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Hydrogen energy => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: canada765 on April 30, 2008, 05:03:53 AM
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This was originally posted by PolyMatrix and Dr. Greenthumb was going to post a new topic here but not sure what happened to it. The original thread is here,
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3969.new.html#new
We can follow up in this new thread since it's better than the original location which was > News announcements and other topics > Half Baked Ideas
I have not checked to see if the Tibetan bowl is producing any HHO gas yet. That is the next experiment. I have one and it sure is doing something but HHO is not yet verified.
For simplicity, the original videos as posted by PolyMatrix and nightlife are here,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdOJZDWJkuk&feature=related
part 2,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CycFRkWboQU&feature=related
Edit: It's been my belief for some time that Stanley Meyer was using more than just DC pulses in his HHO generator; Was there a sound/cavitation part to his device? I think more experiments with using sound in HHO experiments are in order, anyone done anything substantial with this ?
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stan meyer did, he made his tubes resonate ant the same pitch by altering them like a church organ pipe and then used 3 frequencies in his pulsed dc to create the monotomic (singular) form of hydrogen
when most of us make the 4x less powerful diatomic form that is two hydrogen atoms that combined together, bob boyce did this also but with plates, and dave lawton did too but with tubes and a smaller version of s.m.
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Thanks for the info vdubdipr, that is most interesting. I tried it with my small singing bowl and tried to light some of the bubbles but there was no observable effect. I think my bowl is too small and what little (if any) hydrogen and oxygen being produced is getting reabsorbed into the air. I'm going to borrow a large crystal singing bowl as I think I would have a better chance of getting more of an effect.
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yeah those singing bowls are pretty cool and myself have wondered whats going on with that do you have someone else light the bubbles for you?
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Howdy Y'all,
I have an ultrasonic fountain at home and this never occurred to me. I had thought about electrically stimulating the water at a specific frequency and wave shape, but not acoustically stimulating the water. The ultrasonic fountain uses one frequency. If you here to add another 2 transducers at different frequencies, and then tune the three transducers to achieve the right resonance, or dissonance, this may work better than anything that I have seen so far. Cool!
OK, Mo Later...
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The retired TV producer in Florida who was all the rage last year splitting water with frequency has recently started talking of overunity and gone quiet [patent implied] I believe saw on ZPE or WiWi chet
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This may have been posted on another thread, I didn't look. He's using an AM radio somehow and although it seems somewhat crude he's getting some results with it when it's connected to the WFC circuitry. This was posted by Ravi but created by this guy BigFatPothead. Sound resonance seems to play a key role here but exactly how he's got it connected up I don't know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFp3CJZMTw
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sound frequency is a majior factor!!! the guy used it in line with a dave lawton curciut, that uses frequency to split ..... is ravi still posting on here? i havent seen him on here in a while!
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Guys,
Its pretty easy to determine if it is splitting water molecules. Attach a sealed top to your vessel with a tube going to a balloon. If the balloon inflates, then you are splitting water molecules. If not, then its just kewl bubbles. ;D
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either way it would inflate, the bubbles have to becoming from somewhere, the thing is is it a burnable gas such as hydrogen.........
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Sorry, but I think you are incorrect vdub,
You would be correct if water vapor remained in the atmosphere, but the amount of water that air can hold is a function of temperature and atmospheric pressure. As water would become dissolved into the air, the balloon would add back pressure on the atmosphere in the bowl and force the water vapor back into liquid form - condensation will form. the balloon would not inflate -at least not more than a fractional amount.
PS. If you can blow up a balloon by this method, try taking it outside and ignite it - preferably on a dark night. It should make for pretty kewl pyrotechnics :D
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Howdy Y'all,
Has anyone tried piping Heavy Metal into their ultrasonic transducers to try to crack the water? Something really dissonant like Slayer, or Seputura, maybe Man-O-War...
Worth a look see...
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stan meyer did, he made his tubes resonate ant the same pitch by altering them like a church organ pipe and then used 3 frequencies in his pulsed dc to create the monotomic (singular) form of hydrogen
when most of us make the 4x less powerful diatomic form that is two hydrogen atoms that combined together, bob boyce did this also but with plates, and dave lawton did too but with tubes and a smaller version of s.m.
These people used electromagnetic waves, not sound waves. I reckon
John Worrell Keely used sound, but at 42.8Khz, and also a frequency
around 600 cycles
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I have tried an ultrasonic transducer in the water cell while making hho gas with normal electrolysis. The ultrasonic waves shake the gas bubbles neatly off the plates and the current goes up a little, but otherwise I have seen no noticeable effect.
I put the transducer horizontally into the plastic container holding my steel plates. A few seconds after turning it on, I saw the plastic wall of the container melting under the impact of the water. Where the ultrasonic beam hit the wall of the container, a spot formed that got too hot to be touched. Like holding a soldering iron to the plastic from the other side. Had I gone on with the test I would have melted a hole into the container.
The sound waves emitted by these devices are very powerful. I have dropped a hand into the bowl and one of my fingers got into the beam for about a second. It started to hurt like hell about one hour later and was painful until the next day. So be warned.!
albert
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I have tried an ultrasonic transducer in the water cell while making hho gas with normal electrolysis.
The impression I get (with sound v. electrolytic) is that it is either one or the other,
but not both.
I would imagine that what is needed is two ultrasonic plates, about 0.25" apart,
in water, with the same signal going to both phased such that when the left plate
moves to the right, the right plate moves to the left. Then the water will get
compressions and rarifications, in step.
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Canada,
Check out people working on Keely projects too, the are working with audio signals.