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Author Topic: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?  (Read 5386 times)

jikwan

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want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« on: April 04, 2008, 07:09:54 PM »
if im not mistaken-dingle's cell housing was 12v batt case
for me to do a good job- i need thick perspex, cut it, then glue it
any of you techs advise me on batt case possibilities please?
for sure theres poss dangers
but also it might not be as bad as i think

careful cutting with hacksaw
find a suitable gasket or glue
2 thick plates top+bott
4xlong threaded bolts on corners
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Pharoah

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 04:43:04 AM »
I don't see why not. Guess it just depends on the thickness of your plates. 8)
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jikwan

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 05:13:00 AM »
quite thin   .7mm + thin spacers
i thought it would be an alternative to expensive perspex box or s steel box
i was wondering if a batt case could be opened somehow
take out battery plates and replace them with my 30 plate cell
if i can avoid cutting the top off
any cutting has to be very neat and straight
bit of a half baked idea
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ItzGenX

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 08:44:08 AM »
If you haven't ever notice, he does not use cell plates.  He uses metal honey comb sheets.  You see it when he opens his WFC and pokes at it etc for the media to see.  It looks sort of like a finer mesh version of chicken wire fence.  Also, under the hood of his vehicle, he has written it in with white paint marker.  It says "metal honey comb seperator".  See here on this vid,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kci_E2tvTw

Also, he supposedly has his hydrogen exit through a designated hose and enter a custom fuel rail with custom injectors (he calls them solenoids).  His oxygen hose runs to the intake manifold as additional air enrichment, which is engenious because no matter at what altitude you are at, he has enough oxygen to completely burn the hydrogen injected since when water is split, it is split into perfect proportions 2:1 ratio hydrogen:oxygen.  This means the car's power does not differ at different altitudes.
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b0rg13

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2008, 11:58:06 AM »
when the gas is given off how does he separate them ?...he seems to have the oxygen going to the air intake and the hyd going to injectors ?
......id like to see a diagramme of his basic set up.
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jikwan

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 08:10:36 PM »
im considering starting new topic:  new analasis of dingle system
it merits some attention
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Dr.Greenthumb

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 11:02:56 PM »
wtf? were you copying my cell drawings in school!!?!? i had the same idea! i swear!  actually i have a motorcycle battery that i cut half the top off just to see what was inside.i was planing on using it for a test case.
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Bulbz

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 11:42:08 PM »
Quote from: jikwan on April 04, 2008, 07:09:54 PM
if im not mistaken-dingle's cell housing was 12v batt case
for me to do a good job- i need thick perspex, cut it, then glue it
any of you techs advise me on batt case possibilities please?
for sure theres poss dangers
but also it might not be as bad as i think

careful cutting with hacksaw
find a suitable gasket or glue
2 thick plates top+bott
4xlong threaded bolts on corners


After cutting the perspex to a rough size...

Personally... I would sandwich the perspex between 2 thick metal plates leaving a bit protruding at the top edge, and clamp the whole thing in a WorkMate bench. Then I would simply run an electric orbital sander across the top, until the top edge is flush with the metal plate guides.


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raburgeson

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 02:15:33 AM »
I haven't looked at a Popular Mechanics for years but, they used to have supplies for battery rebuilders in the back adds. There should be something on the net about it yet, you used to be able to order open new battery cases. A few people have made storage caps out of them, I see no reason why you can't make a cell case out of one. Some of the old style cases in the 70s were very long, also industrial\commercial truck and tractor batteries are big if you need the extra room. I can't guarantee the price is going to be competitive with some other choices though.
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Pharoah

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Re: want to use 12v batt case to house 30 plate cell-feasable?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 04:45:13 AM »
I would be pretty concerned about heat being an issue in a battery case. I would imagine that a 30 plate cell would generate ALOT of heat, and I'm not sure the relatively thin walls of a battery case would be up to the task.
 Just my 2cents ;D
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