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Offline newbie123

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2008, 04:15:43 AM »
I am guilty of being one of "those" who laughed at the thought of MIB contacting an everyday person just because of an invention. I don't laugh about that anymore. It's not funny anymore!! (for me, at least) Therefore, I have tolerance for those who think that MIB are a myth.

JustRite,  sounds like you're full of BS.    Why did you post here? Just to make up stories and rouse interest in something that is most likely a hoax? Or just to say you know something to draw some attention to yourself?


The easiest way for "MIBs" to keep a technology from spreading, is by coming onto the internet and making up stories about MIBs killing inventors, threatening people, etc...

 













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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2008, 04:29:39 AM »
@JustRite.......chances I am willing to take for the sake of humanity :-)
Also......I can sneak this through production and into a million homes
before MIB's are any the wiser!

I have money, I have friends with much more money.  I have thought long
and hard about implementation, and I can assure you none of my ideas
include permission, patents, or permits from any government, agency, or
local authority.

I know how the system works, and asking permission from ANYBODY is
the quickest way to kill any free energy device.

If your friend need a million bucks to "disappear", I can also arrange that!

What more do you need????  Are you actually for real?????

Bobo



Offline amigo

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2008, 04:31:54 AM »
The way I see it is that those who create things in the current world climate are not willing to go all the way. When I say all the way I mean see it through even at the cost of their life. Most people have families they are taking care of and would rather spend a few more days on the Earth "with the loved ones" than dying at the hands of some corporate fascist assassin, paid to do the dirty job for some unscrupulous corporation that exists above the law.

But, not willing to see it through and go all the way only shows how selfish, petty and small minded these people really are, aside from their "genious" for inventing or discovering something that could and would help billions of people in a way. Ego is a powerful enemy and one not to be underestimated.
Selfless acts are far and a few in today's world and no one should hold their breath for a saviour of any kind - whether it is some magical being that walks on water, or in this case an inventor of some free energy device coming through. Therefore, we should not tuck our head between our legs and wait for someone else to do something, no one will help us but ourselves.

What this world needs is a cold reboot. Earthlings need a huge kick in the butt for they have had it easy for many many moons now and have forgotten how they got here, or where they are going even.

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2008, 04:43:02 AM »
@JustRite.........one more thing.......each of the million units produced
would also include step by step instructions on how to duplicate, in
terms so simple even a first grader could understand!

@Amigo.......I hear you brother!  Seems like everybody has an excuse
for everything these days :-)

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2008, 05:53:04 AM »
To post a "how to" pdf would be a waste of time.  Half of the people that ever see it would find a reason to discredit it before they ever build it.  All but one of the other half wouldn't even try and just file it away in case their insatiable urge for drama needs another episode.  So, one in a million would actually benefit from you putting your ass on the line, and you become a martyr.

People like Bedini have a much better approach.  You slowly, release the info to a few and the info stays quiet. Eventually the measly "one in a million" is using the technology, and no one gives a rat's ass.  Energy Mongers still get rich - techies get the goods - and the cattle stay in the pasture.

If you build 100's of devices that are purported to generate more out than in and none of them work, then look in the mirror for the 'common problem'.

Hmm - carbon rod with a polarized coating might do the trick...

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2008, 07:19:08 AM »
@grumpy

You wouldn't become a martyr. It would be a waste of time for the MIB's in question if you are right, as they would also know that you are going no farther. Most, like you say, would either laugh and discredit (general science). Some would build though (avid researchers). For instance, look how many have built otto's rig from a pdf......

The trick is posting where it will be desired. Who cares about the scoffers anyway? ( For instance, I dont care if I am laughed at. It demonstrates their lack of understanding. I do not have a "reputation" to lose.... Who here really does? )

Paul Andrulis

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2008, 09:14:17 AM »
JustRite,  sounds like you're full of BS.    Why did you post here? Just to make up stories and rouse interest in something that is most likely a hoax? Or just to say you know something to draw some attention to yourself?


The easiest way for "MIBs" to keep a technology from spreading, is by coming onto the internet and making up stories about MIBs killing inventors, threatening people, etc...


@newbie123
You are right on all counts. I have been found out. I am full of BS and just made up the story. It was all a hoax just to draw attention to myself. Oh, and about the MIB, that is just a myth also. Disregard it.

I'm gone.....

Offline Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2008, 11:06:37 AM »
Great.

The story is a bit dodgy... after all, the "elemental rod" device
was advertised for sale by a Japanese company a few years ago,
which does not seem to accord with your suppression story...
Ok, in the mean time it has vanished from the market again, but still it
seems odd that a tech suppressed by the MIB in the US, where it
was invented according to your story, yet still found its way all the way
to Japan before it was apparently suppressed once again... Does it not?
So the MIB allowed the invention to slip to Japan and even reach the stage
of advertising for direct marketing by a commecial enterprise, while at the
same time keeping it under wraps in the US?
Either really inefficient MIB or some really sneaky spy-game inventor?

And the inventor must have spent quite some time researching and constructing
the rods, which needs specialised equipment...
He must have known when he started it that it would revolutionise the energy market,
and he must have known of govt agencies that try to keep too revolutionary developments
under wraps for their own benefit? You can't be such a brilliant inventor and yet be so
terribly naive not to have considered those...
Yet he chose to spend years working on the subject.
Seems to me that after all that work and having finally achieved the holy grail of free energy,
and having been aware of such agencies, he would have attempted to get the info and
prototypes out there in such a way that it would not be suppressed by the MIB so easily...
After all, his goal was to make such a device. Not for the MIB to lock it in a safe, nor I presume
solely for his own financial gain (for in that case he could have invented something more commercially
attractive and less problematic in regard to the MIBs), but presumably also largely to help
humanity take anoher step in the development of a sustained and civilised future.

To, after all those years of work and final success, decide to just leave it be and take it to your grave
seems extremely contradictory...
Of course it is possible the MIB gave him "an offer he can't refuse" with the choice between a nice
shiny piece of high velocity plumbum or a bunch of million bucks and never having to work ever again,
as long as you keep your mouth shut...
But then still I would like to know how the tech got leaked to Japan, if it was invented and suppressed
in the USA?
 

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2008, 05:00:33 PM »
bye jack

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #69 on: June 19, 2008, 09:23:08 PM »
@Koen1
Did I miss something? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but after seeing information on different websites and the videos on YouTube about the "rods," I don't recall anything specifically saying that the inventor of the "rods" ever lived in the U.S. I would assume that MIB could appear anywhere in the world.

Offline Koen1

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2008, 12:08:40 AM »
Well if you look at the top of this page, you'll see a post by JustRite
in which he says he knows the inventor...
... and he doesn't sound very Japanese to me. ;)

But indeed it could be a Japanese inventor...
Although it seems unlikely to me that the MIB would
allow Justrite to meet with the inventor and test the rods
before they went and suppressed it in Japan even...
I would think that the Japanese branch of the MIB would have
picked up on it long before news ever reaching the US...
...but maybe that's just me... ;)

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2008, 01:12:54 AM »
To post a "how to" pdf would be a waste of time.  Half of the people that ever see it would find a reason to discredit it before they ever build it.  All but one of the other half wouldn't even try and just file it away in case their insatiable urge for drama needs another episode.  So, one in a million would actually benefit from you putting your ass on the line, and you become a martyr.

(snip)

Hmm - carbon rod with a polarized coating might do the trick...

Hello All,

Grumpy said it well.  Someone has already posted how something works and no one believes it, and everyone ignores it and goes on their merry old experimenting ways.  It is downright sad.  And then the moans come.... It is a Greek tragedy.  Funny if not so sad.

@ Grumpy
I definatly agree, that both rods could be carbon.  There is a thread here at OU about some interesting experiments with carbon rods.  I'm sure you also have seen it.  (Those reading can look it up.  Search "carbon".)  Interesting stuff.

Cheers,

Bruce 

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2008, 04:32:52 AM »
I totally agree that posting a how-to document to a bunch of orthodox scientists or alternative energy researchers would be an utter waste of time. These are the people who do not wish to believe, know, or see it happen because they live for the thrill. The first ones for the skepticism and debunking, and the later ones for the urban legend stories.

With the orthodox scientists, they obviously do not want anything changed because they will lose cushy positions of tenure and millions (billions) of dollars in grants for the research that leads nowhere. Meanwhile, the alt. energy researchers mere existence is based on the search, never ending continuous quest, where goal is always at a hand's reach away but never graspable. They do not want the quest to end for that would be the end of them and the end of the thrill.

So, the plans need to be disseminated to normal people, the iPod carrying, SMS texting teens and all of the minions of the corporate world using laptops. When they do not need to recharge their devices EVER again *they* will let everyone know, and this kind of viral marketing cannot be stopped. You will see it on Facebook, YouTube, and elsewhere and the "damage" will be done regardless of MiBs coming to get you or not...it would be irrelevant at that point.

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2008, 06:10:53 AM »
The inventor of the rods said 73 elements in one and 74 in the other.

There are not 73 or 74 metallic elements...only 40+ and only 100+ elements total.

I suggested carbon with some additive and quartz and some unknown polarizing coating - why?

Radiant energy is much like light.  More like light than electricity.

Smoke on that for a while...

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Re: elemental rod
« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2008, 10:33:11 AM »
@grumpy

You know, this just reminded me of that Huchtison dude, and his batteries. You may be familiar, I do not know.

What gets me is his descriptions. You could tell that anything he actually came across, was sheer accident, as he had less than a clue about pretty much everything he worked with. (I have watched and seen much from him.) However, his technique is BOUND to get some results.....

You mess around carelessly enough, long enough, with enough power, with no knowledge of what to do right OR wrong, and you will stumble over something. ;D (Or it will stumble over you.)

Anyway, I remember a video of him making an "earth battery", or some such. If I remember correctly, his approach was to look for various rocks, smash them with a hammer, cram them in a can with a rod in the center, bake them in an oven, then charge them with high voltage.

I remember the rocks he picked up were quartzine from the look of them in the video. (I used to be a rockhound as a kid.)

If the rod were carbon, you would have a carbon rod coated (surrounded by) with pseudo quartz (quartz, with other various minerals).

I wonder.

Paul Andrulis