Well, the motor was still running when I went down to check, but voltage on battery two had dropped to 11 volts. Going to let it rest and see if it recovers. Also, the "bad" battery now has a voltage of 12.48 even though there was a light bulb connected between its terminals the whole time. I will let this one rest also, but I am afraid I have just fixed another bad battery. #&*$%!!!

Just to stay current. There are two of us working on two different setups. When we have something that we can share that anyone can repeat step by step, we will post here and at EF. Right now it is just a lot of tedious work trying different things...different loads, different batteries. I haven't found a battery yet that will do what my original setup did when I flip the switch. Still checking out the batteries I have stacked up in the basement. When I have tried them all, then I will move on to trying to replicate my original by altering a standard battery. That will be a little tricky and very interesting. Wish me luck. As is, we are able to make just two batteries last a long long, long, long, long time. SO far, when allowed to rest, they regain their charge. Don't know how long they can keep that up, but that is what testing is for. Looking at things like, can I run it on one set of two batteries with a third bad battery and then switch to two other good batteries and the same bad battery while the first pair rests and recovers. So this would take five batteries, but run continually. Working on those kinds of things.

I am building a prototype energizer out of wood with 80 coils on it. Once it is completed and I have figured out all the different places I want to have things available for adjustments, I will visit my local machine shop and have one made out of steel. I know I want an adjustable mounting shelf on one end so that I can use different sized motors and motors that come with different sizes and lengths of shafts so that I can continue to experiment with different motors that will need adaptors to connect to my energizer. I know I want to have the coils able to be easily removed so coils with different lengths of wire can be put in their place, and I know I want the coils to be able to screw in and out, to adjust their clearance to the magnets on the rotor, eliminating any small imperfections in the construction. This means the octagon shape of the device must be hinged at some point, or bolted together at two points. Attached is a photo of my construction so far with only 16 coils mounted. Sixteen is all I have wound so far, so I have some work to do to get to 80 coils, but I'll get there. I also know I am going to have to put a threaded sleeve on my rotor shaft that will fit a bearing, so I am working on that. It will need one on each end and one in the middle. For now I can just wrap the rotor shaft with pipe tape to get it to fit the bearing, but I want to be more precise than that with the machine shop version, so I will have to use a larger bearing. A perfect build would allow me to disengage a whole set of coils from the rotor, but while I have already come up with a design for that, it may be beyond my budget for right now. Maybe some day. Anyway, attached is a photo of the present stage of construction. It's not much, but I'm getting there.

Since no one here seems interested in working on this, despite the fact that we are having some serious success, we are no posting on EF at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/10610-3-battery-generating-system.html


Several folks over there are working on it and having success. The longest run we have had so far from anyone trying to duplicate my results is ten hours with a raise in voltage of the two primary batteries. So we're not there yet, but we have lots and lots of things to try.

Gentlemen,
I am returning here to post this because this is where it all started. I made my very first post about this setup on this forum several years ago. Unfortunately, NOBODY who tried to replicate it could see what I was seeing and soon lost interest. Everyone decided I was full of crap and moved on. Well, as it turns out, I was NOT full of crap. Far from it. After several long years of research we now have a stable system up and running. The longest run I have done so far is ten hours, but I have done long runs three days in a row without drawing down on my primaries. The load I am running on the system is twofold. First there is the inverter, which is only running 18 1/2 watts, which is what I need to run off the inverter to balance with the load I am running off the other half of the circuit, which is the motor. It is running another motor as generator and is pulling 11 amps at 12 volts per hour.


So if someone has an answer for how I can pull just over a hundred amp hours a day for three days in a row out of two 18 amp hour batteries and still have a full charge on my primaries, I would love to hear it. Otherwise I would submit that I am NOT full of crap and this is a working system. We are constantly changing and improving, but the basic circuit can be found here:


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/10610-3-battery-generating-system-78.html
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It is my intention to run this thing at least 8 hours a day, every day, until the primaries can run it no more. Hopefully that will be for a long, long time. I have to shut it down at night because it is in my basement, and I can't let it run all night. Fire danger, since the basement is right under my bedroom, and also NOISE. There is no insulation in these old houses, so the only thing between me and the motor running the generator is the floor boards, and my wife would not be happy with me. If you go up the page prior to the schematic, you will see a video of the run I did where I caught battery 3 reversing polarity, and I talked about the need to hit one end of the battery with the spike until it reversed polarity and then hit the other end until it reversed back. Instead, Randy found a different method....add a fourth battery,which is reversed. Anyway, it works. So if you are interested in building this setup, here is the parts list.
2 good batteries of the same kind and amp hours, either SLA or AGM.
Two bad batteries of the same kind and amp hours (don't need to be the same as the primary batteries)  that will only hold less than about 6 volts each. The "badder" the better. We are calling those the transducers. A fifth battery that is a good battery, but discharged down to about 12.2 to begin the run. This will be the buffer battery. One bifilar tesla pancake coil about 9' in diameter made with two strands of #12 wire. The end of one wire connected to the beginning of the other. Thats it. Let the fun begin


Dave Bowing

Have not tried geiger measurements, but hopefully there is no radiation here! LOL.


Dave

Here are the parts. All this is on the thread at EF.Dave

The only limits to this system are what YOU have on your bench, the size of the motor you are using and the size of the inverter you are using. Put as MUCH load on the inverter as it will run...as long as you can balance it with a load on the motor. Or, put as MUCH LOAD on the motor as it can run, as long as you can balance it with a load on the inverter. Remember, BIG loads make the primaries go down fast until you get it balanced, so be ready to do that. The they will hold and eventually recover. But start with small loads and LEARN.


This is not the end. This is the beginning. We are learning more every day and even sharing MOST of it on the forum. We want to put it all together so to speak before we dump everything out there, so hold on. It's going to be quite a ride. Lots of folks working behind the scenes on things like solid state versions, etc. Now that we understand what we've got ahold of, there are going to be some major revelations in the future. I would bet on that. Come join the fun


Dave