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Title: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 03, 2008, 07:11:45 AM
I?ve always wondered about Tesla lighting all those bulbs
26 miles away. It could not be a normal transmitter, no matter what configuration.
So there was ?something else? that was missing.
His ?Diametrically opposite to a Hertzian transmitter?, transmitter i believe.

If you looked at the Tesla coil as an electron pump, plates on either side,

Would the capacitor change the polarity of one plate,
Or would you need a more elaborate capacitor
network to be able to reverse polarity?
polarity inverter.
Figure 4.2
http://www.physiqueindustrie.com/Publi/solid_state_pulsed_power.pdf


If it could be done,i think It would make a very powerful
(mono) electrostatic oscillator/electron shuttle, where the entire air around
the machine would flip polarity back and forth and the air might even vibrate.

a free moving electron shuttle too, like a piston going back and forth. (no return path, plates are same polarity)
the air would flip polarity around the machine, the air might even vibrate.
static sparks on everything maybe, electrical systems close by
would probably dim due to overload. just like a UFO.

pulse power voltage inverter, electrostatic circuit.
I always thought Tesla was ?3 phase?.
But I can see now that his main passion was electrostatics,
As I do. This was rediscovered when I was designing  a electron shuttle
for a monopole (homopolar) motor light speed drive. (in ?other antigravity devices folder)
And I noticed the striking similarity to Tesla?s radiant energy patent.

Tesla talked about a device "diametrically opposite to a hertzian transmitter".
this could possibly be Tesla?s wireless energy ?the missing transmitter? .


Cliff,
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 04, 2008, 04:09:19 AM
electrostatic diode
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 04, 2008, 07:51:47 PM
alternate capacitor
Title: Possible TESLA RADIANT ENERGY RECEIVER
Post by: argona369 on May 05, 2008, 03:54:26 AM
Initial excitation probably needed.
(untested) and, first attempt at the "sink". (needs some work)

Cliff,
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 05, 2008, 08:10:08 PM
Note regarding the Mono Electrostatic Oscillator/Electron Shuttle.

A flipping polarity around the machine could throw off particles
Through electrostatic repulsion.
It would probably be better if both plates where covered with a dielectric ?cover?.
This would also help to prevent damping, and might look like the Tesatika's
?big cans?.

Cliff,
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 06, 2008, 09:49:04 PM
More on the electron shuttle (missing the tertiary ?magnetic capacitor?? (inverse to inductor) coil)
In regards to the ?piston?,


?He found that this pumping could be done with a piston "not connected to anything else, but was perfectly free to vibrate at an enormous rate?

?During a portion of its cycle the coil will appear to the earth's electric field as one plate of a capacitor?

http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/Fuelless.pdf
http://tesla.nichelson.googlepages.com/home

the ?sink?,

http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/Thermodynamics2.pdf


?People walking along the streets were amazed to see sparks jumping
between their feet and the ground, and flames of electricity would spring from a tap when anyone turned them on for a drink of water.?

"lightning arresters in the power house showed a stream of blue-white sparks passing
between the metal plates to the earth connection"

?<Then you are not making use of Hertz waves?? <Certainly not??

http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/ONichelsonTUNGUSKA.pdf

the spark gap (might) be the ?motive force? as in,
"I have harnessed the cosmic
rays and caused them to operate a motive device."

?the current driving the turbine.?
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_arts.html

interestiing "classic driven" version,
and the much more advanced and sleeker ?UFO engine? design to the right of it.
A truly sleek work of art.
(btw, the bifilar coil might be only electrostaticly connected,
two wires wound together but not connected together)

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Magnifying_Transmitter


and, Tesla's magnifying transmitter/receiver looks a bit like a left hand transmission line,
http://www.edt.bham.ac.uk/hightemp.htm

It really does look like a left hand line here?

Secondary is source, spark gap is capacitor, "extra coil" is
inductance to ground.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/images/colora282.gif

interesting.

Cliff,
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 09, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
is fig 3 possibly the "sink"?

"it might introduce many errors, principally on account of its complex action upon the coil, as a condenser of very small capacity and as an electrostatic and electromagnetic screen"

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm#TRANSFORMER




added:

non-hertzian transmitter.
A 100 year old left hand meta material transmission line transmitter?

The Transmission Of Electric Energy Without Wires
Electrical World and Engineer, March 5, 1904

?This is, essentially, a circuit of very high self-induction and small resistance which in its arrangement, mode of excitation and action, may be said to be the diametrical opposite of a transmitting circuit typical of telegraphy by Hertzian or electromagnetic radiations?

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art08.html
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 09, 2008, 10:27:05 PM
Just some thoughts on the Linde liquid air cycle.
http://www.linde.com/international/web/linde/like35lindecom.nsf/docbyalias/page_ch_chronicle_18911934details_1

and Tesla?s comments that, that was all he needed to prove his concept.

the heat exchanger runs in opposite directions, high pressure in one.
Low pressure in the other, recycle closed system.

The Tesla magnifying transmitter coil (flat panckae tesla coil) I would bet,
Is a bifilar secondary (currents running in opposite directions),
And might even be disconnected from each other, though
Electrostatic connected together. (a capacitor as well as a transformer)

How this fits into the sink is still unknown to me at this point.

Added:
It might also be two (separate) bifilar pancake tesla coils.
Just one with disconnected bifilar might not induce current.
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 10, 2008, 07:38:49 PM
there?s a very interesting ?infinite wavelength? meta LH/RH TM line
device here.
A pure standing voltage.


http://www.pat2pdf.org/

Enter 20080001684 in the patent field.
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 12, 2008, 02:48:11 PM
Well that?s weird,

Re:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes02.htm#Colorado%20Springs%20Notes%20-%20June%201-30,%201899


First his  (very weird) zinc (can) battery. (look at the strange series connections too)

In ?EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY?
He says about his transformer and zinc, ?it might introduce many errors, principally on account of its complex action upon the coil, as a condenser of very small capacity and as an electrostatic and electromagnetic screen?

Then in the next drawing and below,
Notice the very strange plasma tube he was working on. (linear homopolar?)

And then, the tube in the middle bottom of one of his receivers,
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/images/colora274.gif

strange.

Cliff,

Added:

*Diamagnetic* (zinc) can, also a diamagnetic type of carbon? .
A regular D cell battery (not alkaline)
Is a zinc can with a carbon rod inside.
Might be too small to experiment with though, Tesla mentions a quarter
square foot for his battery (array?)

interesting,,,
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 14, 2008, 03:43:50 AM
just some more notes.
From Colorado Springs Notes,
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes.htm
invaluable!

?a principle consisting in accumulating energy of feeble impulses received from a distance and utilizing magnified effect?

what is the magnifying effect?


?In using auxiliary condensers in this way circuits are obtained containing no spark gap in which the damping factor was extremely small and the magnifying factor very great?

in regards to the ?extra coil? which frequency or multiple of, was it tuned to?
The secondary ? the primary? Or the combined both?


?It was evident that in such excitation of the additional coil there should be, for the best result, three vibrations falling together: that of the coil, that of the secondary and that of the combined system. In view of the above it is of advantage to place inductance between the secondary and additional coil to free the latter, when impressed vibration is too powerful to allow the intended vibration of the coil to take place readily.?

Inductor to ground?

?Various ways of connecting apparatus when applying condenser Method of Magnifying effects.?

Condenser method??

?so that the charging or discharging of the condenser is controlled by a sensitive device affected by the feeble effects which are to be magnified?

the ?sensitive device? is the glass evacuated tube.
The second drawing on this page, note the electrostatic battery also.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes02.htm#Colorado%20Springs%20Notes%20-%20June%201-30,%201899
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on May 16, 2008, 07:53:01 PM
a strange little tube.
i'm thinking of a xenon flash tube maybe.
x-ray caution?
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on November 08, 2010, 07:49:20 AM
ping.
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: Doug1 on November 08, 2010, 01:51:06 PM
 Tesla was a funny guy,cruel humor is still funny unless your on the wrong side of it.
 It only takes one working trick or thing.Just one. Leave it in plain sight and just enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: angryScientist on November 08, 2010, 10:54:34 PM
Didn't this spark gap configuration act as a crude diode?
The electrons tended to break away from the small diameter more than from larger diameter.
Title: Re: Tesla coil electrostatic
Post by: argona369 on November 09, 2010, 02:41:32 AM
right.  and of very high voltage and i believe of almost unlimited Hz. Thz or above.
point field strength vs low (wide) field strenght and electron vs hole.

this effect shows well with a wimshurst electrostatic generator.
positive point emission is very different that negative point emission.

also in series with a leyden, leakage would be prevented or minimized maybe.
quenching through magnets though, i would try to avoid that way ,and somehow use the "little tube" . ie plasma ionization runaway.

where is this drawing located? tesla? or just your own?

Cliff,