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Offline exxcomm0n

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2008, 10:55:01 PM »

@ Archer Quinn

As we get nearer the date, i will ask each of those who are contributing good and bad to email me<snip>

I'm not sure on which side of the fence you may view me. ;)

Ok to further illustrate why i need understanding not reverse engineering, 90 percent of everything you think you know you are programmed to believe, not by some evil plot, but by the pure nature of evolution, we can not all have done everything, so we take the word of the people who have, this is programming. to say man landed on the moon is programming, they may have they may not have, i was not there so i do not know this to be fact, and therein lies our greatest downfall, trying to unlearn what we have been taught using skills we have learnt from trial and some that we have simply been told, and trying to work out what is genuine fact.

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so for the guys who have put in so much work to date, you are thinking tooo electrical, go back to the magnets, pulling over great distance is not optional, magnetic fields are quite small, and where a field is huge enough to reach the bottom of an arm, you missed a basic in your theory, it would spread in all directions including the generator itself and the axel.

also where a device uses total electricity, equality of power production usually follows as you keep pointing out to each other, but any invention where one half of the power is self provided with no use of electricity there is a gain. and electromagnet pulling an object will use all the power the object can generate quite true, there can be no over unity there. but where one half of the field is not provided by the electricity then things are different, if one is a permanent magnet it requires no power for half of the effect, and all your calculations of required energy go out the door. Slow down a little you are doing great.


Archer, sorry if I've offended with my speculations, but the only way I can see to change a conditioned thought is to question it and use puzzles like these to find out how.

I'll keep my musing private, but I can't say I'll stop having them. :D

I look forward to June 20th!!

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2008, 10:55:01 PM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2008, 10:56:54 PM »
HE"S teaching us  im in school  if this was released yesterday i would be in the dark   i need the time to learn his device in small steps I also like  a chance to think about the change [world ] needs a little time for thought  maybe he's doing it for dopes like me    Thanks Archer   Chet

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2008, 11:21:47 PM »
exxcomm0n, I did not take Archer's comments as criticisms of your "musings," but rather as additional hints.  Please don't keep your musings to yourself.

I am intrigued by your idea.  I like it that no electricity has to be transferred into the wheel itself.  What if the upper magnet were a permanent magnet, rather than an electromagnet?

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« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2008, 11:21:47 PM »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2008, 11:43:28 PM »
sorry guys i was reacting to D 911 about moving and Dissin Archer not necessary  he takes care of himself just fine no offence D911 everyones invited  im certainly not looking to censor anyone either [not that i could]    Chet

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2008, 03:40:22 AM »
it was hinted above, about the "weights" moving through the tube, as its turning, and the angle of incline decreasing as the wheel turns...

we should make note that as this occurs the "top end" of the tube is moving to a lower position.
in essence, decreasing the maximum work-force imparted by gravity. Yes it does lower the height needed to move the weight, but also the height the weight may fall.

so for all intensive purposes, there is a limitation on the angle of incline at the moment the weight moves, such that the "top" position of the weight is in the upper quadrant of the circle.  below 2-3 o'clock - the total graviational energy available to us would be somewhere between squat and diddly-pit.

so the weight has to move from a->b in less than 1/4 of a rotation, at the given RPM of the wheel.

that is if we are to truly circumvent any portion of the circle in attempts to reduce the total path-length of the weights on the 'up-stroke'
This will allow us to utilize the full 'arc' around the down-side of the wheel to provide motive force.

Ideally, the weight's "top" position would be at aprox. 12:15 for maximum recovery of the gravitational field.
However, the mechanism, as it was described thus far - seems to place it a little further down the wheel.
at least thats what i gathered from reading Quinn's vague description.


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Re: Roll on the 20th June
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2008, 06:20:36 AM »
@ Dgraphic911

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Move it again, stick it with the other electric motors for now, until we find out its actually telepathic energy then move it to half baked ideas. Show it or kill it. Get this thread outa here so the rest of us can get back to working on improving the basic building block that all OU will be based on.



It has been quite a while since I looked forward to Santa coming.  Dgraphic911, you post such a bully statement, I am under the distinct impression you've either practiced being an azzhole or are just naturally good at it.  Either way I wish to look forward to June the 20th with the same excitement as I did Santa, if the date comes and Santa doesn't arrive... no problem, I've been an adult for a long time.    You should try it sometime... being an adult I mean.

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These forums are filled with numerous dead ends and potential workable concepts.  I would love to know by what authority you speak for all of the individuals working on projects, especially since there is no bonafide working overunity device.  At least by Overunity.com s standards ----->see the the prize section.  And please enlighten me as to what the "basic building blocks over OU will be based on".  Magnetism? Hydrogen? Gravity? Zero Point Energy? ect...

Men In Black, Big Oil cartel, Illuminati, Spooks or whatever you wish to call them will find all sort of ways to try and curtail any advancement that threatens their interests.  You are no different then any of them if you have nothing productive to contribute.  The advancement in all of these areas are part of our natural evolution in the area of innovation.  If Ray Kurzweil's futuristic concepts on The Singularity holds any truth in fact ... our progress in these areas will continue whether a few knuckle dragging apemen beat their chests or not.

To Archer:  Go ahead, keep opening the package piece by piece like a gift should be opened.  I am certain that you (The Mighty Quinn) expect us to "shake the box" every now and then, trying to figure out what's inside.

Good work to Chet and others... I enjoy reading all of your ideas.

Later    ;D






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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2008, 07:25:43 AM »
 
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Sitting on top of the giant Chas Campbell Wheel replica, theres a much better view from up here


It is true that using a permanent magnet in combination with an electro magnet consumes half as much power as using two electromagnets.

This does not mean that you have 50% extra energy to play with. it just means that you cut your Losses in half.


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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2008, 07:45:56 AM »
so lets seeeeee..... a rod placed from 1 to 7 and a cheap way to move the iron/or what ever it is... a small way for as less energy as possible, maybe there is an attraction at 1, and the poles are changed at 7 to repel ?, would only need to on for a blink of a sec to move the weight ?, i have no clue really im just spelling it out as i might see it in basic form.

or.. maybe even forget the rod going from 1 to 7 and have it so one a small/short rod of steel or iron(/shrug) is attracted enough to move and put the wheel out of balance so it turns and then at 7 there repelled,....in small but precise movements and the timing might need to ajust as it picks up speed( now im dreaming its picking up SPEED!, so ill stop here).

..../shrug..

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2008, 07:59:13 AM »
we could have a magnetic rod,  and a generation coil from 3 to 7, where it ties into an electromag in repulsion, to kick the rod up so the opposite end is at 1  and starts the cycle over.

or , for simplicity and timing, have several mags around hte wheel, that are passing the coils, at the sme time magnets are passing the electromag, and being repulsed upwards.

so it just stays imbalanced always.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2008, 08:59:50 AM »
What Quinn is talking about is a centrifugal gravity, magnetic, device that is self sustaining capable of producing energy without fuel or outside input.

He has not made any claims of OU or send me money.

His history on the internet that some site as a detriment I have not seen any Puff presented of fraud or maleficence or legal action. But as often happens here, PERCEPTION trumps reality,

SOME of what he has stated in his posts and on what he has posted on his website I have verified to be true. excluding his diatribe/about his other issues.

My point here is everyone here should feel free to accept or reject information that they find here without trashing the source .

No one should hold the source accountable for failure of their replication
on information provided by others especially when the replicator varies the paramiters of  the source information .

Quinn has not yet provided us with complete information, Yet some have   dissed his information without Prof when he clearly stated he would present the full text on 20th of June.

Get a grip here, IF the man is not able to substantiate his claims then  he will be labeled as a fool and a charlatan for all to see.

On the other hand might be right.

Be well

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Offline The Eskimo Quinn

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2008, 10:24:49 AM »
evening all, i have to say that between all the posts you pretty much have it with only one part missing. so i will give you most of the secret.

Now the only post that was wrong, back the front kind of wrong was smokey, this has nothing to do with previous discussions. if you need ten amps of electricity to move a particular weight of say 10 pounds 3inches, and you now only need 5 amps, you have indeed reduced your losses, but even the skeptics admit power in equals power out, so the wheel that produces ten amps from an input of 10 amps is even and no over unity (you may as well plug it straight into the wall), but remember the power is not from the magnets but the gravity and the falling weight that turns the wheel, so the wheel in revolution produces ten amps, but now the use only requires 5 amps, that in no way stops the wheel from doing exactly what it always does, produce 10 amps. and that gentlemen is the secret to the wheel.

The construction component you will have to wait for is the key part you all keep missing and last time i tried to remind you, you had missed it, it turned into a shit fight. So to reiterate true physics, satellites are propelled by gravity, as they are continually falling at the same speed and trajectory as the curvature of the earth hence the reason they "cannot hit the dammn thing" until the orbit decays to below the curvature of the earth. if you can work out what that means in terms of propelling the object through the tube along the combined thought on this thread you will get it. i even gave you a clue in this.

very impressed, students none and teachers all, so why couldn't you get this far before??? perhaps Isaac actually wore black??? what you think you know and actually know change the more you get off your ass and try things and not just talk about them.

clever wanna be thought smart people will tell you the sky is not blue at all, if you wanna get technical, there is no sky at all, if there is you are standing in it, not looking up at it, for no science ever derived the atmospheric layer that would be "the start point" of the sky, but logic says if it is what we perceive is the sky, and what we perceive is an optical illusion, then to say "the sky" blue or otherwise is false.

I live in a world where the sky is blue and the grass is green, who gives a shit if it should not be!! people can't fly either according to Newton, oh that?s right we "now believe in aerodynamic lift, well got a new one for ya Isaac baby it's call reverse gravity.

2 clues now and the last. will start uploading new photos tomorrow night.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #101 on: May 01, 2008, 12:06:32 PM »
REVERSE  GRAVITY  I can't find that in my book !!! But I like it   kinda catchy phrase    Chet

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #102 on: May 01, 2008, 01:24:43 PM »
well it was a little lame really, i was trying to give you a clue :)
i suppose i could just have said that when i first thought of the falling satellite being driven by the gravity yet unable to fall due to the descent rate arc being equal to the arc of the earth, i was looking at an image of the satelites revolving from above the earth, and realised gravitational pull can exists from either side of a circumfrence when you are on earth.

will be uploading a photo shortly, to this site alone. it will not appear for some time on the website and more than likely only on the download when the mechanics which achieve what you have almost worked out to the letter are revealed.

will the photo help?? i doubt it :) but it is a crucial part of the system completed in adavnce of other components needed first (was just in one of those moods to make one of the more detailed and flashy looking components)

I think it will drive you insane, but hey, i don't want the cat out of the bag too soon, a mass production around the world will be the best impact, not an individual. to that end i will not be speaking to anyone for around four weeks after it is running so as to give it a chance to be built by those waiting for all of it as i would have.

anyone know how to paste a photo? i'll just copy and paste and see what happens, i don't want it as an attachment., give me a few mins.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #103 on: May 01, 2008, 01:37:34 PM »
You can insert a picture via the IMG tag, when you press this small picture icon above the input form field.
But then the image must  be already on a server.
So it is basically just a link to a picture that is displayed in your posting.
Hope this helps.
Looking forward to see the exact principle you base your ideas off.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #104 on: May 01, 2008, 01:38:09 PM »
tried, attached as photo as large as the sire would allow

 

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