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Author Topic: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail  (Read 137072 times)

Offline edelind

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2008, 01:26:08 PM »
hi, i saw the videos, it's so interesting.

my native language is not english, so i hope that u can get my point.

the cover, is that pure Tin? or Tin plate? (Tin plate : Tin covered ion)


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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2008, 07:54:22 PM »
Thank u~ :)

Offline hooters

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2008, 10:08:25 AM »
so whats the status of this shielding?  If it works I would think you could make devices of all kinds using it.  Are there any more videos or people with test results to share?  Is this idea dead?  Can it be improved? Is this thing on?lol

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2008, 10:08:25 AM »
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Offline stringguy

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2008, 11:52:30 AM »
Additionally there is a hidden element on the back edge that no one knows nothing about as I have not revealed it. You are so wrong and than some about this.

so...."heres the answer but can't/won't tell" ....aaaaargh, what a tease.

is that it then?????????????????? :o

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 05:11:47 PM »
Why have none of you made a motor yet I dont understand! You have everything you need already!

Take a look at this diagram and someone make one please. I'm still in the process.

*Note that I was going to use Mu-metal as the shield but that doesnt work affectively enough as using the tin method as the shield. Wouldnt this work?*

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 05:11:47 PM »
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Offline Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2008, 06:18:50 PM »
I'm trying to mimic the tin shielding of james with only small magnets 1/2 long by 1/4 and 1/4 N40 ...I just try to notice any diminution of the repultion force, that's it. It's just preliminairy tests and i've notice that copper does brake the magnets a bit ...I have a plate of brass and a plate of copper at home and brass doesn't seem to do anything at all and copper when you let the magnet slide on it it slow down alot so my guess is it brakes like aluminium so "to advoid as shielding" i'm trying all materials as i go ...and also I have tin wire for welding eletronics it's 3mm dia. or 1/8 thick

see the totally not professional test but nonetheless not working here : http://www.megaverse.quotaless.com/martin.jpg

it was just a rapid test with 11/16 tin thick and only 1/16 plastic thick and there's absolutly no difference at all so i'm aware that it's wire instead of a plate but it's still really thick and there is no perceptive change so my guess is that with james shielding his tin is not only tin there must be iron in it and propably zinc also the tin must be added in this material so it's easy to nail through it...would be interesting to have a compagny name so we can contact that compagny and ask them directly.

The rounded up flat coil of tin in the photo is for melting (i intent to make a plate to rule out tin once and for all) even though it may still have a role in it all ...

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Paper Plate & Roof Flashing = Magnetic Blocking
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2008, 04:10:11 AM »
Just a few videos on youtube i made.......
just using paper plates and roofing flashing.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUwYeHv_JEw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOAofesnBTE

 Have a nice day.....................

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Paper Plate & Roof Flashing = Magnetic Blocking
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Offline broli

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2008, 05:58:46 AM »
Very interesting stuff man  :D. Are those neodymium magnets? I believe you just found something cool, very awesome of you to share.

Offline Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2008, 07:22:18 AM »
Wow nevermind my first post I really looked like a newbie, well I still am but i read a lot since and found some really interesting data on various metals. So thank to rodney to throw me on the right direction but i don't think this place will ever served me to anything because it took like a month before somebody adds anything to this tread so it's pretty useless if you ask me.

Anyway good luck to all of you and i wish you maximum success !

And death to bush and oil

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
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Offline Ergo

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2008, 11:31:23 AM »
Take a look at this diagram and someone make one please. I'm still in the process.
*Note that I was going to use Mu-metal as the shield but that doesnt work affectively enough as using the tin method as the shield. Wouldnt this work?*

Sorry to have to tell you this, but your contraption won't work.
Your main problem is that you lack basic knowledge of magnetic flux lines and don't see the whole picture.

The fixed magnets being shielded by the "high permeability material" isn't really shielded at all. It's pure attraction.
And the rotor magnets will be strongly attracted to the shield and it will lock them hard into this position and prohibit any "free" motion.
The attraction towards the "shield" will create a strong backpull if you force the rotor magnets past the shield. Thus no "free energy"

There is simply no such thing as a magnetic shield that isn't attracted to the magnet itself and this kill any "free movement."
This type of magnet motor shielding have been tried countless of times throughout history.
But the inventers didn't know that shielding doesn't remove the flux lines, it just reroutes them.

Offline Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2008, 10:29:20 PM »
Wow Cool somebody finally said something. Well Ergo, you seem to know much, why don't you try one ? and no i'm not trying to be sacarstic or a smart ass, I am sincere, Try one or share your knowledge with us. If you did go to the university or something in the domain of magnetism I suggest you do some sort of cours on video and that you post them on youtube.com for example It would be great ...the only thing now is that it have to be 10 minutes films max of 1024 meg max too. That's crap but, if you find a better place than be my guess ! And don't forget to tell us, lol

And just thinking about it your right about the attraction, But can't we used it at our advantage ? i'll try to post some plan of what i mean exaclty later ...IF they are ever any response to this, Bye 

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
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Offline Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2008, 08:52:16 AM »
Ahh sadly james roney is a fuck'n'retard that don't know squat because there is no such thing as tin plates.

Apparently he can't read either because i've gone to the site of home depot and in the description it says THIN not TIN you damn stupid moron. So your holy grail must of been a beer dude ???

Anyway after that stupid jerk make me run like hell in that place to find answer I finally contacted the compagy in question to get some real answers and guess what there is no such thing as tin plates ...voila it's confirmed james is a moron of the worst case senario not to mention an asshole who sit on is pretentious glory and don't answer for anything ...hey, must be too occupied drinking from the holy grail huh ? ...So basically it's either aluminum which even that dumb ass would of guessed or galvanised(which means zinc plated) or plain stainless steel. that's it so both of them contain iron and guess what... MAGNETIC DOMAIN ...yes, that's it it won't work.

And before yelling succes make your search damn it ...you never heard of pot magnet that all ready do that and they are shielded mostly in steel case ?.ahh boy...


So me i'm done listening to either criminal fakers or dumb ass like this moron and i'm going to verify every thing myself (and so should you, look where it got me, no where).

So i'm appologising to the readers in advanced for the foul and probably unecessairy language but it felt damn good to smack that stupid moron in the back of the head !

Thank you for your comprehension and I hope I didn't offend you TO much, lol 

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Offline CrazyEwok

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2008, 04:21:36 AM »
Just some questions for the original poster... What grade/quality is the rubber? you say 1/4" thickness for the rubber and 1/16" for the tin. Have you tested this with other materials? and is the magnetic shield changable? if you use a denser rubber material can you make the shielding thinner? On this same line of thinking can you exchange the tin/tin plated material for something else like steel? I'm hoping to go to Clark Rubber / Bunnings to get some rubber for this experiment. Good work and thanks for sharing your observations.

Offline Megaverse

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2008, 08:09:25 AM »
Don't bother asking this fraud he won't respond ...I don't even think he comes here anymore but I didn't check so ...

Anyway a good explanation of all this shit ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJDFGvWkkc

And the plastic could be absolutly anything none magnetic ...like disposable dishes ? or a multitude of plastic bags ...whaterver ( i used a couple of paper sheets taped together)... it's just for keeping spacing between the IRON plates that ARE GALVANIZED (or zinc if you wish) and has nothing to do with tin, trust me tin has nothing to do with it.

I have 4 plates of 1/8 inch in pure tin and it passes right through as if there was nothing so james is a moron in bref or i should say a dreamer ...a too damn overproud one at that.

So i hope it helps, sorry for the harshness, And i wish you succes !

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Offline gyulasun

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Re: One Way Magnetic Shielding - The Holy Grail
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2008, 06:19:08 PM »
@Megaverse

First of all, please do not be so harsh on James... meaning your earlier letters in this thread.

Please understand that in American (and also in British) English "tin" has got several meanings. James Roney certainly did not mean pure tin what you have got because it is non magnetic hence cannot influence magnetic flux.

See this link what a tin plate may mean: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/glossary/index.html#tin_plate

Tin plate
The metal, made of thin sheets of steel plated with tin, that was used to create toys far lighter than the cast-iron ones they came to replace.


So certainly the tin plate James uses is attracted by any magnet, because it is mainly iron plate covered with tin against rust and also make it look like nicer,  ok?  And the tin plate from Home Depot has not got several thin sheets of steel, it consists of one sheet or one layer only. If you have to use two or more layers from it due to strong Neo magnets, then you have to use nonmagnetic spacers in between, see below text.

And the '"good explanation'" link you referred to ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJDFGvWkkc )
is neglecting the effect of strong Neo magnets, and in these cases of strong flux the tin(ned iron) plate should be used in several layers with non-magnetic spacers in-between, in sandwich fashion, James explained this in his first postings. 
You certainly saw the case of ceramic magnet with smaller strength wrt the Neo in the video, the metal plate he used was already enough to block the (weaker) flux flux from the ceramic magnet but was not enough for the Neo magnet.

Hope these are of some help for you and really no need for being harsh.

rgds, Gyula

 

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