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Author Topic: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail  (Read 153595 times)

Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »
ahh damn if i hear another asshole say "For it is written" i think i'll shot him in the kneecap damn idiot will you stop refering to that crappy bibble and think for yourself ? A bibble nowaday should be use to wipe the shit outta your ass dude ? wake up techstuff ?

AquariuZ

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2009, 12:27:08 AM »
If you can correctly shield the flux of one side of a magnet you can build a magnet motor.

Simple as that.

ramset

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2009, 12:41:46 AM »
Aquariuz

I seem to remember user Techstuff [his comment above] intimating he has done this

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Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2009, 05:23:53 PM »
@Aquariuz

I've done it but the problem is when you have a complete wheel or rotor it f*ck up the flux for reason i'm no expert to explain ...i have a vague idea but well i'm at that point nowaday !

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #79 on: May 04, 2009, 12:42:57 AM »

Good evening to all.
Anybody have seen the last video posted by JR, with the wheel with six magnets and his rotor? It's not clear how they are positioned, and how is positioned the stator, for me.  ??? Any suggests? Thank you very much. Andrea

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #80 on: May 04, 2009, 03:49:14 PM »
Just to help clear up the "tin" issue--I've worked in sheet metal quite a bit over the years, and what James is  using looks very familiar. It's ordinary roof flashing: plain old galvanized sheet steel, usually 28 or 30 guage B&S. It's used for edge-drips and rain-proofing valleys and the joints between roofs and chimneys (among other things). "Tin" is just a holdover term from a hundred years ago when sheetmetal actually was tin--sometimes--and the workers were called "tinners" for the tin solder they used. Real tin, by the way, is not magnetic.

andrea

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2009, 05:46:47 PM »
Good evening to all.
Anybody have seen the last video posted by JR, with the wheel with six magnets and his rotor? It's not clear how they are positioned, and how is positioned the stator, for me.  ??? Any suggests? Thank you very much. Andrea

This is the clip I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuXm7r8Ybw

Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2009, 02:23:13 PM »
Exactly what  i've been whining about a few messages up simple galvanized iron or steel if you think. And for the arrangmeent of the magnets on the wheel ...If you see can see it (the video) and you have the magnets then at least try to reproduce it ? ...trial and error, briefly. My guess is that the north pole is pointing outward like in every case ...

andrea

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2009, 05:46:20 PM »
Exactly what  i've been whining about a few messages up simple galvanized iron or steel if you think. And for the arrangmeent of the magnets on the wheel ...If you see can see it (the video) and you have the magnets then at least try to reproduce it ? ...trial and error, briefly. My guess is that the north pole is pointing outward like in every case ...

This clip is, I think, interesting, cause the wheel seem to go over the usual gap of the last magnet. Yes, I'm trying to replicate it but it doesn't work like in the video. Maybe anyone know the exact position and orientation of rotor and stator, cause the draw that Roney put in this thread too represents another thing. If you see, then, he uses a kind of aluminium cover on the stator: why?
PS Sorry for bad English.

Best regards, Andrea

Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2009, 07:23:15 PM »
Well to be honest i'm not 100% sure so i fear that i might answer wrong and there's enough people here with "their opignons".

I say write to him but he started to work again and i'm not entirely sure if he'll respond. If he doesn't then i'll help the best i can but first you should try "the source" lol.

Even though he doesn't know much more than me he's the one who played with them. And It's the initial attraction of the first magnet that permits to advanced throught the others. having a full wheel won't have the same effect ! briefly it's the damn equilibrium again...ahh well !

Good luck

Martin

AquariuZ

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2009, 02:39:22 AM »
I´ve been thinking a while about this...

Now today i actually had an idea. I took an old aluminum lid from the kitchen and attached it to a CD drive bearing (very loose spindown over 8 minutes).

Toy Magnetics on the rim S to earth N to sky. No cannot reproduct Mylow because it is not all aluminum (large bearing etc). But in a certain arrangement using something that looks like a propellor as a second layer on top of the pan I seem to be able to get bursts of acceleration.

Thing is it does not cover all the series yet and is thus out of balance... If I can get the shielding in correctly I will try and post some pictures.

So it is a double wheel, bottom one has series of magnets with the (back)end of every set partially shielded by a propellor blade which is fixed on top of the bottom wheel. The stator is on top of that and not connected (like Mylow).

Magnets get attracted by the stator and the assembly moves, then the propellor blade passes between the rest of the magnet series and the stator and the pull is almost eliminated so the wheel continues... Reaches next "open" series, pulls, accelerates and reaches the backend of the series which is covered by the blade. Very simple.

I´ll spend a good deal of time tomorrow testing further but for now... It looks surprisingly effective.

AZ

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2009, 11:30:37 AM »
* massive failure *

At least I have a nifty way of testing several configurations  8)

AZ

Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2009, 07:03:54 PM »
I would nonetheless wish to see it Aquariuz ! good hit or failure are important just so they are not repeated indefinitly that's the major reason why this forum exist ! ....and here's my latest idea ...may not be the brithess of course but hey it looks fun to try hahaha !

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #88 on: June 14, 2009, 10:00:15 PM »
potatogunman, AKA Zero-Point-Prophet, has a James Roney
replication video showing a slightly different construction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvIa_QtnFkc

James posted a couple of comments on this video:

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Wonderful construction! Far better than mine I think. You need a spacer between the magnet and the battery as you do not want the magnet to touch any metal whatsoever. Since you are using a thick steel plate on the backdoor, you can also do this with out the battery, Simply make three metal boxes around the magnet. The battery was used out of convenience as I stated in the video. You want to keep the spacing between layers around 1/4 inch.

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But yes there is a way to get rid of the attraction to the shielding. Simply use bismuth for shielding. It%uFEFF will block 100% of the flux without having to layer. Trouble with bismuth is that it's like a mirror, it bounces the flux right back to your rotor. So in the end, we still have the same ole problem. There might be a clever way to use bismuth, but I'm not talking right now.

tak

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #89 on: June 14, 2009, 10:43:54 PM »
Hi Tak and all,

Have you seen this update from James:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyX-hJLGW0A

rgds, Gyula