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Author Topic: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC  (Read 8305 times)

Offline MASSINISSA

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Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:46:31 PM »
Hello
The Aharonov-Bohm effect  showed the existence of the potential vector A, the question that tapped me the spirit since a long time is: how to pull energy of this potential one Eather?
I have grouped  below some studies and experiences to unmask physical demonstrations of this potential :

1)  Aether control via an understanding of orthogonal fields by Rick Andersen  http://gravitation.org/Start/Experimente/Aether%20Control%20-%20Orthogonal%20fields.pdf
2) Toroid coils and Vector Potential by Telos  www.rafoeg.de/20,Dokumentenarchiv/30,Wissenswertes/,Gravitationstheorien/Telos_Experiment.pdf
3) Telos' toroid coil experiment replicated by David Mason (CTG Labs) http://www.ctglabs.com/teslos1.htm
4) Jean-Louis Naudin's A-Vector Toroid Tests  http://jlnlabs.imars.com/vpexp/
5) Tests Verify A-Vector Gravitational action by Jerry Bayles http://electrogravity.com/AVectorTest/AVecEGOK.html
6) The Motional Electric Field by Nils Rognerud http://www.electrogravityphysics.com/html/sec_2.html 
7) The Moving Charge Sensor circuit designed by Thomas B. Jones http://www.ece.rochester.edu/~jones/demos/ahern.html

The usage of two toro?dales coils of different radius produces magnetic fields to the exterior of the coils while normally the field B must confine itself inside these coils. 
The losses of confinement are conceivable but have slight beings, therefore how to explain the ejection of a metallic bar placed inside these toroids? 
The document of Rick Andersen "Aether control via an understanding of orthogonal fields" finishes by an entitled schema "A difference in aetheric pressure create a partial vacuum an may generate lifting force" : I humbly think that can be a base for developing a true and effective procedure of conversion of the field of the Eather in free energy. 
Thinking about the usage of the alternate current instead of the DC used in these experiences; I ask this question to the researchers: can have to perturb more the Aether while injecting alternate current in two coils toro?dales so as to collect more energy of the interior and exterior one of these coils?  The more of energy will come of course of the conversion of the field A, the energy will not come from anywhere and the principle of conservation of the energy would be respected.
 I simplified this 'crazy idea' in the picture accompanying this post, I will have liked to carry out the experiences myself to be able if necessary to readjust the mounting, use more troids to form a conical one almost closed to the summit, tension and the intensity of adequate current to the input, but for lack of means I no longer can do than the fact to publish.  I wish that you excused me for this breach. 
Summarized of the procedure:
 Input: 
Two coils toro?dales of different radius powered in AC. 
Output: 
1) Coils 'B' inside the air gap of the coils toro?dales, the form U of these coils allows reducing the effect of the law of Lenz (producing scalar waves? according to Bearden the scalar waves perturb the field of the Aether: therefore this mounting will be more effective). 
2) Coils 'A' to the exterior one coils toro?dales, equally for the type coils 'B' these coils allow the passage of current of a direction on a spire and of inverse direction on the other spire, being given that the spires are very near of each one other: the back EMF will be reduced to see annihilated. 
A big question remains without response:  The currents induced in the coils 'B' and 'A' will they have a tension and an intensity that surpass (Over Unity) those injected in the toro?dales coils? 
Such are my reflections on A-Field, I hope to collect your opinions on this subject.  In any case I will pass to experimentation as soon as I will have obtained the necessary means.
I am not pretentious, I wish just to bring my small contribution to the domain of the free energy.
I think equally that it is necessary to do simpler than the MEG, Steven Mark, Perendev, ? and give all the outlines free. 
I have a big hope and an immense consideration for the anonymous researchers that exchange their plans and the results of their tests free on internet. 

Cordially
MASSINISSA

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 05:41:44 PM »
Very interesting,
do you have make experiments with these ideas?

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 09:21:58 PM »
MASSINISSA,

just furthering your ideas and giving you a potential idea...

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 09:21:58 PM »
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Offline MASSINISSA

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 01:51:21 PM »
Hello

Thank's Altium for your encouragement, i have not make any experience with this idea but il will try this as soon as i will have un AC generator and oscilator. I hope also that others whose have the necessary means expriment this idea.
For Tao, thank you for your idea but your schema is like the TPE.
I think that the vry important idea is : PERTURBING ATHER FIELD BY SCALAR WAVES PRODUCED BY THE COLLECTOR COIL INSIDE THE TOROID.
Also the difference in radius between the toroids may create a vortex which envelopp the toroids themselfs.

I hope that many experience will be conduced with toroids of different radius arranged to form a conical shape.

Regards
Massinisa

Offline MASSINISSA

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 02:15:41 PM »
Sorry Tao, with TPE I means the TPU of Steven mark

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 02:22:04 PM »
Hello all,

@MASSINISA

TAO nailed it with the TPU.

2 toroids are OK but they can have the same diameters. What AC frequencies want you to use?

Otto

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 02:48:31 PM »
Hello
I think Otto that the frequency are about 50 htz, the device works like a transformer.
But the wo toroids will have different radius, this difference in radius its important that create the diffrence in the gradient pressure of the aether fields enable to harness his energy.
I think that anulating Back EMF by coils in the form of UUUUU and producing scalar waves with this configuration of the coils are the key of producing excess energy : what do you think about this? I have wrong?

Ps: Excuse me for my bad English it is not my maternal language

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 03:32:14 PM »
Hello all,

@MASSINISSA

what do you mean with "scalar waves"??

Otto


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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 03:08:10 AM »
scalar energy is created, when you cancel out 2 same magnetic polarities.

such as forcing the negative poles of 2 magnets together.


or have 2 wires with the same polarity conflict, like this:

<------ +
 + ------>


people say lots of things about scalar energy.
including that it cannot be detected by normal electronics. but can be felt by the nervous system.


vibrations have been said to GREATLY increase the feeling of the scalar field.
such as attaching a small 9 volt motor to a scalar coil.

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Re: Energy from Aether : toroidal coils powred with AC
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 03:08:10 AM »
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