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Author Topic: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)  (Read 15707 times)

TheOne

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ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« on: August 31, 2005, 07:42:15 AM »
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Hi All,

I have developed an circular all permanent magnet track and wish to find someone willing to finance the powerfull neodymium magnets needed to turn this track into a self powered all magnet motor.

No electronics or electricity. Currently my track is constructed with "weak" ceramic magnets.  Its of a design entirely of my own.   No "TOMI" track idea employed.

I will E mail you 2 movies if interesed in financing my endevers.  I am also willing to sell all info and working model outright. Whoever takes me up on a sell offer can patent it himself.    Any takers??    Thanks,   Tom

What a joke!!!!!

Give me money to see the video yeah right, give me money for neo, Neo cost not that much.

Another poeple trying to go away with our money!

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2005, 10:20:49 AM »
@TheOne: ACK!

@Magnetman12003: What a complex Design could this be? Look at ebay. There you can get neodym magnets for a few cent per piece. How many tons you need for your design? scnr.

btw. Please post a video of your magnet track - of course without disclosing the magic secret (maybe hide it by a black bar).
Show us that you are not a con man.

Gast

Markus

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2005, 10:26:29 AM »
@ magnetman12003:

I also suggest you make the videos available here. Then we can discuss if your motor has the potential to be a real OU device.
Annotation: There are already magnet motors that seem to power themselves. But in reality they consume their magnets. It is a kind of harvesting the energy that was put in when the magnets were produced. This is not overunity.
So before you claim to have a self-running magnet motor you should do a long test and check it the magnets become significantly weaker.


regards,
Markus

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2005, 03:47:43 PM »
Convert your video in WMV format, that should decrease the size a lot, under 5mb you can post an attachment here i think.
The video should not be that big just to see the motor work.

Why all poeples making a motor or a free device hide it? if you show your device here, nobody can patent it becose the technoligies was released.

Release nothing and in 20 years nobody will remember you, your device will be in the garbage like most of the others working device.


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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2005, 04:11:06 PM »
I have 900 MByte left on my website. If you want we can upload it there.? ?

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2005, 05:45:30 PM »
No,

Did you sent them to: Markus_Rapp@a-e-r.net ?

How big are your movies ? Maybe I have to change a few setting at my mailbox.

regards,
Markus

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2005, 09:17:31 PM »

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 09:40:13 PM »
I made 3 years ago a rotor with all permanent magnet (neo) able to turn 359? quite easyly, the only problem is the final magnet, impossible to close the loop, the rotor gain speed and go quite fast but stop instantatly at the end!!

i see your video and i beleive its not possible to close the loop, even with permanent magnet, its just 180? what i see right now, far from 359?, this cannot work, you must show a complete loop to say this stuff can work.

the problem with this design is you must visualize the magnet flu like, you see when you start the with your ball, the last magnet is far from it, so the flu can attrack the ball until the end of the flu (last magnet), but if you close the loop the flu is closed, no attacktion to start the ball until the end. When you are able to visualize that, this kind of track cannot work :(



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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 04:04:22 AM »
Yes, the video is not very convincing....
The ball is just running just around only about 150 degrees, that is not very
convincing... Also it is not accelerating, but just goes sometimes back and forth...
So , there is no real acceleration...
Also you must show several times a loop to be convincing...

Regards, Stefan.

gast

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 09:43:21 AM »
Markus, it seems you have encoeded the video with an MJPEG codec. I can't play it on Win2k using Media Player Classic.
Are you able to convert this video into MPG1 or something other which is conform to a flat windows2K installation?

Thanks a lot.

Regards Gast

Markus

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 09:57:06 AM »
I didn?t modify the video in any way. I just uploaded what Tom sent me.
Ask him about the codec.

gast

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005, 03:03:09 PM »
@magnetman12003: Tom, would you convert the movie?

Gast

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2005, 03:23:43 PM »
here we go! i converted to wmv and its 1.2 meg instead of 9.5!

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2005, 03:47:52 PM »
TheOne: Thank you for the converting.

@magnetman12003: Hmm, this is a weirdly design. And also if the steelball will turn full 360 degrees, you cannot get much mecanical energy from it (I think). At higher RPMs the ball will bounce away because of the centrifugal force.

Suggestion: What's, if the steelball is fixed to a rotable "crank arm"(?) with a pivotal point in the center of your round, magnetic groundplate?
So the steelball hang closely over the round groundplate and is only able to move on an exact circle shape (without this non-linear, spastic movements the steelball performs now).

Regards, Gast

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Re: ALL PERMANENT MAGNET CIRCULAR MAGNET TRACK DEVELOPED (2)
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2005, 04:18:06 PM »
Hi,
this is a typical magnet track, where the end effects just accelerate the steel ball and roller.
If you close the magnet track to 360 degrees, all forces will cancel out.
Been there, tried that... Looks not good.
ALso your roller and ball is not really accelerating but bounces back and forth...s
so this is bad magnet track..