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Author Topic: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS  (Read 74867 times)

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #120 on: June 11, 2008, 05:58:17 PM »
Hi Eddy,
 The motor you speak of has been known about for years but big money will not allow it to be mass produced. There are many others since that have been designed but again, big money will not allow them to be mass produced.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #121 on: June 11, 2008, 07:03:31 PM »
HI NIGHTLIFE,
             THANK YOU FOR YOUR UPDATE REGARDING THE ECONOMIC FORCES. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AN INDEPENDENT OPINION OF ANY OF THESE DESIGNS BY A QUALIFIED ELECTRICAL ENGINEER AND THEN HAVE A PROTOTYPE BUILT IN INDIA,OR ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD?
             ON U TUBE I NOTICED A GUY IN AUSTRALIA WHO'S DEVELOPED A 7KW MAGNETIC MOTOR/GENERATOR (LUTEC AUSTRALIA PTY LTD), I'VE MAILED THE COMPANY AND I'M WAITING FOR A REPLY... MY GOODNESS! IF WE DON'T TRY TO GET THESE NEW ENERGY DEVICES PRODUCED WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WASTING OUR TIME FOR HERE.
             MOST RESPECTFULLY, THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, KIND REGARDS EDDY

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #122 on: June 11, 2008, 11:20:48 PM »
Hi Eddy,

 I am sorry but big money not only rules our country but it also rules the world. I cant say these motors work as they claim but I can say that if they do, we will never know unless we can build them for ourselves. There is no way we can get these mass produced even if we can build them. Big money will never allow it. We can however, try to design some that are easy for the average to build them selves and if enough can be built, then we may be able to make some much needed changes but until then, we are stuck.

 Open source is our only hope and if anyone can build anything that will work, lets just hope they make it open source or else we will never get a chance to see, build and or use it.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #123 on: June 12, 2008, 02:53:12 PM »
               THANKS NIGHTLIFE, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT THE MOTOR ON " PESWIKI.COM" IT MAY BE A CONTENDER ! THERE ARE SO MANY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY QUALIFIED TO CHECK THESE MOTORS OUT?
               AS I SAID I'LL BE LOOKING INTO THE MATTER OF PRODUCTION AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN UPDATE. WISH ME LUCK EH? KIND REGARDS EDDY

Offline GetReal

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #124 on: June 14, 2008, 04:47:37 AM »
Has anyone tried measuring the amount of force versus distance of a metal object approaching a magnet, compared to moving away from it? This is to see if there is any difference in the amount of work produced when approaching the magnet to work required to move the metal away.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #125 on: June 14, 2008, 08:55:03 AM »
GetReal, 
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Has anyone tried measuring the amount of force versus distance of a metal object approaching a magnet, compared to moving away from it?

 The work required is equal.

 I see you are a new member and I want to personally welcome you to this forum.

Offline eddy

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2008, 12:44:57 PM »
HI GET REAL,
         EDDY HERE JUST LOOKING IN TO CHECK MY MAIL; REGARDING YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE FORCES BETWEEN THE SAME POLE MAGNETS AND THE WORKABLE ENERGY AVAILABLE. IT IS MY OPINION THAT IF THE FACE OF THE MAGNET SITED ON THE ROTOR IS POSITIONED AT AN ANGLE  "  BETWEEN  " ZERO DEGREES (WITH THE MAGNET FACE POINTING STRAIGHT UP AND OPPOSING, TOWARDS THE STATOR;ON A LINE GOING TO THE CENTRE POINT OF THE ROTOR) TO 90 DEGEES ( WHICH WOULD MEAN THE MAGNET FACE IS ON ITS SIDE) YOU WILL ACHIEVE ROTATION FROM ALL ANGLES OF APPROACH. HAVING ACHIEVED THIS MOTION AND POWERING A GENERATOR IT WOULD THEN BE POSSIBLE TO ENPOWER FIELD COILS IN THE MOTOR TO ENHANCE THE MAGNETIC FIELD OF THE STATOR AND OR ROTOR TO INCREASE OR DECREASE  ROTATION AND SUBSEQUENT POWER OUTPUT.
          I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS LOGIC AS I'M NOT CURRENTLY IN A POSITION TO HAVE ACCESS TO A WORKSHOP OR MATERIALS. I HOPE YOU FIND THIS INFO. USEFUL.

         KIND REGARDS EDDY

Offline Xaverius

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #127 on: June 20, 2008, 04:14:53 AM »
Hi Nightlife, I'm also interested in the concept of using both poles of a magnet in a motor or generator.  Did you ever get a device to work?  I am at a loss as to materials, parts sources, etc. to build my own design.  Do you have any suggestions.

I think this concept(using both poles) is very feasible.  If you have already answered these questions in previous posts, I apologize as I don't always read threads word for word.  Thanx.

Offline nightlife

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #128 on: June 20, 2008, 05:28:59 AM »
Hi  Xaverius, I am sorry but I have not finished my motor yet but my common sense tells me that it has to double the torque. You cant have one pole with out the other and they both have to be equal strengths and when only one is used the other is wasted.
 Our city has a major problem that I am devoting my time to right now but as soon as I get a chance, I will get back to my motor.

 For all those who have problems with teens in your city, here is something you may want to suggest to your city's commissioners. This is a test site I have set up and I hope to have the program running next month. Teens are bored and that is why they are getting out of hand, at least in our city that is and if yours too, check out this next link to a web site I have thrown together.

 www.thebigclubhouse.com

Offline Xaverius

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #129 on: June 20, 2008, 05:40:40 AM »
Thanx Nightlife, I know you are very busy in the non-FE world, as most of the rest of us are.  Looking forward to reading about any results you may obtain in the future.  Like I said, I am in the process right now of my own design, I'm trying to keep it very simple.  I agree, if only one pole of a magnet is being used, then the other pole(of equal force/power) is being wasted.  I'd really like to see the result of twice the force being used as opposed to a conventional motor that only uses one pole.  I'll continue in my research, best of luck with yours.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #130 on: June 21, 2008, 01:39:34 AM »
Hi Everyone,

 In regards to the work produced by a metal object approaching a magnet to that required
to move it away, if the amount work is the same then how is it possible that the SMOT is an overunity device.

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #131 on: June 21, 2008, 01:57:29 AM »
Hi EDDY,

            Your idea sounds alot like something I read about a man called Johann Grander,
who built a magnetic generator using the same principle. It supposedly produced free energy.
There are websites about him and his experimentation.

Kind regards
GetReal

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #132 on: June 21, 2008, 02:15:48 AM »
Hi Nightlife,

                Thanks for the wellcome.

Some people claim that the SMOT device is overunity. This device uses the principle of attraction of a steel ball up a ramp to a magnet.
I can't see how an overunity motor or generator could result from the use of magnets if the amount of work is the same. So how is the SMOT device producing extra energy?

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #133 on: June 21, 2008, 04:25:10 AM »
Hi GetReal, I have not personally seen a smot design that even comes close to what most call over unity. Over unity is producing more work then the initial work provided. Most smot's are seen having a metal ball go up a track and just because the ball starts from no speed and then moves at a accelerated rate, they assume over unity. The truth is that the ball must be placed at the start which requires work and then it has to be picked up at the end and returned to the start which again requires works and based on the amount of work that is provided, the work produced can't even come close to the work provided. Therefore, over unity is not achieved.

 Another thing we must understand when claiming over unity is that we must first prove what energy is used and what energy is produced and due to the fact that we don?t even know what energy really even is, it would be impossible to claim true over unity.

 We have to answer this next questions first:

 What is energy?

 Not just what it does and or ways we can produce it but the true definition. Some say it is a frequency, some say it is a movement of electrons and some say magnetic fields. My theory is that it is nothing more then vibrations. No one can be wrong at this point do to it not ever being proven one or another. I could go on for days as I have on other threads but I will leave you with that. Food for thought LOL.

 Tom

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Re: FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS
« Reply #134 on: June 21, 2008, 04:27:00 AM »
Xaverius, you are right about most of us being busy with other things and I guess my given excuse was not valid and it helped me get back in to things.

 I was working on a magnet motor that requires no outside power source to run and produce excess power. I got stumped and that is why I jumped off and devoted all my attention on other projects. After reading your reply it made me think as well as it made me feel guilty and so I went down to my dungeon and went back thru my notes to see where I made a mistake. My notes were not wrong but I found them to be missing a couple important things. I also found that my proto type had some magnets placed wrong. I must have been tired or just brain dead when I built it. I learned a few things and that made it all worth while. I have some more experimenting to do before I can relay my new found thoughts.
 
 As for your pulse motor, I have posted a few different design concepts as well as a couple of others have. I have not built one yet to say which is best but I feel most of them can and or should work. You were asking about parts and I would have to know what you have in mind for a design first as well as how sophisticated you want your motor to be. If simple, I would suggest the Bedini School Girl parts and adding the utilization of both poles as well as utilizing the increased energy of the gap between two opposite polarities.

 Good luck and I will keep you posted on my findings as I hope you do the same with yours.

Tom
« Last Edit: June 21, 2008, 04:56:21 AM by nightlife »