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Author Topic: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail  (Read 153581 times)

goalitroll

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2009, 12:00:38 AM »
James,
What is the most efficient way to run down batteries?
Thanks.

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2009, 07:26:35 PM »
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potatogunman, AKA Zero-Point-Prophet, has a James Roney
replication video showing a slightly different construction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvIa_QtnFkc

James posted a couple of comments on this video:


Wonderful construction! Far better than mine I think. You need a spacer between the magnet and the battery as you do not want the magnet to touch any metal whatsoever. Since you are using a thick steel plate on the backdoor, you can also do this with out the battery, Simply make three metal boxes around the magnet. The battery was used out of convenience as I stated in the video. You want to keep the spacing between layers around 1/4 inch.


But yes there is a way to get rid of the attraction to the shielding. Simply use bismuth for shielding. It%uFEFF will block 100% of the flux without having to layer. Trouble with bismuth is that it's like a mirror, it bounces the flux right back to your rotor. So in the end, we still have the same ole problem. There might be a clever way to use bismuth, but I'm not talking right now.

tak

Just so we're clear bismuth doesn't block magnetic field at all i worked with james on that and he didn't know by then but still it "reflect" a small portion of it's field but it's really  not enough to make it levitate
and just to say i felt the field's forces through a 2 inch thick by 5rad disk so if it goes through that, guess it doesn't work huh ! (bismuth is natural just like magnetite and is really weak just like it's cousin execpt the effect is reversed instead of attracting it reflect "only magnets that is").

And forget the batteries in the process it's another beginner idiocy that james will confirm in due time he doesn't use them anymore knowing it's more or less useless and can be compensate simply by another layer.

hope it helps ...


happyfunball

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2009, 07:23:11 PM »
Is anyone following this story? James apparently had success using 'runway plates,' but YouTube immediately banned his last two videos, under a terms of use violation (I saw it myself), and threatened to close his account if he posts any more videos showing this technique. Wtf?

gyulasun

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2009, 10:14:24 PM »

happyfunball

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2009, 10:34:00 PM »
He uploaded it to video.myspace, see here:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=101301890

Gyula

I saw this. There was another one after this which started the problem.

gyulasun

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2009, 10:46:32 PM »
Hopefully he will upload the second one to a video site other than youtube if he really wish to spread it.


Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2009, 01:47:05 PM »
yes, well from what I know from james until now he really is a good guy but he also live in his fantasy world like a nerd does. so HE got the solution and THE government is against him... Know what i mean... When he played with shielding at the beginning of this tread it was THE holy grail and we never heard of that afterward and then I presented him bismuth thinking it could do something (witch i was in error) but still he wrote everywhere that it was THE solution and make assuptions that were false WAY TOO FAST without even having played with bismuth... YES, he never bough any. So when now he speaks of his ramp ...yes it looks like it could works. AS MOST PROJECTS that are always on the verge of working and they NEVER do. Because we are sadly not too much educated with simple physics (I, of course, am in the front line). So in the end I really like this guy because he's always trying and never gives up like me but has littles flaws like bragging too soon without verifications first just to give examples hehehe.

I did tried to speak of this to him but i never did had an answer and even think he got upset with me a little.

But a true friend is someone who thinks your a good egg even though he knows that you are slithly cracked hehehe.


See ya all,

martin

N.B. Solution is in solid states ...i found one that needs to be verified ...it does work but don't know it's efficiency yet.

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2009, 02:37:23 PM »
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hi everyone good day  ;D

have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_hpRYsm3AY&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VGzGqtzpiY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm6BJ1n9DvU&feature=related

This is a good example of a very good lost of time. He is only trying to see if the magnets degrade themselves after a certain time (some idiots thinks that apparently) they last around 400 years. And he doesn't even have any professional instruments to verify he just stick a screw driver to them and says "hey they are still strong". So, Brief, it's not a working motor at all. the motor is next to it. and theses experiments have all been done all ready. So why not do a little reasearch before starting a project you could save alot of time. Ask any company that sells neo magnets and they will all say the same they loose around 1% over time and for the standard ones if they are heated at 79degree and cools down they won't loose strenght permanently but as soon as it gets to 80+ it start loosing it's strenght each time ...at witch rate ? That I haven't any idea. Just ask the companies but for our own sake stop doing the same experiments over an over again. Do some research next time ok. Sorry if i'm being harsh didn't meant it that way.

Best of luck,

Martin

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #99 on: December 22, 2009, 03:13:01 AM »
This is a good example of a very good lost of time. He is only trying to see if the magnets degrade themselves after a certain time (some idiots thinks that apparently) they last around 400 years. And he doesn't even have any professional instruments to verify he just stick a screw driver to them and says "hey they are still strong". So, Brief, it's not a working motor at all. the motor is next to it. and theses experiments have all been done all ready. So why not do a little reasearch before starting a project you could save alot of time. Ask any company that sells neo magnets and they will all say the same they loose around 1% over time and for the standard ones if they are heated at 79degree and cools down they won't loose strenght permanently but as soon as it gets to 80+ it start loosing it's strenght each time ...at witch rate ? That I haven't any idea. Just ask the companies but for our own sake stop doing the same experiments over an over again. Do some research next time ok. Sorry if i'm being harsh didn't meant it that way.

Best of luck,

Martin

well, in that sense you have a good info if magnets are really dying that fast, but according to others the magnets live up to 1012 years. now i'm confused.  ;)

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #100 on: December 22, 2009, 02:33:39 PM »
ok tito nevermind me or the others and go ask a professionals it's always better to have a real answer then to listen to a couple of know-all-jacks who think they got the answer for everything ...there's alot of these here and sadly i have to include myself. So the best solution is to ask a couple of professionals i think i can't give adresse of website here either like all damn stupid forum (a question of spaming i guess). But do a research on google for magnet4less or goudsmith they are both really big and international companies that deal in magnetism and they know alot more then any of us. You should have an answer around 400-500 years ...it's not precise and it depends of the condition it has been suffering like humidity, friction, heat, ect...

Ahh and by the way ...seriously think about it ...weither they last 400-500 or a wierd precise number like 1012 ??? first we will be LOOOONG dead so who cares and second: nothing in a moving part machine will last as long we always think "hey, if magnets last 500 years than i can make a machine that would give free electricity for ...wow 500 years" but in reality bearings last like 20 years depending of the abuses, stress, heat, ect... and i'm not talking about the good ones from 1920 ...we are trap with the shit of today so 20 years maybe a little too generous. not to mention all the maintenance it needs to get to that 20 years ...arrg. So personally, I think it really don't serve any purpous to even mention it ... but nevertheless have fun with your projects and i wish you the best of luck.

On this good day,

Martin

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #101 on: December 25, 2009, 09:29:33 AM »

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #102 on: December 25, 2009, 07:25:41 PM »
I must admit tito that i didn't see anything that seems fake or any major flaw. there is still a possibility to trick this and the application seems limited at to the torque and it ain't for a house but i think that what we saw is fair possible. (well if your point was to shut me up tight well nice job tito hahahaha). If you have other similar i'd like to see them please.

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #103 on: December 28, 2009, 08:45:51 AM »
I must admit tito that i didn't see anything that seems fake or any major flaw. there is still a possibility to trick this and the application seems limited at to the torque and it ain't for a house but i think that what we saw is fair possible. (well if your point was to shut me up tight well nice job tito hahahaha). If you have other similar i'd like to see them please.

@ meg

no sir i just want to hear some explanation from you cause i'm really learning many things from you.

now i believed that you are correct sir because one of my magnet's strength was lessened because of heat, i think even a year cannot last  ;D

sir i have a suspect that it uses the arrangement in HALLBACH array, JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

this one also sir

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1IesrHBh0
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=333661567309752927#docid=7767509513976414065

is that guy demonstrating is JAMES ROONEY?

HERE IS THE HALBACH ARRAY AND SOME SIMILAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAGu9ja3FQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-9IAj_YnI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVbMsFv7Gp4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwBywqgBNVc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md4gikM9Ezs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFN7cOOfq8M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y-AFQqZVBw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn2cMEL71g0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mWA-s7vGg&feature=related

I JUST WANT TO INCLUDE THIS ONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNW70RGjy1g
« Last Edit: December 28, 2009, 09:49:40 AM by Tito L. Oracion »

Magluvin

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #104 on: December 28, 2009, 09:42:46 AM »
Tito
If you are using neo magnets, the temperature to affect them need to be over 150 deg F. Otherwise they should last many many years without depletion. Or if you are pulsing them in a very very high current magnetic field, that could hurt them also.
Mags