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Author Topic: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS  (Read 74869 times)

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #135 on: June 21, 2008, 04:52:51 AM »
Here is a rough draft of the design I am working on.

 If any of you have read my other postings, I have stated that it takes at least three to pass one, now keep that in mind when viewing this and remember that the gap between two opposite polarities is much stronger as well it has a much longer maximum strength rating. The strength starts at just past center of one and ends just before center of the next. The distance between the can house three different smaller magnets. The trick is to not have two smaller magnets at the center of the two different poled magnets at the same time.

Offline GetReal

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #136 on: June 21, 2008, 11:21:41 AM »
Hi Nightlife,

I'm glad to see that you have a good understanding of why the SMOT device can't be overunity. Why then do people try to make a perpetual motor using a SMOT?

My concept of energy is that produced during the equalisation of a differential, eg hot and cold, high potential and low potential, high pressure and low pressure etc.

Offline Bobbotov

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #137 on: June 21, 2008, 04:05:55 PM »
Hi Nightlife,

I'm glad to see that you have a good understanding of why the SMOT device can't be overunity. Why then do people try to make a perpetual motor using a SMOT?

My concept of energy is that produced during the equalisation of a differential, eg hot and cold, high potential and low potential, high pressure and low pressure etc.

People try to make PM from SMOT because they do not know what they are doing and misunderstand what is taking place. They also typically refuse to include the energy used by their hands in moving the ball to its start position as being part of the whole energy gain/loss cycle. Plus it is an open system which for producing any useful work is pointless. It could be imagined having a SMOT cascade in which the ball drops to another ramp and then that drops to another ramp and so forth. This would be closing the loop and theoretically it would run forever. It doesn't. Something so simple could be made in a short amount of time and end the argument. No one has done it despite SMOT advocates saying that closing the loop is a "simple" engineering problem. It is not (the impossible is always a tad more complicated).


Differences in potential can generate energy as in producing electron flow. The problem ultimately is one of entropy though. As the potentials diminish the energy produced also diminishes to the point where there is no difference at all and no energy is produced. Now if the potential difference are high enough you will be able to generate energy for a long time but the end result will always be the same - complete depletion of the difference and zero energy. To maintain the difference requires input energy defeating the whole concept of producing infinite energy.

We do not know everything about magnetism. But there are many things we do not know everything about, light, electrons, gravity, etc. Yet, we still manage to get utility out of them. Not OU but useful work. We may not know everything about gravity but we do know if you fall off a cliff you will fall to your death. Every time.

It is very possible that the pursuit of free energy is an illusion. Our minds can make elaborate illusions that fool the best of us. Think of the ever spiraling upward ramp of M.C. Escher. It appears to our minds that the ramp goes up forever and yet in fact it is an illusion. I think most free energy seekers only see the illusion without ever seeing the impossibility of what is underlying it.

Offline Paul-R

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #138 on: June 21, 2008, 04:12:20 PM »
Hi Nightlife,

I'm glad to see that you have a good understanding of why the SMOT device can't be overunity.
A ball bearing rushing up a ramp is gaining potential energy. Turning this into a useful device
is quite another matter.

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #139 on: June 21, 2008, 04:25:48 PM »
Hi GetReal, I am not sure why people try but I did remember one that did strike my interest but I can not find it now. I will try to find it latter and post a link to it for you to check out.

 As for your concept of energy, you have to remember that hot and cold, as well as high and low pressures are all things that are produced by energy. As for a high and low potential as well as the others, energy has to be present first before any of those things can be created.

 I think your concept is more about how energy can be used for collection and or for utilization. Energy is all around us and it just a matter of us being able to attract, harness and collect it so that we can utilize it for our own needs. Everything has a vibrancy limit and everything puts out a vibration. Most of which are noticed by smell, touch, sound and sight. There are those that are undetectable by humans and they are things like air and a lot of different microscopic particles. We cants see, smell, feel or hear them because their vibrancy is not vibrant enough. As microscopic particles become compressed in groups, then they become more noticeable by human senses.
 There is still so much we have to learn about true energy before we can ever assume what it truly is. We just don?t have the knowledge and or equipment to find out. The closest we came to being able to see a so called Electron is a microscopic trace within a Atom and that to me was just a trace of a vibration that gives the Atom life.

 As I said before, I could go on for days with my assumptions but yet they are all worthless without proof so therefore, I am just wasting my time. What?s new though. Life its self is just a waste of time and our greed to live comfortly is what brings us together here looking for ways to produce something we already have.
 Now I see why so many scientist have been said to be crazy. LOL

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2008, 08:44:09 AM »
I must be brain dead. I cant believe I thought my last design I posted could work. LOL

 For some weird reason, I keep thinking of ways to utilize magnets without using a outside source to produce power. Ever time I think of something, I seem to forget about what I have already learned in past experiments. For that I say, I must be brain dead.

 Maybe some day I will give up and realize it cant be done but until then, I will push on.

 I will say my best thought thus far is utilizing both poles of a magnetic coil and utilizing the gap between two opposite poled magnets.

 I am also interested in the amplifying of electricity using a magnet as someone has mentioned in another thread. I will post a idea as well as a rough draft I have pictured in my head when I get a chance.

 So for now, it's back to the drawing board.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #141 on: June 27, 2008, 01:04:53 AM »
Hi,ive been lurking for a while but i would like to share with you what i've been up to.I to have been thinking about utilising both poles of the coil for a while and here's a vid of just that.What's interesting here is there is no increase in current draw for 2 rotors as apposed to 1.
 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ajtYT-40nZM

Regards JonnyDavro.

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #142 on: June 27, 2008, 07:15:47 AM »
jonnydavro, Thank you for confirming my previous assumptions. That proves the work is doubled using both poles without using any more power.

 Now I only have to prove how the gap between two opposite poles will again double the work without using any more power.

 Not only should it double the work, it should also allow a longer pulse length.

 We should also be able to design a generator that can be powered by the pulse motor that will produce a a/c current that we can pull the back EMF from. We should be able to take that back EMF and add it with the pulse motors back EMF and come real close to being 100% if not more efficient and still have the power from the generator to power something else.
 The whole set up should show a efficiency of well over 100%.

 Thanks again for posting your experiment for us all to see.

Offline Thaelin

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2008, 04:12:02 AM »
Hi all:
   Thaelin here. I found a piece of the puzzle here for the grabs so I feel I will
leave a tid bit for all you to see as well. I was playing with recapturing the emf
of a coil as to power its self and had three coils feeding each other and the last
feeding the first. I took a coil normally drawing 800ma and had it down to 14ma
in the end. I will take a stab at getting the circuit drawn up and make a gif of it
to upload here.
   I was using regulators on the recapture caps to limit the output to the next
coil so it could stay charged up. You just have to make sure you put diodes on
the battery that keeps the circulating power in the circuit and not trying to reenter
the batt. I think it did very well for powering 3 coils and once up to run, only using
an aditional  14ma of power. Could run a long time that way. Just add tri-filar wound
coils and you could tap off some of the excess as well. Not sure what that would
do to the overall draw on the source battery tho. Using variable regulators would
allow you to adjust the circulating power and overall draw as well.
  More later.

th

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #144 on: August 07, 2008, 04:45:20 AM »
Don't forget Muller.

--giantkiller.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2009, 02:04:43 AM »
having read this thread it would be interesting to know how the testing of the principles worked out.I imagine with the shape of the fields eminating from the curved coil would promote rotation given that the supply a/c to the coil being 50-60 hertz.Perhaps though the magnetic field between the poles of the curved coil might interfere with the efficiency. Just guessing,no workshop, I'm probably talking to myself anyway looking at the dates, kind regards eddy