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Author Topic: Roll on the 20th June  (Read 1325693 times)

Offline infringer

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #180 on: May 03, 2008, 05:40:56 AM »
Satellite effect = Kicks another motion preformed by attatching the tubes to the wheel with springs so that there is a hesitation before the wieght falls so the weight will fall behind so the tube will still fall yet remain attop untill the other reaches the critical point then presto it falls and pulls the next one up...

Or possibly the rod actually extends out thus giving tons of pull from 1 oclock to 7 oclock

or a vairation of both but thinking magnets I know this thing must either extend or bend in order to work...

If not you got me I aint to great with a lot other then creative thinking... And shame is I dont have much room or tools but on the 20th I guess I will have to find a way I wish the wait wasnt so long...

To the inventor:

This question is eating at us all Why the 20th of June 99.9% of us not in it for profit will not attempt a build untill the item is ready for production as we dont have money to waste... But anyhow you take care ...

If you need a 7th person with access to tons of storage and whatnot to keep your information from being suppressed I'm game !!!

And I'll assure you that no data will be leaked untill that date either as per your request!

-infringer-

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #180 on: May 03, 2008, 05:40:56 AM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #181 on: May 03, 2008, 06:05:51 AM »
Archer would mounting the wheel across the centerline, in a vehicle mounted device negate most of the inertia issues.  Most of us here in the states drive forward or backwards ??? BUT THEIR ARE EXCEPTIONS.......SCRATCH SCRATCH.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #182 on: May 03, 2008, 06:27:37 AM »
The brain burneth w/ concepts today.

And I still haven't read much. Placement of the magnets has been buggin me.

8 o'clock might be good for a repelling electro-magnet. An attracting permanent magnet at 1?

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #182 on: May 03, 2008, 06:27:37 AM »
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Offline oak

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #183 on: May 03, 2008, 06:32:05 AM »
Archer said (4 posts up): 

"go back to the basics, imagine you have already got your environment, your balanced wheel, you have already magically found out how to get the wheel to turn itself (or waited until the 20th) what could make moving the weights easier or cut your load down, would a planet with lessor gravity help? or can you do that here in a fashion?"
[end of quote]

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OK now that's an interesting hint.  How about we fix the repulsing electromagnet at 7 o'clock, and fix a permanent magnet (stator) at 1 o'clock, facing in attraction to the approaching magnet-on-a-rod-inside-a-tube.

And let's say the permanent magnet by itself is not enough to jerk the rod out toward itself, but in combination with the pulse of the repulsing electomagnet (180 degrees away), it will.  Thus it requires far less energy to move the rod assembly toward 1 o'clock than using the electromagnet by itself.

One possible problem, however, may be that the permanent magnet stator will want to continue to hold onto the rod-in-a-tube rather than let it continue on its way, so there will be some drag.  But since the magnets would be pulled apart somewhat sideways to each other (by the rotational motion), rather than directly (face from attracting face), perhaps it will not matter too much.  It might be that angling & placing the stator magnet "just so" in relation to the tube end's direction of travel will minimize the unwanted grab.

Edit to add:  I just saw exxcomm0n's post just above; maybe it's a fine idea -- I haven't studied it -- but what I'm talking about in my post is with the three tubes (each containing a rod-weight-magnet assembly) fixed to each other in asterisk fashion.  It is interesting however that we both suggested a perm. magnet at 1 o'clock.)

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #184 on: May 03, 2008, 06:50:30 AM »
Wait........

A pulse @ 8:00 and a permanent at 12:00?

The permanent doesn't have to be of enough power to fully attract the magnet rod, just enough to help the "reverse gravity" (forward momentum) keep the satellite (magnet ended rods) from touching the earth (gravitational force downward).

The loss of momentum from break away shouldn't be too bad.

That last post from Archer really helped!

I think that could work!!!! Maybe.

Now I have to build one.

Archer, I bet you still have a bunch of tricks up your sleeve. ;)

Thank you for the lessons sir!

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #184 on: May 03, 2008, 06:50:30 AM »
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Offline oak

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #185 on: May 03, 2008, 07:01:55 AM »
Yep exxcomm0n that was an interesting hint.

I am going on a trip in a few hours for four nights, & will be camping some on the trip, so I may not be checking in for several days.  I have ten dollars (U.S.) for anyone who gets one of these gadgets up & running while I'm away.   Can be big or small.   ;D   Good night everyone.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #186 on: May 03, 2008, 07:31:54 AM »
>>>>>I nicknamed the machine the way i did for that reason, otherwise i would have called it the fucking fluffy bunny slippers happy ending machine.,,...<<<<-- im guessing Quinn said this.

the FFBSHEM is still a kool name too  :P

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #186 on: May 03, 2008, 07:31:54 AM »
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Offline The Eskimo Quinn

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #187 on: May 03, 2008, 11:31:30 AM »
main site updated now

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #188 on: May 03, 2008, 12:14:26 PM »
main site updated now

Looking good but one question.

You state "do not build at this at this time just had the stainless rod and weights etc ready for the download, the arm length is crucial to the rods."

Will all the correct dimensions be released on the 20th or will it be guess work off the pictures?

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #188 on: May 03, 2008, 12:14:26 PM »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #189 on: May 03, 2008, 12:18:38 PM »
Hello!

I just want to say, everithyng it was said about the Mr. Quinn and June 20th revelation is JUST A SWEET DREAM. Seeing the development so far, it will most probably not come into fruition.

Please, prove me wrong.? I would like to be wrong on that....

Just in case someone is interested, i would like to see you all look at the "Museum of unworkable devices" by Donald Simanek, and as an addition, maybe Hans-Peter Gramatke's site? It would be helpfull if FE begginners would read that first... Skeptics views (the fairest you can find).... Basic physics against perpetual motionists in the most tolerant FE fashion you can find... No kidding.?!

This way we could be spared of "false Newtonian physics", etc.

It's really annoying to listen to the accusations about how Newton was wrong all the way... Mind you, his 'laws' are still the basics descriptions of the nature of our world we're living in.

Regarding the sattelites (natural or artificial), they're there, and  they all operates mostly in the Newtonian manner... And there's a few hundreed years of development... And the alleged 'gravity wheel' has not much in common with the sattelites...

Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #190 on: May 03, 2008, 01:03:56 PM »


Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

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We might read in a book that are not written yet.

but you have the old ones only.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #190 on: May 03, 2008, 01:03:56 PM »
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #191 on: May 03, 2008, 01:10:02 PM »
Hello!

I just want to say, everithyng it was said about the Mr. Quinn and June 20th revelation is JUST A SWEET DREAM. Seeing the development so far, it will most probably not come into fruition.

Please, prove me wrong.? I would like to be wrong on that....

Just in case someone is interested, i would like to see you all look at the "Museum of unworkable devices" by Donald Simanek, and as an addition, maybe Hans-Peter Gramatke's site? It would be helpfull if FE begginners would read that first... Skeptics views (the fairest you can find).... Basic physics against perpetual motionists in the most tolerant FE fashion you can find... No kidding.?!

This way we could be spared of "false Newtonian physics", etc.

It's really annoying to listen to the accusations about how Newton was wrong all the way... Mind you, his 'laws' are still the basics descriptions of the nature of our world we're living in.

Regarding the sattelites (natural or artificial), they're there, and  they all operates mostly in the Newtonian manner... And there's a few hundreed years of development... And the alleged 'gravity wheel' has not much in common with the sattelites...

Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner


ill keep my fingers crossed for now it all works like we all want it to..

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #192 on: May 03, 2008, 03:36:29 PM »


Mr. Quiinn, i've seen many of similar claims so far, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,

R o T  F l M a O!

Sorry!

Cheers!
Spinner

@Spinner
The difference between the group that you are belong to,and us  is:

We might read in a book that are not written yet.

but you have the old ones only.

helmut



Helmut, I'm sorry if you find my post negative or even an insulting one...
(The group i belong to??? Hmm, which one?)

Sincerelly, it's not my intention to debunk any of the claims made here...
The quantity & quality of my posts here should tell you all...

Nevertheless, i'm involved in a 'FE' research long enough to know a few things...
 
Guess what? I'm not going to pollute these threads any more.. Although I'm infested with classsical knowledge, i'm still open to the new ideas.... Silly me?

I wish mr Quinn, you and others all the best with finding the 'real thing'!

Good luck!
Cheers!
Spinner

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #193 on: May 03, 2008, 03:47:05 PM »
Hi Spinner.  Thank you for attempting to protect us from our own folly.     ;D

You are correct that there have been zillions of attempts to make a gravity wheel work.  And you are of course correct that Mr. Quinn could be an insane guy (or something) leading us down a path to nowhere.

I've looked at the museum of unworkable devices site before, and I agree it is an interesting site.  But what seems potentially different about this wheel than others I recall are:  (1) the relative massiveness of the flywheel in comparison to the moving weights; i.e., the inertia of the flywheel plays an important role, and (2) Archer's hinted description of a mechanism to lift the weights using very little energy (see discussion a few posts above).

We'll know soon whether this works.  In the meantime, I'm having fun with this!  I'm off now.


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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #194 on: May 03, 2008, 04:10:25 PM »
@ Bad,

what you find doing a search on the internet, is a vague description of a sattellites function.

momentum keeps them in motion, because there is no (or very little) friction in space.
"most of" the boosting efforts are yes to keep the sattellites on the proper trajectory. However, they do require forward propulsion when their velocity nears 'critical', meaning they are soon to fall if they are not sped back up.

The reason they apparently defy gravity is because of :
the centrifugal (outward) force, vs. the gravitational (inward) force. as long as this balance is maintained, it will stay up there. - this is not perpetual, it requires energy to do this.

the "moon"'s orbit is in a much different elliptical pattern, gravity does not pull the moon towards the earth in the same manner as it does to a sattellite. The forces (both inward and outward) change throughout the moon's orbital paths around the earth. moon doesnt follow one path, it follows several paths around the earth  throughout a single "cycle".  its distance from the earth is constantly changing.




 

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