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Author Topic: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day  (Read 5870 times)

Offline Feynman

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Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« on: May 10, 2008, 03:23:22 AM »
International Independent Test Evaluation Report

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ForumPDFs/International%20Independent%20Test%20Evaluation%20Report.pdf

Full info with all patent diagrams. 80Mb, lots of photographs.

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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 05:41:13 AM »
Aces!

Gratzi sir!

This should make for some interesting bedtime reading. :D

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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 05:50:11 AM »
Haha  aint it great

My favorite part:
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4133/explosionsxz6.jpg)


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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 05:50:11 AM »
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 07:08:15 AM »
I also want to drop a quick picture of the VIC circuit from that PDF...

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9412/vicut7.jpg)


Along with an actual replication of the twin bifilar coils done by our friends at waterfuelcell.org.

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5343/dsc09224885dk3.jpg)

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7393/dsc09225185xf9.jpg)

Look at that beautiful inductance!! You can see the symmetry between the two coils. Note it's good at both 3 and 6 khz.  Let hope the developer's next step is to run it with 800v and make some HHO. ;) ;)

source: http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4221#4221

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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 07:23:20 AM »
I gots no way to replicate that type of data, but I welcome the honest post of those that do.

It spurs me to learn enough to actually understand what they are posting, :D

@ Feyn

What does that mean please sir? It looks like a bell, sitting on a cup, sitting on a bell, ad infinitum.

I'm schtupid, and have the vehicle stickers to prove it!

I can see a spike that delineates the start of the bell from bottom to top, but know not of it's significants.
Please enlighten me!

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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 08:22:50 AM »
Oh haha , I get it now --   The bell/cup thing.  I had to tilt my head to the side.


Well depends on where you want me to start.  I guess I have a tendency to just assume things without explaining...

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Back in the 1970s and 1980s, a man from Ohio named Stanley Meyer invented a way to split water using very little input energy.  He was able to make ridiculous amounts of hydrogen and oxygen gas using only milliamps of input.  To put this in perspective, using conventional theory, what he was doing would have required somewhere upwards of 40,000amps.  So to do it with half an amp was nothing short of a breakthrough.

Now Stanley applied for patents on this research, and it was all confiscated by the government and classified for awhile under national security.  The rest of the story is predictable.  Information suppressed, legal troubles, ending in murder. And of course all his equipment was stolen.

Now in 2008, with oil drifting north of $125/barrel,  we are left picking up the pieces trying to figure out how the hell Mr. Stanley Meyer did it.
 
Conventional electrolysis is based around the Faraday's law.  Basically, the voltage you send through the water doesn't matter so much -- what matters is the amps. Most all of the HHO cells on youtube use this method.  Lots and lots of amps. Low voltage / high amps is how most people do it -- and its what the textbooks say.

Stanley's method used the opposite -- high voltage/low amperage.  It also used high frequency pulses. DC pulses.  Sound familiar? The story is almost exactly the same as the TPU. How ironic.  In any case, this brings us to the graphs.  Stanley's patents included a circuit called the VIC, or Voltage Intensifier Circuit.  The VIC part of the design seems somewhat important.

A person from another message board (waterfuelcell.org) has posted his replication of some of the details of the VIC circuit. I reposted his graphs.  This shows us two waveforms -- one on top and one on bottom.  The two waves are equal and opposite, which is why they make the cool pattern.

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5343/dsc09224885dk3.jpg)

You mentioned that it looks like a cup and a bell going to infinity.  This is actually very telling, because it shows us something -- symmetry.  The two coils are equal and opposite, down to the smallest detail.     They are mirror reflections of one another.   The axis of symmetry is the x-axis, running from left to right across the scope traces.  What does this tell us?   Just that this person's coils are very well made, and they are working almost perfectly symmetrical (from what I can tell).

On that scope trace, the x-axis is 'time' and the y-axis is 'volts'. So basically it is just showing you the two waveforms.  Incidently, that spike you mentioned is actually significant, because it shows you how long one cycle of the wave will take.  You can actually calculate the wavelength yourself. 

Look at the first graph. Count how many boxes go from the top of one peak to the other (left to right).  I'm serious, you should try this.

 It is approximately 6.5 boxes.  We know each box is 50 microseconds (us).   How?   Look up at the top of the screen, it tells us.  ;)   Now since we know each box is 50us, we know the length of the wave... 6.5boxes x 50us = 325us long.   So one wave lasts 325us.  Not bad, that's a useful piece of information.  From that, we can calculate the wave frequency.  How?  Pretty easy.  Just divide into one-million, since there's a million microseconds in a second.  Do 1,000,000 / 325us = 3,077.    So that means the frequency is 3077hz , or about 3.1khz (kilohertz), rounding up.

If you look at the graph you can see that's correct.  The graph says 3.18khz, and we said 3.10khz.  You just learned how to read a scope trace..   ;D

Can we split water with 0.5 amps yet?  Nope, but between this new PDF, and the research that this guy over at waterfuelcell.org is doing, we are on the right track.


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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 07:39:13 PM »
Very elegant post there Feynman hence the name I wish more folks would post in the informative fashion that you do.

I very much appreciate your efforts at this forum and look forward to every post you make.

I've got Feynman's physics pages archived somewhere and they explain how to make solar panels from copper plates and many other classic physics experiments solar, hydrolysis
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 10:01:14 PM »
Thank you for the kind words, my friend.  Hoepfully maybe this explained how to start reading scope traces. ;)

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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 03:04:09 PM »
International Independent Test Evaluation Report

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ForumPDFs/International%20Independent%20Test%20Evaluation%20Report.pdf

Full info with all patent diagrams. 80Mb, lots of photographs.
I cannot get this to download or open locally. Anyone else having problems?
Is there another copy of this file?
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
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Re: Full Stanley Meyer documentation 0day
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 03:25:13 PM »
It's over 80Mb.  Try right clicking the link and select "save link as..."   or "save target as".. 

It will take a few minutes to download.

 

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