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Author Topic: George Green Motor on Project Camelot  (Read 11591 times)

Offline Yadaraf

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George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« on: April 18, 2008, 11:36:59 PM »
 ???

Could someone please comment on this video?

.. George Green Magnetic Motor:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgyY47duCM&feature=related

.. More here:  http://projectcamelot.org/magnetic_motor.html

I have searched the OU site, but found very little.

Cheers :)

Yada ..

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 12:44:45 AM »
Hi,

All the rotation comes from his hand holding the ring shaped line of magnets...
You can see this best at 05:31 when everything is relatively at standstill: no hand movements for some seconds while the 'rotor' is in the upright stationary state. Then the rotor loses its balance and gravity starts it slowly rotating in the unbalanced state.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 12:59:12 AM »
I tried building one with no success. The only major difference is that the central magnet in mine wasn't mounted on a ball bearing. I would like to see video of it moving without a person holding the outer ring. It's quite easy to feed energy into these kind of things (wittingly or unwittingly) with a slight move of the hands. Although he says the central magnet is just a speaker magnet, it looks like something more to me with that segmented appearance.

The segmented magnet seems to be a multipole disk magnet (each segment next to the other is a different pole, NSNSNSNS)  usually such magnets are not used in speakers but in floppy drives motors.
I am sure when the hand is replaced by a fixed holder, the initial rotation will soon stop.

There is no vortex (there cannot be) in those magnets in their ring like setup, only handmovement gives some light pushes to the segmented 'rotor' magnet.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 01:05:50 AM »

In tha past I tried it with a round magnetic ball instead of a ball bearing and it does indeed spin.

Regards...


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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 02:07:29 AM »
First this motor is called Hamel motor, and this not work!

What make the rotor spin? The hand of the person that hold the magnet, with a fixed rotor, nothing will move unfortunitly.

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 02:21:05 AM »

If memory serves, I had to use both hands to keep it on a very small 'sweet spot'...it just occurred to me that I didn't have to chase it like on the video.

I'm not sure but mine may have spun slower.

I may have to revisit that arrangement again,

Regards...


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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2008, 04:00:50 AM »
@ALL

Many thanks for the replies.  It sounds like some are still investigating this device.

At this point I'm mostly curious about the missing stator magnet and implications for something like the WhipMag.  Also, while working with TriForce gates in a loop we tried removing one gate, and the Green/Hamel device reminds me of this.  OC is experimenting with a TriForce-WhipMag hybrid, and perhaps something will come from that.

Cheers :)
Yada..

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2008, 07:17:25 AM »
George Green is a disinformation artist.

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 11:23:12 AM »
Yes he is. He knows well how this work, and why it doesn't work when fixed on a shaft. Just replace the steel ball support with a spike, and it will not run even if hand held magnet.

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 04:12:24 PM »
Loudspeaker magnets:
Be cautious of these. They can be magnetised in a very peculiar fashion. Note that the voice coil will drop into a round slot, and the magnet field must lie across this. Often the field experienced is just stray magnetism that does not need to be there.
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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 10:00:59 PM »
The Hamel Spinner has been around along time and most people in these forums have played with it at one time or another.

Must admit I still think there is something there, it just needs another approach that has not dawned on us yet.

I played with the Hamel Spinner a while back, but never made a video, but after a few emails here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rumz8m9c7qY

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 10:51:18 PM »

My arrangement was 1 large and 1 small donut magnet in combination with 1 round ball magnet, looking very much like your second arrangement.

Were you uning a bearing or a magnet in the video... and did you mount it on a plastic axle as suggested ?

Regards...


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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 12:44:36 AM »
The Hamel Spinner has been around along time and most people in these forums have played with it at one time or another.

Must admit I still think there is something there, it just needs another approach that has not dawned on us yet.

I played with the Hamel Spinner a while back, but never made a video, but after a few emails here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rumz8m9c7qY

Cheers

Sean.


CLaNZeR

Many thanks, mate. 

...Q: Green's device was missing a magnet, and do you think that matters?

Cheers :)
Yada ..

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2008, 01:30:25 AM »
CLaNZeR

Many thanks, mate. 

...Q: Green's device was missing a magnet, and do you think that matters?

Cheers :)
Yada ..

Hi mate

In the video I first show it with all 16 magnets in the holder and then towards the end I remove one and do the tests again.

No difference must admit :(

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: George Green Motor on Project Camelot
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2008, 01:48:58 AM »
CLaNZeR

Many thanks, mate. 

...Q: Green's device was missing a magnet, and do you think that matters?

Cheers :)
Yada ..

Hi mate

In the video I first show it with all 16 magnets in the holder and then towards the end I remove one and do the tests again.

No difference must admit :(

Cheers

Sean.


CLaNZeR

D'Oh!    :-[   I can't believe I missed that.  That's what I get for multitasking.

Cheers :)
Yada..

 

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