@FatBird,

Thanks, yes I agree. :-)

Attached is my first small humble test. I have used two charged 1,2V 2000mAh NiMeh batteries connected
to a small 1,5 Volt 2mA electric motor, connected to a 1,2V 1600mAh fully drained NiMeh battery.

The motor runs and the drained battery is slowely beeing charged.

Groundloop.

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Paul

Looks very simple and interesting .
Thanks for sharing it.

If you read my description of my first experiment again, you will see that when I first flipped the switch, NOTHING happened. The motor did not run. I sat around for 15 or 20 minutes talking to a friend, and suddenly the motor started. It ran until all three batteries were fully charged, and then it SHUT ITSELF OFF. Battery 3 slowly drained and then it started back up again ALL BY ITSELF. It repeated this cycle over and over and over for several DAYS. I just let it run. If you flip the switch and yours starts up, you know that you do NOT have a dead battery in the #3 position, so go find a DEAD one.  Until you get the system to do THIS, you do NOT have a system that will continue to charge itself and run small appliances. Eventually battery 1 and 2 will run down as you continue to draw power from them to charge battery 3. Battery 3 HAS to be a battery that will NOT hold a charge. I wish I knew why, since I believe that, and the pulsing of the motor are the two things that make this whole thing work, and finding a dead battery isn't always easy.

@Dbowling,

Thanks for the additional information.

I found the data sheet for the motor you are using. (Attached.)

I can see from the data sheet that your motor is very similar to a electric drill motor,
so I will give it a try. I'm currently charging up two of my 12 Volt 7 Ampere batteries.
I have a dead 12 Volt 7 Ampere battery that will not charge up on a regular charger
or on a Bedini type charger, so I suppose the battery is what you say, dead.

Do you have any theories why a lead acid battery is transformed into a negative resistor
when the battery is "dead" eg. heavy sulfated etc?

Groundloop.

In answer to your question I have no idea why a bad battery like this would act as a negative capacitor.
Here are the things I have actually observed.
1. With a dead battery in the system, and no external load, it will charge all the batteries to "full" capacity, and then shut itself off. How it knows what "full" is, I do not know. When disconnected from the system and measured seperately at this point, batteries 1 and 2 would read around 14 volts. Battery 3 would read the same, but after sitting for a while, would read almost nothing.

2. When a load is connected to battery 3 during the charging process, the voltages on batteries 1 and 2 increase faster and climb higher as if trying to equalize with battery 3 which is in use. Almost like it wants to put an equal amount of electricity down all three "pipes" even though only one is using any electricity.

3. Some of these same things will happen when battery 3 is just a "low" battery, but eventually batteries 1 and 2 will decrease in charge rather than increase, so eventually there comes a point where it won't work anymore.

It has been said that a battery really just acts as a gate to the energy that is all around us. Perhaps a dead battery has a constant flow of electricity through it when it is part of a circuit, but when the battery is "dead" the circuit through the battery is only complete part of the time as the motor turns and pulses the circuit. When the circuit is interrupted, (Or maybe when it is complete) energy comes into the battery from the outside and flows out during the other part of the rotation of the motor. The motor is acting as a super fast switch that allows something to happen inside that dead battery.

It sounds like you know way more about electricity than I do. I'm glad. Maybe after you finish seeing if you can duplicate what I've done, you can look at another idea I have been keeping on the back burner. It is something I got from a european patent that supposedly works, but I have barely enough knowledge to put it together. I haven't yet in fact, because I haven't assembled all the parts. Radio shack does not have them all in stock and I need to order some. Not expensive, but time consuming, and time is somewhat of a premium for me most weeks. This just happens to be a really rare week so I've been trying to get as much as possible out to people. Let me know your results. I will be really interested.

@Dbowling,

After I have replicated your setup then I can take a look at your new idea. Small steps.....

@Pese,

Please read the text again. I said "dead". This means that something is not exactly, but
pretty close to reality. Then I said >a very high internal resistance< this is on the opposite
scale of zero Ohm. High Ohm equals low current. Low Ohm equals high current.

Now let us talk about a "dead" battery. It is not just a battery. It is a device that has a high
internal resistance at very low voltage. It will climb to a relative high voltage very fast when
you try to charge it. It will drop to a relative low voltage very fast when you try to discharge it.
It is behaving more like a big electrolytic capacitor than a battery, but the internal resistance
is opposite of a electrolytic capacitor regarding charge and voltage. A capacitor has a low internal
resistance when empty, a "dead" battery has a high internal resistance when empty. OK?

Groundloop.