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Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #90 on: June 27, 2008, 03:00:09 PM »
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/

mhhh maybe invate Dr. Schwartz to come here?

Zapnic (or anyone else), that sounds like a great idea! :)

I can't access my old Yahoo account at the moment (since I forgot the password
and am trying to find it, otherwise will need to make new account which I don't
really want to do, etc) so I can't contact dr. Schwartz through the yahoo group...

Can you or anyone else on here perhaps invite dr. Schwartz to join this thread?

The info he gives in the non-members section of the yahoo group (the stuff you
quoted in your posts) is quite interesting but still very vague.
From my 'research' into Tesla's work with his "Radiant Energy Shield", his
"purple plates" experiments, and (seemingly) related work I know
Tesla did many experiments with all kinds of metal wires and/or plates of
various metals, often "treated" and/or coated with one or more other metals,
which can cause all kinds of subtle effects (weak photovoltaic surface effects,
diode-like voltage bias/asymmetrical resistance effects, lowering of the emission
thershold, even increasing/decreasing/otherwise altering the magnetic field
'geometry'/'strength' when used in a coil, etc) in the right circumstances.
And he also experimented with many different types of discharge and many
different frequencies. A lot of his devices involve various harmonic oscillations,
and he seemed to be convinced of the existence of longtitudional em waves
(which of course established physics does not agree with but hey).
Some of the stuff I was personally interested in was his use of aluminium plates
which (as far s I could figure out) treated with various chemicals during his
experiments, in order to obtain a thin layer of a different element (metal) on
the surface of the aluminium plate. Or on its surface and integrated into the
surface layers of the aluminium crystal lettice, more likely. Anyway, this
is an old method I know from old 1930s electrophysics books where it is
(sometimes) mentioned in respect to its value in decreasing the emission
threshold of certain metals, but I believe Tesla figured out some other usefull
effects he could achieve by surface treating various metals.
Of course aluminium was only one of many metals Tesla tried, and from the
papers I read I got the impression it was not as good as some others...
(oh sorry, I'm ranting again ;))

Well, in any case, I am very interested in dr. Schwartz's work and would
certainly like to hear what he is prepared to divulge about his Tesla radiant
energy plate device and its underlying principles. :D

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2008, 11:47:32 AM »

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2008, 05:01:20 PM »
I'm excited to see what comes out of this interesting situation..... :o

A little note about the MIB and stuff like that.....
I won't usually say much on the internet or even discuss what I am doing. Mainly because of the people that would want to stop it. Although I am not afraid of them and will post and produce anything I able to create that actually works.


Rods producing AC??..... looks a like a tuning fork battery. The TFB!  ;D

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2008, 07:05:59 PM »
somes that i found 2005 over this (german)

its are 73 an 74 DIFFEREN elemts molten in the rods

it was talken from neutrinos !
in night time , an little bit lower efficence (i remember)
sp thas are longer misteriosly.

here my (recovered) notes
30004   21.07.2005        ,Trier G.Pese
30004   ----------
30004   Habe ueber franzoesische GOOGLE Seiten eine recht seltsame Geschichte
30004   entdeckt von der weder deutsche noch englische Texte berichteten , also
30004   nicht "wahrgenommen" wurde. Es handelt sich um 2 Staebe vondenen einer
30004   (angeblich aus 73 verschiedenen Materialien besteht , der andere aus 74,
30004   ausser Schalter und Kondensator (und den ca 18cm Staeben ist nicht enthalten.
30004   /2 Videolinks , sind in hier unter Nr # ..... hinterlegtem Text enthalten.
30004   Die Rede (Video) war ueber Neutrionen , 24 Stunden Energie , durch Umsetzung
30004   des Sonnenlichtes, wie auch Kosmischer Strahlung.
30004   Explizit wurde die bekannte Tesla-Erfindung von 1901 erw?hnt , NUR dass
30004   hier im Gegensatz keine Metallplatte (beschichtet) gegen ERDUNG
30004   (ueber Kondensator) arbeitet sondern HIER die 2 Elektroden /aus unterschiedl,
30004   Material.  Da Teslas Erfindung dahinzielte dass die Platte Neutrionen
30004   (oder Positronen ??) anzog und die "ERDE" den "Gegen-PART" . Ist hier
30004   lediglich eine "Weiterentwicklung" des Japaners , die "funktioniert"
30004   Da bereits ueber blossen Antennedraht statische Energie aufgefangen wird
30004   (100 Volt pro Meter ??) Waere es interessant ob nun POS oder NEGATIVE Soannung,
30004   respektive ob nicht durch andere Auswahl genau 2 gegenpolige Spannungen erzeugt
30004   werden koennen , da in Kosmos anscheinend Positronen und Neutrieonen vorhanden
30004   sind.  Die ist fuer mich von Interesse um hier die Arbeit des Japaners
30004   besser nachvollziehen zu koennen.
30004   
30004   Seiten sind unter $fe80  aufrufbar  /S6/   
www.translate.ru


30004   

Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #94 on: July 14, 2008, 11:09:50 AM »
Great pese,

but I guess you missed the quote from dr Schwartz where he says
the story about 73/74 elements was just a ruse?
;)

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2008, 12:35:02 AM »
Great pese,

but I guess you missed the quote from dr Schwartz where he says
the story about 73/74 elements was just a ruse?
;)
Jes possibly (i also think so), but from the jap. inventor  to save his
knowledges. BUT that say: 73 74 hase nothing zo do with the "tabele of elements"
Pese

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2008, 01:52:31 PM »
Hi,

I’m new to the group. The reason that I joined is because someone told me that this is the best alternative and free-energy group on the net. My partner and I are always on the lookout for the elusive Free-Energy Device that really works. I was really surprised to see Dr. Schwartz’s ERR Technology being discussed in the group. My company is very familiar with his research.     
I first met Dr. Schwartz back in Jan. of 1998 when my wife and I went to the Philippines to visit her parents. While we were there her father asked if I would like to go with him to a lecture at the University of the Philippines. The lecture was about alternative energy given by Dr. J. B. Schwartz from the Noah’s Ark Research Foundation. The lecture started at 8 am and ended at 12 noon. During the whole four hour lecture Dr. Schwartz powered his public address system, an old 17 in. black and white television and two 100-watt light bulbs. He spoke about many different kinds of alternative energy but the one that I was most impressed with was has Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver that he was powering all his equipment with. At first I was skeptical about his ERR as he called it because it looked too small and light to be used to run all his equipment.

His ERR device consisted of two rods which I believed to be nano-tubes, two copper coils on two very strong magnets about an inch or more apart, a complicated looking circuit board, a small DC volt meter and some three prong electrical outlets all mounted on a thin piece of plywood. At the beginning of his lecture I noticed that the reading on the voltmeter was reading 15.4 to 16.6 DC volts and after four hours later it was still reading the same.

I asked him if the ERR could be moved from the table to another part of the room and still produce power. He agreed and unplugged his pa system and allowed three people from the audience to carry the ERR, the television and the inverter to different parts of the room and it didn’t seem to affect its power output at all. We were also allowed to examine the table and it proved to be a light-folding table. I found no source of power other than the ERR itself. The only thing that I found to be strange was when I used his metal ruler to test the magnets; I accidentally put the ruler across both magnets and the power shut down. Dr. Schwartz seemed to be a little upset because of the difficulty pulling the metal ruler off the magnets. After the ruler was removed the power came back on. When I asked him why the power went off he said that I shouldn’t short the magnets because it could damage the unit. He seemed irritated with me so I didn’t persist any farther. 
         
After his lecture I asked him if he could meet with my company to talk about possible investment in his ERR technology but he didn’t seem too interested in taking to investors.

Soon after returning to the US I was able to convince my partner that it would be worth it if we donated $100,000 to the Noah’s Ark Research Foundation. About a month later the money was returned to our bank. After many emails Dr. Schwartz replied, “I don’t except money from investors.”
I figured that he was pissed at me because I shorted his unit. I later found out from a source in Arizona that he’s financially well off plus he’s a save the world freak and a very difficult person to work with.

My partner thinks that he must have been transmitting the power from outside the room and picking it up with his ERR but I don’t think so. He also thought that he made bank interest on our money before he sent it back so I checked with Dr. Schwartz’s bank and they said that no interest was made on our money. They said that they had instructions from Dr. Schwartz to return the money to the sender and that he didn’t give any reason.
 
For several years I hadn’t heard much about Dr. Schwartz’s ERR until 2003 when I went to Japan to see a device at the University of Tokushima. After seeing both Dr. Schwartz’s ERR back in 1998 and the one at the University of Tokushima in 2003 I’m now convinced that both are using the same basic technology.

The professor was not much help as far as answering my questions. It seems that the university is keeping most of their research a secret. When I asked him about Dr. Schwartz’s ERR he acknowledged knowing about it from a demonstration given by Dr. Schwartz to a group of Japanese scientist in Tokyo. After he learned that I had met with Dr. Schwartz and seen the ERR he quickly cut off our meeting. I could tell by his voice that he don’t like Dr. Schwartz, in fact he spoke for at least a minute or more but all my translator said was “I no think he like Dr. Schwartz”.
 
One of the students that I met there told me that professor Akamatsu had tried to get Dr. Schwartz to join their research project but he turned him down.

Everyone that I talked to said that Dr. Schwartz is a real strange person and he doesn’t trust anyone; it’s not easy to gain his trust.

While I was in Japan I also checked on a group of Japanese that had setup a research facility in the mountains because I found out that Dr. Schwartz worked there back in 2005. When I tried to find out more about the facility it seems that Dr. Schwartz had quit because the Japanese investors wanted to sell has ERR technology to the government and not for public use.
 
After a little more investigation I was able to find out more about his ERR Company that was closed down apparently by the Japanese Government. It seems that the government pad locked his factory and warehouse because they claimed the 300 and 900 watt ERR units were not safety tested by any agency such as UL and they considered them dangerous. Over sixty thousand of the ERR units were destroyed and the case against Dr. Schwartz’s Company was dismissed. I think I understand why he doesn’t trust anyone.
     
I had the Japanese newspaper article about the University of Tokushima’s research translated into English so that I could include it in this post.

Japan Economic Newspaper June 3, 2002
Carbon nano meter tube utilization
Solar cell generator developed by the university of Tokushima

Professor Akamatsu of the University of Tokushima and JGS Co. a venture enterprise (Tokyo, Bungkyou and President is Mr. Jin Kitamura) have jointly developed a new type of the Solar Cell generator using carbon nano tube. They confirmed basic capacity with 8 percent conversion efficient to electricity as early stage.

They say there are rooms to improve the efficient to overcome that of the existing solar battery.
Carbon nano tube has a capability to emit electrons out of its tip when energy is given from outside. They made a system consist of two rods faced on each other a nano tube array on the carbon wafer and a stainless receiver rod.

They tested 3cm by 3cm tow rods placed in the 5cm diameter, 10cm height glass bottle Distance between two rods is 0.5mm. They succeeded to extract 7.5percent of solar energy as electric energy.
The conversion efficient can improve to make a uniform of nano tube array in a direction and distance between two rods short. The existing solar battery using silicon semiconductor is mainly used blue part of the light spectrum to convert to electricity. But this one can use the broad band of the spectrum from UV to far infrared. JGS Co. estimated they could get 4-5 times more efficient than that silicon type solar battery.

Tim


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"
I've been looking for a dedicated Tesla group and unfortunately it's
not easy to find. I joined one group called the
teslainformationexchange@yahoogroups.com started by a guy named Neal
from The International Tesla Institute. It turned out to be nothing
but a  and Spam group that was disgracing the name of Tesla. Our
Atty. Is trying to find out who this Neal guy is. It's good to know
that I finally found a group of real Tesla fans here at USA-Tesla.

I'll start by answering Bert and JB's questions.

I am quite interested in the research you describe. In particular, can
you provide more information about the actual theory and operation of
your magnetic generator? Any closeup photos of the unit?

I posted a drawing of the flat electromagnetic panel in the group
files. I used four special Aluminum alloy plates that are 1/16th of an
inch thick by 11 ? inches wide by 7 ? inch high and placed three
1/16th inch Bismuth sheets between the Aluminum plates. Then I used
two very powerful flat permanent magnets (3''X3/4''X1/8'') attached in
the center of the plates. A special gold plated wire that is coated
with clear insulation is used to create a coil to flex the magnetic
field of the magnets. A special frequency generator is used to induce
a series of alternating frequencies to create a flow of electrons when
activating the magnetic field. We are presently experimenting with
replacing the Aluminum and bismuth with different material such as
Magnesium, Beryllium and graphite which has been showing better output
than the Aluminum and Bismuth.

I put some good photos of our prototype #8 in the group photos.

Question
This device appears to be related to the "elemental rod generator"
that was previously marketed in Japan by the ERR Company. In a
translation of the Japanese marketing documents, the inventor is
appears to also be a Dr. Schwartz from the Noah's Ark Research
Foundation. Are these units being offered for sale today?

Answer
Yes, this is related to the Rod Generator. That video was taken in
1988 by a friend of mine who came to visit me in the Philippines. His
video cam was stolen from his bag on his way back to the US so who
ever posted that video is still a mystery. Because he was planning on
showing the video to some people in the US we decided to say that one
rod contained 73 elements and the other 74. That was only to confuse
people so that they wouldn't know how really simple the rods were. I
considered my first Rod Generator a toy that needed a lot of research
and testing.

Back in 2002 my board of directors talked me into marketing small Rod
Generators to help poor countries. We pooled our money to set up a
small manufacturing plant to build our Rod Generators. We were
planning on selling them at cost to help do our part to save the world
form the Oil Companies. A week later we got a notice from the Dept. of
Energy in Japan that required the Rod Generator to be safety checked
by their laboratory before it could be sold in Japan. It took them
almost six months to test it before we received notice that it was
unsafe for public use. All the units that we had already manufactured
plus our jigs and dies had to be destroyed. That really hurt me and my
partners because we put a lot of money into that project. Since our
wife's told us not to put money into the Rod Generator we now have to
live with the old "I told you so". At least we learned a very
important lesson, I will never try to market one of my ERR generators.
When I have finished my ERR research and I fully understand how it
works, we plan on posting it on the internet. My board of directs and
myself are the ones that fund all of our Noah's Ark Research
facilities so we have no investors to account to.

Since I do a lot of lectures at different Universities we decided to
keep the big business interest and the people from the oil companies
from trying to figure out my new ERR. They like to send their people
to take close-up pictures so they can study my prototype but it won't
do them any good because we only use a small portion of the circuit
board that you see in the photos, the rest is just for show. We're
making sure that OPEC and the powerful companies don't patent my ERR
technology to keep it from the people.

Question
An earlier prototype version is apparently being demonstrated here ?
are you the demonstrator in these videos?
http://video. Google.com/ videoplay? Docid=-635987818 295327978
http://video. Google.com/ videoplay? Docid=-429834766 9641896403

Answer
Yes, this was prototype #7 that I used in my lectures at the
University of the Philippines. One of the students that attended my
lectures more than likely posted it to Google Video since many like to
take videos and still shots.

As you can see in the video I used a special flat panel alloy instead
of the rods. The big problem with prototype #7 was too much
fluctuation in output plus burned out components in the controller
that stabilized the electromagnetic field. Our latest prototype #8 is
the one that I posted in the group photos. Even though this one seems
to work very well it still needs a lot of testing.

Question
Do you have much trouble getting that "electromagnetic briefcase"
shown in the video at the above link onto airplanes when travelling?

Answer
Yes, the first time that I tried to take prototype #7 on one of my
lectures outside the country I got stopped by the airport security
because the electromagnetic field interfered with the x-ray machine.
It caused static on their screen. The inspectors were afraid because
they didn't understand how it worked. Because the unit was capable of
putting out a great deal of power without any batteries they were
afraid that it might be radiative. After x-raying it several times and
using a Geiger counter to check for radiation they finally allowed it
to be checked in only but not in my carry-on bag. I don't have any
problem with my latest ERR because it doesn't interfere with their
x-ray; it just looks like a metal plate with a circuit board when they
see it on their screen so they don't bother to ask me to open my bag.

Question
Re: The "left hand rule" anomalies you mentioned, I have noticed
variations or odd things about written about it by people in the
Northern Hemisphere vs the Southern Hemisphere in the assortment of
Electrician' s text books

Answer
The left hand rule is a very interesting research. We have noticed
many variations in our experimental coils at our facility in India
compared to the coils in Japan and the Philippines. It's best that I
don't go any farther on this subject because this could take hours and
twenty pages of text to explain. And the truth is that after all that
explaining you would be very confused. I'm even confused myself
because we are sometimes having difficulty replicating some of our
experiments. As we learn more about this theory I will post it. This
is much better because then I won't look like a fool trying to explain
parts of our theory that is still not fully understood.

Thanks for the information about photobucket, I'll check it out.

Our Foundation is planning on building a world class Tesla Museum, we
could really use any good ideas or thoughts that you might have. We
are presently setting up a planning committee.

And thanks again for the warm welcome; I look forward to a long and
lasting relationship with the group.

Dr. Schwartz (or just Ben will do fine)"

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/



mhhh maybe invate Dr. Schwartz to come here?



Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2008, 02:55:58 PM »
Thank you for your story, Tim! :)

This is quite interesting stuff.
I dislike using Yahoo and no longer have an account there so I cannot join
the Yahoo group, but I would like to attempt replication...
Or at least, I would like to know more about the setup, how it works,
and how we can make a version (or a device to similar effect).

Could you perhaps suggest to Dr Schwartz that he visit this forum
if and when he has a chance, so he can share his knowledge
first-hand? 

In any case, welcome to the forum, and I look forward to reading more
on this interesting subject. :)


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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2008, 10:23:20 AM »
I would like to inform any members that have tried to email me at powertechnology@live.com or powertechnology1933@live.com  that these email addresses was hacked and they changed our password which locked us out. I was unable to get any assistance from Windows live.com so I had to setup a new email address which is newpowertechnology@yahoo.com Who ever hacked into our old email accounts was really good, they were able to completely lock us out. They even changed my secret question and answer so I couldn’t change it back. We’re pretty sure that it was one of our employee’s at our Asian office.
   
Anyone that has sent mail to my old live.com address please resend it to my new yahoo.com at newpowertechnology@yahoo.com Please resend all the email that you sent to our old address. 
Tim


Hi,

I’m new to the group. The reason that I joined is because someone told me that this is the best alternative and free-energy group on the net. My partner and I are always on the lookout for the elusive Free-Energy Device that really works. I was really surprised to see Dr. Schwartz’s ERR Technology being discussed in the group. My company is very familiar with his research.     
I first met Dr. Schwartz back in Jan. of 1998 when my wife and I went to the Philippines to visit her parents. While we were there her father asked if I would like to go with him to a lecture at the University of the Philippines. The lecture was about alternative energy given by Dr. J. B. Schwartz from the Noah’s Ark Research Foundation. The lecture started at 8 am and ended at 12 noon. During the whole four hour lecture Dr. Schwartz powered his public address system, an old 17 in. black and white television and two 100-watt light bulbs. He spoke about many different kinds of alternative energy but the one that I was most impressed with was has Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver that he was powering all his equipment with. At first I was skeptical about his ERR as he called it because it looked too small and light to be used to run all his equipment.

His ERR device consisted of two rods which I believed to be nano-tubes, two copper coils on two very strong magnets about an inch or more apart, a complicated looking circuit board, a small DC volt meter and some three prong electrical outlets all mounted on a thin piece of plywood. At the beginning of his lecture I noticed that the reading on the voltmeter was reading 15.4 to 16.6 DC volts and after four hours later it was still reading the same.

I asked him if the ERR could be moved from the table to another part of the room and still produce power. He agreed and unplugged his pa system and allowed three people from the audience to carry the ERR, the television and the inverter to different parts of the room and it didn’t seem to affect its power output at all. We were also allowed to examine the table and it proved to be a light-folding table. I found no source of power other than the ERR itself. The only thing that I found to be strange was when I used his metal ruler to test the magnets; I accidentally put the ruler across both magnets and the power shut down. Dr. Schwartz seemed to be a little upset because of the difficulty pulling the metal ruler off the magnets. After the ruler was removed the power came back on. When I asked him why the power went off he said that I shouldn’t short the magnets because it could damage the unit. He seemed irritated with me so I didn’t persist any farther. 
         
After his lecture I asked him if he could meet with my company to talk about possible investment in his ERR technology but he didn’t seem too interested in taking to investors.

Soon after returning to the US I was able to convince my partner that it would be worth it if we donated $100,000 to the Noah’s Ark Research Foundation. About a month later the money was returned to our bank. After many emails Dr. Schwartz replied, “I don’t except money from investors.”
I figured that he was pissed at me because I shorted his unit. I later found out from a source in Arizona that he’s financially well off plus he’s a save the world freak and a very difficult person to work with.

My partner thinks that he must have been transmitting the power from outside the room and picking it up with his ERR but I don’t think so. He also thought that he made bank interest on our money before he sent it back so I checked with Dr. Schwartz’s bank and they said that no interest was made on our money. They said that they had instructions from Dr. Schwartz to return the money to the sender and that he didn’t give any reason.
 
For several years I hadn’t heard much about Dr. Schwartz’s ERR until 2003 when I went to Japan to see a device at the University of Tokushima. After seeing both Dr. Schwartz’s ERR back in 1998 and the one at the University of Tokushima in 2003 I’m now convinced that both are using the same basic technology.

The professor was not much help as far as answering my questions. It seems that the university is keeping most of their research a secret. When I asked him about Dr. Schwartz’s ERR he acknowledged knowing about it from a demonstration given by Dr. Schwartz to a group of Japanese scientist in Tokyo. After he learned that I had met with Dr. Schwartz and seen the ERR he quickly cut off our meeting. I could tell by his voice that he don’t like Dr. Schwartz, in fact he spoke for at least a minute or more but all my translator said was “I no think he like Dr. Schwartz”.
 
One of the students that I met there told me that professor Akamatsu had tried to get Dr. Schwartz to join their research project but he turned him down.

Everyone that I talked to said that Dr. Schwartz is a real strange person and he doesn’t trust anyone; it’s not easy to gain his trust.

While I was in Japan I also checked on a group of Japanese that had setup a research facility in the mountains because I found out that Dr. Schwartz worked there back in 2005. When I tried to find out more about the facility it seems that Dr. Schwartz had quit because the Japanese investors wanted to sell has ERR technology to the government and not for public use.
 
After a little more investigation I was able to find out more about his ERR Company that was closed down apparently by the Japanese Government. It seems that the government pad locked his factory and warehouse because they claimed the 300 and 900 watt ERR units were not safety tested by any agency such as UL and they considered them dangerous. Over sixty thousand of the ERR units were destroyed and the case against Dr. Schwartz’s Company was dismissed. I think I understand why he doesn’t trust anyone.
     
I had the Japanese newspaper article about the University of Tokushima’s research translated into English so that I could include it in this post.

Japan Economic Newspaper June 3, 2002
Carbon nano meter tube utilization
Solar cell generator developed by the university of Tokushima

Professor Akamatsu of the University of Tokushima and JGS Co. a venture enterprise (Tokyo, Bungkyou and President is Mr. Jin Kitamura) have jointly developed a new type of the Solar Cell generator using carbon nano tube. They confirmed basic capacity with 8 percent conversion efficient to electricity as early stage.

They say there are rooms to improve the efficient to overcome that of the existing solar battery.
Carbon nano tube has a capability to emit electrons out of its tip when energy is given from outside. They made a system consist of two rods faced on each other a nano tube array on the carbon wafer and a stainless receiver rod.

They tested 3cm by 3cm tow rods placed in the 5cm diameter, 10cm height glass bottle Distance between two rods is 0.5mm. They succeeded to extract 7.5percent of solar energy as electric energy.
The conversion efficient can improve to make a uniform of nano tube array in a direction and distance between two rods short. The existing solar battery using silicon semiconductor is mainly used blue part of the light spectrum to convert to electricity. But this one can use the broad band of the spectrum from UV to far infrared. JGS Co. estimated they could get 4-5 times more efficient than that silicon type solar battery.

Tim



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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2009, 10:36:36 AM »
Re: From JB Schwartz......on fluxing left handed materials

Noah's Ark is building a new ERR changing from a 2 coil plate to a 6
coil plate. It will still be at least two months before the new
prototype is ready for testing. I'm posting some photos for members
of the group interested in our research.

JB

--- In OneSmallStepForMan@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Rayburn"
<lawrencerayburn@...> wrote:
>
> For many years I have been experimenting with new materials that
> support electromagnetic wave propagation in ways that are not
> observed in nature. Other research teams around the world are doing
> similar experiments that also backup this theory. I have been able
to
> create materials that support this type of effect for light and
other
> electromagnetic waves. Even some physicists are starting to
challenge
> what was thought to be the basic laws of nature. Many of the hard-
> nosed skeptics are finding it increasingly more difficult to
disprove
> the left-hand rule.
>
> In nature, all materials seem to obey the right-hand rule. The
> fingers of the right hand represent the waves of the electric
field,
> and when you curl the fingers around to the base of the hand, this
> represents the magnetic field; the outstretched thumb indicates the
> direction of the flow of power
>
> Back in 1968 a Russian theorist; V.G. Veselago had predicted that
new
> materials could be engineered to interact with our environment,
which
> is just the opposite of how natural materials react. In 2000,
> researchers at the University of California-San Diego (UCSD)
> confirmed this, creating what's known as the first "left-handed"
> material. A special team at UCSD created material that caused
fields
> to move to the left even though the electromagnetic energy moved to
> the right. The light waves produced in this material also produced
an
> inverted Doppler effect. Researchers at MIT and the University of
> Delaware, is also exploring left-handed media.
>
> I'm now discovering that the things we held to be inviolable can in
> fact, be violated under certain conditions. Many research teams are
> already able to build structures that support this theory.
>
> Much of my research over the past few years has proved that these
new
> kinds of materials can cause different affects when it comes to
> magnetic fields. I'm already using left-handed material in my ERR
> (Electromagnetic Radiation Receiver) experiments. I've proven this
> theory with my ERR prototype. Lawrence Rayburn has also proved this
> theory with his left-hand wound coils. Even though some of us have
> proven the left-hand theory, no one seems to want to admit that we
> have disproved one of the sacred laws of nature.
>
> You'll find the drawing of my special experimental magnetic flux
> field in this document. Two very powerful permanent magnets
attached
> to a newly created material with coils on each magnet made of a
> special alloy. A special frequency generator is used to induce a
> series of alternating frequencies to create a flow of electrons
when
> activating the magnetic field. Since it is still in the
experimental
> stages, no additional information can be released at this time. I'm
> releasing the drawing in hopes that it might encourage some people
to
> do their own experiments in fluxing a magnetic field to get a flow
of
> electrons without moving the magnets. Trust me, it can be done.
>
> Some additional information that will be helpful is to attach the
> magnets to the material you're using so that you have a strong
> attraction between the two magnets but without them being able to
> touch. It's best to use four inch long powerful bar magnets with a
1¼-
> inch space between the north and south poles of the magnets. (The
> distance between the two magnets will depend on how powerful they
> are). You will have to experiment to get the maximum flow of
> electrons. Attach the first magnet to your board and before
attaching
> the second magnet, place a piece of wood 1¼-inchs thick so that the
> two magnets don't attract each other. If the magnets you are using
> are very powerful you could easily injure your fingers if they get
in
> the way.
>
> Some more helpful information would be for you to join Lawrence
> Rayburn's yahoo group (onesmallstepforman@yahoogroups.com) and
study
> his TREC research.
>
> The secret is in the material used, the size of the wire and the
> number of turns plus the frequency and how you alternate that
> frequency. There are many combinations that will allow you to get
> small amounts of electrons to flow. As my research progresses I
will
> be releasing more information. The amount of information that can
be
> released will depend on our board of directors at our research
> facility.
>
> The knowledge that you will get from studying and experimenting
with
> magnetic flux fields will help you later as we release more
> information. Don't be afraid to discuss your experiments with the
> other members of the group, but most of all, don't get discouraged.
> If you keep a happy attitude you'll enjoy your experiments and
you'll
> be more likely to succeed.
>
> Just remember that solutions don't come from the traditional way of
> thinking, because then it would be impossible.
>
> Side View: Bismuth sandwiched between aluminum layers
>
>
> 16 volt DC Fluctuating
>
>
output
> Frequency
>
Input
>
>
> The two red wires are where a special alternating frequency is
> induced to create a flow of electrons when activating the magnetic
> field. I'm presently experimenting with replacing the Aluminum and
> bismuth with different material such as Magnesium, Beryllium and
> graphite which has been showing some very positive results.
>
> In certain situations, it may be useful to use the opposite
> convention, where one of the vectors is reversed and so creates a
> left-handed triad instead of a right-handed triad.
> The best example of this situation is left-handed materials.
> Normally, for an electromagnetic wave, the electric and magnetic
> fields, and the direction of propagation of the wave obey the right-
> hand rule. However, left-handed materials have special properties -
> the negative refractive index. It makes the direction of
propagation
> point in the opposite direction.
> De Graaf's translation of Fleming's left-hand rule - which uses
> thrust, field and current - and the right-hand rule is the FBI
rule.
> The FBI rule changes Thrust into F (Lorentz force), B (direction of
> the magnetic field) and I (current). The FBI rule is easily
> remembered by US citizens because of the commonly known
abbreviation
> for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
> Electromagnetic Force is the force that the electromagnetic field
> exerts on electrically charged particles.
> *******************************************************************
> There is a fourth vector. In the first two vectors you get electron
> flow packets of energy travelling opposite directions, the third
> vector carries the right angle magnetic field in both directions,
but
> the fourth vector is carrying 'plasma'
> packets of gravity and time in both directions. The fourth
vector
> is what balances the universe and keeps it from flying asunder. The
> vectors exchange energy to balance by conversion at resonance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lawrence



Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2009, 04:01:04 PM »
Interesting post... thanks for posting it Zapnic :)

So what I piece together from these quoted posts is,
that it is claimed that besides the "right hand rule"
which is observed and was assumed to be the only
rule in nature, there is what these guys refer to as
the "left hand rule" which as they say does not occur
normally in nature but is not impossible, just rare.

What I don't follow is how exactly this "left hand rule"
which would actually appear to be not so much a "rule"
but rather a rare exception to the "right hand rule",
is used to pull an electron current directly from a set
of magnets.

It is mentioned that this can only be done using "new
materials" that have this abnormal "left hand" characteristic,
and though the author is acting very secretive about
these materials he does mention that apparently successful
experiments have been done using Bismuth sandwiched between
Aluminium plates, and mention is also made of (a combination of?)
Magnesium, Berylium and Graphite (Carbon).

So what exactly are they doing with these materials then?
It is mentioned that a "special" frequency generator is used to produce
"alternating frequencies", and these somehow have an effect on the
setup of Al-sandwiched Bismuth in combination with two strong
permanent magnets that are placed in attraction to eachother,
and presumably "stuck" to the Al-Bi sandwich.

This is, unfortunately, not at all a clear description of what we must
imagine is going on in the sandwich, nor does it help to understand
how the "left hand" effect plays a role in this.

If anyone is willing to offer a bit of a more lucid explanation as to
how this "left hand" anomaly can be understood as a method to
produce energy output, I would be very greatful, and I imagine so
would a few others here. :)

Kind regards,
Koen

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2009, 09:11:07 PM »
okey same old picture

its was part of that text

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2009, 11:14:10 PM »
What Bismuth and graphite have in common is they both have high Diamagnetic properties.
Which means they produce an opposing magnetic field to the one they encounter.
So if you bring a North pole magnet near a piece of Bismuth it will put out a north pole field to repel it.
And it must be graphite, regular carbon doesn't work.
So I can see how this could be involved in some new left hand rule of magnetism.
But this is the first time I have heard of this new concept too. 
Will have to do some research on this topic.

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2009, 02:49:52 PM »
What Bismuth and graphite have in common is they both have high Diamagnetic properties.
Which means they produce an opposing magnetic field to the one they encounter.
So if you bring a North pole magnet near a piece of Bismuth it will put out a north pole field to repel it.

Yes, but didn't we need to cool the Bismuth to a very low temp to get that effect?
I've made a magnet float over a piece of Bismuth but only after pouring some liquid
nitrogen over the Bismuth, and all the videos of other peoples similar experiments
also use very cold Bismuth...

But certainly worth looking into some more.

I wonder how exactly this is related to the electron spin...
Is it that the coils "core" now reflects the magnetic field back,
so that the field inside and outside the coil is the same
(and not opposed as in a normal coil), and this allows for pickup
of the permanent magnets flux, which otherwise is not possible
because of this opposition of the coils inner and outer field
lines?
I'm just guessing here. ;)