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Offline k4zep

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2008, 12:40:19 AM »
::)  I have been following this discussion hoping that some one would prove this and produce a known working example. I have also been following Richard Willis?s operations which is now Magnacoaster Motor  Company  www.magnacoaster.com/magna/  . If I understand his product is power over unity in operation and being sold?????  For those curious to check it out I would like to know your thoughts. I am thinking of buying the Vorkex 12,000 to run my house.  If David?s will do the same I would wait as it sounds like a less expense.

Hi,

My thoughts are:

Don't pay up front, have them ship it and payment upon proof of operation.........................If they want the money up front, shame on them, if you pay it up front, shame on you.

 At least go to "factory" and have YOUR unit on pallet ready to ship demonstrated, load  and longevity..........Question how you will maintain it, warranty on batteries, inverter, etc. Are you prepared to install, take your home off grid or wire a grid transfer switch, etc?  How about local utility, building and installation laws???????........Lot to look into here.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #120 on: July 19, 2008, 12:40:19 AM »

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2008, 01:11:06 AM »
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stefan & miki .. if you are right ... as opposed to buying & replacing batteries ...

Assuming the batteries are lead acid, and as long as none of the cells are shorted, they can be re-charged with an Energenx charger available from John Bedini for a bit over US$200 plus shipping plus tax. That removes the sulfation on the electrodes and restores them to almost new condition, as John would say. One pays a bit more up front for the battery charger, but saves down the line by having batteries which last longer ... sorry for the pitch ..Perhaps the Energenx charger can be worked into the self-running aspect of the Bowling device.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2008, 07:01:48 PM »
I just heard about this and listened to the free energy now episode about it. I hope it really works... that'd be cool. I'm wondering what could possibly be happening to keep it running though? Do you think it's related to quantum theory or something about electrons being in two places at once? Maybe it's double charging things that way? I don't know. What happened with this device?

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2008, 07:01:48 PM »
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Offline Drannom

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2008, 12:12:13 PM »
1:There is a theory somewhere in this forum telling that if you use pulsation to charge a battery, then the ionic acid will continu to flow a little bit between two pulsations

2:the other theory is there is sort of cold fusion graphit inside the little motor

3:and the theory of both 1 and 2


and a good way to keep good battery is to put some epson salt in it, then the sulfatation does not occur

anyway all of this is like a Tesla Switch

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #124 on: September 11, 2008, 09:02:27 PM »
I wonder what happened to the inventor. Suddenly he just disappeared? I wonder if it was just a hoax or if it really was real.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #125 on: November 04, 2008, 08:51:58 AM »
I have moved to California and haven't been playing with my batteries for a while. I've made lots of mistakes, including trying to use batteries that didn't work. It's been months since I even looked at this post, but I will check it from time to time. I have put everything I know here so those of you with more brains and experience can make of it what you will. I hope somebody gets something out of this that leads somewhere and remembers to keep me posted. dbbowing@hotmail.com

For those of you who have been persistant enough to stick with this, here is what I can tell you, and from the beginning.....Many of you have chimed in that you felt like you knew what the schematic I was using was, and to some extent, many of you were right.....but also wrong, because something I did was not quite as it appeared. I used three batteries and a motor, and that is all. No hidden circuits, no resistors....nothing else.  Battery 1 had it's positive pole connected to the positive pole of the motor. It's negative pole was connected to the positive terminal of battery 2. The negative terminal of battery 2 was connected to the NEGATIVE terminal of battery 3. The positive terminal of battery 3 was connected to the other leg (negative) of the motor, thus forming a complete circuit. Batteries 1 and Battery 2 are fully charged. Battery 3 is very, very, VERY low in charge. MANY people have done this experiment using EXACTLY this schematic and with no exceptional results. This diagram is all over the internet and is credited to John Bedini. It is part of what is known as the Tesla swith from what I can tell. What makes what I have done different you may ask? Well, read on.

Here is what I did differently. Battery 3 is a battery that will NOT hold a charge, even when charged with "cold electricity." If the battery TRULY will not hold a charge and is extremely low to begin with, here is what will happen. You will complete this circuit and NOTHING will happen. The motor will not start and everything will just sit there. Be patient. Wait. After a few minutes, possibly as many as 15 or 20, the charge will build up in Battery 3 and suddenly the motor will start up and run. It will continue to run for a while as the charge in the three batteries attempts to equalize. Once this gets close to happening, the motor shuts off. Wait. Wait patiently. As battery 3 loses its charge, the motor will kick back on, everything will work for a while until the charge builds up toward equalization between the three batteries, and then it will shut off again. This cycle will repeat over and over and over again....far beyond what three batteries could ever hope to produce individually. I don't know why. It just does. Try it for yourself.

This was my FIRST experiment. If you get it to work like this, you know you have the three batteries you need to progress farther. If battery 3 HOLDS it charge, go find a different battery because you have "Fixed" battery 3, but ruined it for this process.

Now I will tell you what I did that made all the difference. I connected the devices that I wanted to run on 12 volts of electricity between battery 2 and 3. (Yes, this means that both sides of the devices were connected to negative terminals of batteries.) The minute the motor kicked on (which told me battery 3 had a partial charge) I turned on my electrical devices to keep battery 3 from being charged to the point where it would shut the system down again. The hardest part of the whole experiment was making sure that battery 3 got enough electricity to keep the circuit complete (remember it's a bad battery and its life will drain out if it is not constantly fed), but not enough to reach the point of equalization (they never really "equalize, that's just what they seem to be trying to do) where it shut down the whole system. The worst thing that will happen is battery 3 won't get enough juice to keep the thing running and it will shut off. I was able to connect up an AC inverter and run small power tools and even my shop vac on the electricity I was producing without discharging batteries 1 and 2. I put many, many, many batteries into this circuit to charge them, all without discharging batteries 1 and 2.

Sorry it has taken me so long to give you all the scoop. Lots of changes in my life lately and I am not giving this the time and attention it deserves.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2008, 06:58:45 PM »
Hi David,

Thank you very much for posting the description of your circuit, I wish you the best in your new start in California  :)

I've drawn the circuit as you described (see attached) but I'm not sure if it's correct as the description mentioned "The positive terminal of battery 3 was connected to the other leg (negative) of the motor, thus forming a complete circuit." but that left the Negative of Battery 1 unconnected.  So I've drawn the circuit with the positive terminal of battery 3 connected to the Negative of Battery 1.

Please let us know if this is correct the next time you drop by.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2008, 06:58:45 PM »
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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #127 on: November 04, 2008, 09:16:37 PM »
@Goat,

I think he connected the circuit like this.

Groundloop.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #128 on: November 04, 2008, 09:41:16 PM »
Hi Groundloop

Thanks for the schematic, as I mentioned I wasn't sure about the description of "The positive terminal of battery 3 was connected to the other leg (negative) of the motor, thus forming a complete circuit." and I am glad to see you concur.  Your inclusion of the switch in between Battery 2 & 3 makes it much clearer for others as well ;D

I'll give it a try once I get proper batteries and a motor as the ones I have now are not working as planned :P

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Paul

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #128 on: November 04, 2008, 09:41:16 PM »
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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #129 on: November 04, 2008, 10:08:22 PM »
@Goat,

Did he say what kind of electric motor he used? Will a 12 Volt drill motor do?
I'm charging up two of my 12 V 7 A batteries now and will try this out.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #130 on: November 04, 2008, 10:31:59 PM »
If you read what I wrote carefully, you will see that you have the drawing correct.

" Battery 1 had it's positive pole connected to the positive pole of the motor. It's negative pole was connected to the positive terminal of battery 2. "
Maybe I should have said: "Battery 1 had it's positive pole connected to the positive pole of the motor. The negative pole of battery 1 was was connected to the positive terminal of battery 2. "

Either way, your drawing is correct. I think the key is that battery 3 is a DEAD battery which will NOT hold a charge. I charged it overnight with my charger before I began the experiments, and it barely registered on the meter the next day.

My first experiment was amazing to watch. When the circuit was completed nothing would happen, and then suddenly the motor would start up and begin to run. It would run until the voltages on all three batteries read 13 or 14 volts, and then the whole thing would shut off. In a few minutes, once battery 3 lost its charge again, the motor would kick on and battery 3 would charge up again.

Also, I did hook batteries and other 12 volt devices directly to battery 3 when the system was charging it, hoping to keep it from getting too much of a charge and making the whole process shut down again.

I used batteries from different manufacturers and ruined some of them. When I go home tonight I will post the info (I did this once already if somebody checks back) on the motor I used and the names of the different battery companies, although I think you can see that much in some of the original pictures I posted. Good luck guys. I hope someone duplicates this and we can start figuring out WHY it works.

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« Reply #131 on: November 04, 2008, 10:38:34 PM »
@Dbowling,

Thank you for confirming the circuit setup. In you picture there is a belt and a "thingy" connected
to your motor. What is the "thingy" doing?

Groundloop.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #132 on: November 04, 2008, 10:56:03 PM »
The motor was attached to a gear box to slow the rotation. There was a belt on the output of the gear box to a tension arm. At the end of the tension arm was a turnbuckle I could tighten down to slow the motor. I was experimenting with how additional loads on the motor changed the output and sped up the charging process.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #133 on: November 04, 2008, 11:08:11 PM »
@Dbowling,

Thanks.

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Re: David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device
« Reply #134 on: November 04, 2008, 11:41:41 PM »
THANK YOU GroundLoop for sharing that Great Drawing.



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