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Author Topic: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC  (Read 21381 times)

Diode

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Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« on: April 24, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »
Has any one built or tried a device like this?
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/RadiantEnergy/LawrenceRayburn/index.html

The text does not elaborate on the proposed technology. Seems scalable up or down.

scraven

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 04:03:19 PM »
I think Dr Meyl Konstantin built something very similar to this....

(quote from http://www.k-meyl.de/go/65_Sekundaerliteratur/NASA-Advanced_Energetics_for_Aeronautical_Applications_Vol2.pdf)
(page 34)

3.4.3.4 Dr. Meyl's Personal Tesla Coil Experiments
Dr. Meyl describes how he personally constructed and experimented with a small-scale version
of a Tesla flat ("pancake") coil in 1995 (Ref. 33, pp. 405-407). By adding:
? a spherical electrode (approximately 6 in. in diameter);
? a spirally wound flat Tesla Coil (approximately 4 in. in diameter);
? a two-turn coil to electrically couple to the outer turns of the flat coil; and
? an old interleaved metal plate variable capacitor (formerly used in broadcast radio
receivers)
to the input of an oscilloscope, Meyl could readily receive, detect, and analyze scalar wave
signals originating from (unspecified) sources of interferences and distant thunderstorms.
Compared to what he had learned in his prior training and expertise in electrical engineering,
Meyl stated that he was totally surprised at the large magnitude of the scalar wave signals
displayed on the oscilloscope screen. Meryl also stated that he and his colleagues had to repair
their oscilloscope several times due to scalar wave energy spikes that had entered the equipment
but were too brief to be visually observed on the oscilloscope screen.

I think thats the most realistic interpretation you're likely to find. 

Diode

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 07:41:21 PM »
From Rayburn's text, it seems his device was somehow coupled to the Earth's charged ionosphere. Maybe his device tapped the 7.3 Hz earth field or just harmonically coupled with the 60 Hz field emissions in our power grid. The device seems to be more than a reverse Tesla coil.

duff

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 10:48:40 PM »
I did a lot of research on the TREC some years ago and here's what stopped me from pursuing the project any further.

Lawrence had a electrician friend/coworker by the name of Barry Theodore who lived in Australia and had worked at the Firestone track with him. Barry was suppose to replicate the TREC in Melbourne.

It is my understanding that when Barry visited the Lawrence's farm sometime after a lightning strike damaged the TREC on March 3, 2004, that he refused to take Barry out to the garage where the tuner was located and when Barry looked out the window toward the garage, he saw nothing there to indicated there had ever been an antenna there.

Lawrence has never posted any pictures nor given specific details as to how to build the TREC.

-Duff
« Last Edit: April 28, 2008, 12:26:55 AM by duff »

Diode

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 03:37:33 AM »
The TREC, if you read the posts..has morphed from a coil and capacitor (Tank circuit) and tuning coils..into some complex array of bifilar coils, regular coils, oscillators. Maybe it's tapping thunderstorm harmonics, electrostatic potential( in dry areas of the country only) or coupled to the 60 Hz power lines nearby. Maybe the design is so easy, once seen, he won't describe it at all!

Diode

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 03:07:04 AM »
Can the TREC be a variation of a reverse Tesla type coil?

duff

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 07:46:30 PM »
The TREC, if you read the posts..has morphed from a coil and capacitor (Tank circuit) and tuning coils..into some complex array of bifilar coils, regular coils, oscillators. Maybe it's tapping thunderstorm harmonics, electrostatic potential( in dry areas of the country only) or coupled to the 60 Hz power lines nearby. Maybe the design is so easy, once seen, he won't describe it at all!

Perhaps I should be more blunt.

It has nothing to do with how the TREC has evolved. The POINT is Lawrence CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

In view of the above information, it is HIGHLY doubtful he ever had a working model.

Take it for what it's worth!!!

Diode

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 03:10:54 AM »
I did a lot of research on the TREC some years ago and here's what stopped me from pursuing the project any further.
Lawrence has never posted any pictures nor given specific details as to how to build the TREC.

-Duff
Using a variation of Plauson's Patent.with a tank circuit, spark gaps, step down transformers do you think a TREC type device can be made and tested to light more than a few LEDs?
 
I have difficulty testing any device like this because the trees around my house are very tall, I'm at the bottom of an electrostatic well so to speak.

duff

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 05:10:41 AM »
Diode,

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from experimenting with the concept of the TREC. It's a great concept.

I just don't feel Lawrence ever had a working model. I spend around a year trying to replicate it before I read the post about Barry Theodore's visit. That pretty much destroyed any belief in Lawrence.


Plauson's Patent. - using balloons?
Your thinking of replacing the balloons with the TREC spirals?

I think your mixing two different principles.
The TREC creates an ionized path to the ionosphere.
Paulson take advantage of the electrostatic field and voltage differential above the earth surface.

That makes me think about Tesla patent 685,957 - APPARATUS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF RADIANT ENERGY

I tried a few simple experiments using an elevated plate and a 51,000 uF cap and it did slowly charge the cap. I intended to try the same experiment again using a small high voltage cap thinking the charge rate should be much faster but I never got around to it. The charge rate seems to be directly related to the size of the plate and the sun - maybe UV radiation level.

Also the patent states the plate should be insulated but mine was not. It was a simple aluminum plate about 1 foot square.


-Duff

Edit: Correction - I used insulated purple plates.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 05:01:10 PM by duff »

Diode

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Converter-TREC
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2008, 02:15:12 AM »
I tried a flat plate collector 18"x 24" aluminum sheet between two plexiglass sheets sealed with silicone sealant. This was hooked to a 35v 32,000 mfd cap. I tried a 3kv .002pfd cap also. I was not happy about the charge rate either.

The other design was somewhat based on Lawrence's TREC description, 20 inch flat spiral hooked up to various caps. I tried different air-coil tuners(step down air transformer). !0' post with the antenna on top. As mentioned in my other post I have very tall trees nearby..I think they rob my electrostatic field!