well as for the links you provided us with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qvSNkiB9M

nightlife · « **Reply #36 on:** May 16, 2008, 01:31:58 PM »

scotty1, that was the first video I have ever seen that utilized both poles of the electromagnet. Your video is the best one for me to use to help explain what I have been saying.
Now just add magnets with reverse polarity?s to the ones you have and reposition your reed switch to fire between them. You will find that you will achieve 100% more torque.
Then put magnets around the outside of the wheels and build some C shaped coils and use them to create energy from the outside magnets. Once you have done those things, you have built what I have been talking about.

Thank you for posting your video link.

b0rg13 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 16, 2008, 01:58:03 PM »

Quote from: nightlife on May 16, 2008, 01:31:58 PM

scotty1, that was the first video I have ever seen that utilized both poles of the electromagnet. Your video is the best one for me to use to help explain what I have been saying.
Now just add magnets with reverse polarity?s to the ones you have and reposition your reed switch to fire between them. You will find that you will achieve 100% more torque.
Then put magnets around the outside of the wheels and build some C shaped coils and use them to create energy from the outside magnets. Once you have done those things, you have built what I have been talking about.

Thank you for posting your video link.

yup i agree thats one of the best mag motors ive seen as well(because it looks simple), Nightlife maybe you can build one based on this and show us some results..

scotty1 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 16, 2008, 02:42:01 PM »

Here is a test for those who are curious.
Place a 1/8" dia and 18" long bare copper wire in an E/W direction.
Place a car battery South of the wire...pos terminal East, neg terminal West.
Use a lead to connect the pos to the East end of the wire...
Connect another lead to the West end of the copper wire...leave the neg terminal open for now.
Place a 1" long very thin needle on top and accross the copper wire so it points N/S.
Place another identical needle under the copper wire also in a N/S direction.
Hold both needles on the copper wire with your fingers.
Connect the lead to the neg terminal for a short time until the copper wire warms up.
Keep the needles the way they are facing and first hang the top needle by its center in the Earth's field and you will see that it stays the way it is....
Now take the needle from under the copper wire and hang it by its middle in the Earth's field.
THIS TIME THE NEEDLE WILL TURN AROUND 180 DEGREES.
Scotty.

nightlife · « **Reply #39 on:** May 16, 2008, 04:08:01 PM »

Thanks to a private message I received from rukiddingme, I realized that we do not even need power to create power.

One of my first designs was a magnet motor that was to use three to pass one. I had no luck doing so and I abandon that design. I have recently came up with the understanding that the air gap between to polarity's are strong enough to pull a magnet through one polarity. Therefore we can use two to one and create what most call over unity. This can be done.

WE NOW HAVE A POWER SOURCE WITHOUT THE USE OF POWER AND IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS THE MAGNETS LAST.

gotoluc · « **Reply #40 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:02:43 PM »

Quote from: scotty1 on May 16, 2008, 02:42:01 PM

Here is a test for those who are curious.
Place a 1/8" dia and 18" long bare copper wire in an E/W direction.
Place a car battery South of the wire...pos terminal East, neg terminal West.
Use a lead to connect the pos to the East end of the wire...
Connect another lead to the West end of the copper wire...leave the neg terminal open for now.
Place a 1" long very thin needle on top and accross the copper wire so it points N/S.
Place another identical needle under the copper wire also in a N/S direction.
Hold both needles on the copper wire with your fingers.
Connect the lead to the neg terminal for a short time until the copper wire warms up.
Keep the needles the way they are facing and first hang the top needle by its center in the Earth's field and you will see that it stays the way it is....
Now take the needle from under the copper wire and hang it by its middle in the Earth's field.
THIS TIME THE NEEDLE WILL TURN AROUND 180 DEGREES.
Scotty.

Hi Scotty,

great work you have done

thanks for sharing and mostly with all your great videos. I would like to do your experiment above but could you do a video of it? it is kind of difficult to follow written

I'm more of a visual guy.

Thanks

Luc

gotoluc · « **Reply #41 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:29:47 PM »

Quote from: nightlife on May 16, 2008, 04:08:01 PM

Thanks to a private message I received from rukiddingme, I realized that we do not even need power to create power.

One of my first designs was a magnet motor that was to use three to pass one. I had no luck doing so and I abandon that design. I have recently came up with the understanding that the air gap between to polarity's are strong enough to pull a magnet through one polarity. Therefore we can use two to one and create what most call over unity. This can be done.

WE NOW HAVE A POWER SOURCE WITHOUT THE USE OF POWER AND IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS THE MAGNETS LAST.

Hi Tom, I think I now understand your design ideal. Also it seems you have received a confirmation that it is the correct approach. Please keep us informed.

Thanks

Luc

gyulasun · « **Reply #42 on:** May 17, 2008, 01:13:54 AM »

Quote from: nightlife on May 16, 2008, 04:08:01 PM

WE NOW HAVE A POWER SOURCE WITHOUT THE USE OF POWER AND IT WILL LAST AS LONG AS THE MAGNETS LAST.

Hi Thomas,

Sorry but you lost me... I would like to understand, can I?

Thanks, Gyula

nightlife · « **Reply #43 on:** May 17, 2008, 03:33:21 AM »

gyulasun,

Quote

Sorry but you lost me... I would like to understand, can I?

I am sorry but I have yet to post that design but I should be done building the proto type for it tonight. I have always had the design and I was just missing one key feature that I have just figured out after I stated this thread.

I will be posting more later.

Dact · « **Reply #44 on:** May 17, 2008, 07:16:35 AM »

Quote from: scotty1 on May 16, 2008, 11:37:11 AM

Hey...I made a motor like the drawings here way back in 2005...hehehe
Here you can see it going...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj6gaf4chzM
Now about the amount of energy in one end of a coil core.....IT IS ONLY 25% OR LESS OF THE INPUT POWER.
Maybe you are suprised by that, but it is true......one pole of the coil core shows only 25% or less of the energy that went in the coil from the battery.
Most coils are wasting the other 75%....
Here is another motor i made that drives my Wimhurst machine...It works a similar way, but uses repulsion at first.....then the flux from the drive magnets goes into attraction by itself, and then just short of alignment the electromagnet changes its flux to again repel the incoming drive magnet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqXtWeAQx60&feature=related
To see Lenz's law acting on the coil watch part 2....

YouTube claims these are no longer available. True?

scotty

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