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hartiberlin

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2008, 01:36:00 PM »
Hi Alex,
why did you delete your graphics that you posted already over here ?

I just wanted to have another look at it...
too bad...

Maybe you can already post your cardboard test design with a few pictures,
so others could also try it ?

If you really get it to work, I guess this will get you the OverUnity Prize
as a working and selfrunning gravity wheel with additional power output
will shock the physics society and will give a revolution in the physics and energy
world...

You don?t have to be afraid, that somebody else will get it done faster than you,
cause you had the basic ideas about it.


Maybe your clue is, that when your wheel turns clockwise,
the weights on the rising left side go also down from around 9 o?clock to
around 7:30 o?clock and go thus nearer the axis.

This is in addition to the action going on
from 12 oclock to  oclock, where the weight is falling and the other weight
at 1 oclock is pulled out.

So I see the major improvement to have weights lifted not just on the right falling side,
but also on the left rising side of the wheel !

This is a brand new idea and I congratulate you to this invention.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2008, 02:18:21 PM »
@ Alex

 Before you get into this wheel to much, write me. I will save you some steps.

hartiberlin

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2008, 02:46:19 PM »
Please can somebody who had stored Alex?s latest picture please repost them ?

I looked in the attachment directory for half an hour, but I did not find them..

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2008, 04:11:26 PM »
@ Alex

 Before you get into this wheel to much, write me. I will save you some steps.

The mechanism has been completed, all is need now is this;

1. Attach a runway for the weights to roll up
2. attach a wodden rim
3. get the rolling wheel/cylinder weights attach them, then watch the wheel perpetuate...

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2008, 08:30:58 PM »
..... I think it is as Hartiberlin mentioned, it is your idea because you did think of it. And if someone gives you a suggestion to help you, it is still your wheel. Or in your case, Alexioco's working Bessler Wheel.
 Has a nice ring to it.

It certainly has - of course if you do not like that name, how about Sprocket's Bessler Wheel (kinda catchy)! :D

On another note, why why oh why do people still delude themselves into thinking that they will be allowed to make billions from this technology - this has been known about for hundreds of years, and I have no doubt at all has been continually 're-discovered' numerous times in the interim, yet, it has NEVER been commercialised, or should I say NEVER BEEN ALLOWED to be commercialised!  Yet, every FE patent applied for suggests that someone believes that they are going prove the exception to the rule - IQ's drop to single-digits whenever greed rears its ugly head it seems...

Finally, I tried modelling Alexioco's wheel in WM2D - not possible imo.  The '2D' bit is a real limitation.  Is there any package out there that allows similar level of modelling in 3D?

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2008, 10:25:16 PM »
My I just state something, I am not doing this for praise, money, and I am making this wheel for me to have in my room as proof of perpetual motion... I would like to make it useful for people, but first of all, I need this wheel to run in my room for over 2 weeks, I see there is allot of people who are interested and its nice to see people are, I myself think this wheel will work, but I am not going to say 100% it will work, if it does then I will post a video but for now we all need to be patient, I am having a hard time keeping my excitement down, I am just thinking about how to finish it off...

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2008, 10:53:51 PM »
Please can you repost your pictures or can somebody else ?
Why did you delete them Alex ?
I wanted to study them this evening and now you keep us away from
helping you or understanding your technology ?

Surely we are exited too when we hear your claims...

Please share at least your last pictures again.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2008, 11:15:08 PM »
Please can you repost your pictures or can somebody else ?
Why did you delete them Alex ?
I wanted to study them this evening and now you keep us away from
helping you or understanding your technology ?

Surely we are exited too when we hear your claims...

Please share at least your last pictures again.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

What if someone takes and runs with my idea?  :-\

I mean it wont be long now until my wheel is complete..
But if your diying to see then....????

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2008, 11:30:20 PM »
Alex

 It is allot harder to make work than it looks. You have to look at it as a center sliding weight, (which I have worked on and still look back at from time to time). So there for you will have to have almost double the weight shifting it than the weight shifted. Here is where the problem comes in, in a moving wheel. The ascending weight is falling back against the direction of the rotation and since it is almost the weight of the shifted arm, it alone can stop the turning, for it also moves faster from 9:00 to 6:00 point than the 12 to 3 point due to the direction of the spin and tend not to shift smoothly. That is where I was going to help you, how to smooth it's movement.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2008, 03:54:13 AM »
Hmm,
I tried now with WM2D for 5 hours,
but I did not get any rotation.

I got from 6 to 9 o?clock the lift of the one weight more to the right,
but in all other area it then compensates again...

So this attached design does not work.
I only used these green rods to connect the weights together.

Do I have to use ropes also to connect some of them ??

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2008, 04:06:17 AM »
What in this picture should be rods and
what should be ropes ??

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4514.0;attach=22595)

If these are all rods the most right rod make no sense to me...

Where are the fixed pins and what  can move ?
« Last Edit: May 12, 2008, 04:32:53 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2008, 06:55:51 AM »
If somebody could still remember the filenames,
I can look up,
if they are still in the attachment directory.
Normally they don?t get deleted...

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Or if somebody still has the the files,
please post them again.
Thanks.

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2008, 07:44:33 AM »
Well, too bad,
since I changed the forum to crypted filestorage to be able to upload the same
filename again, a member now can also erase his own attachments..
This was not so before the crypted filestorage ...

But there are no permissions NOT to let the member delete his attachment other
than forbid to him to edit his posting.

So, if nobody has stored Alex?s drawings on their harddrives and he chooses
not to post them again, they are lost.

I hate to have wasted now all the night to have tried a faulty WM2D setup...
If he didn?t not delete the files, I could have maybe shown by now
already his setup running in WM2D.
Again many hours wasted... ::) :P :-[

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2008, 08:38:42 AM »
Maybe somebody still has the pics in his
Firefox or Internet Explorer cache ?

Type:

about:cache
in your browser adress line and please try to find them in the disk cache.

Mine is already deleted after one day, so too bad..
Many thanks.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2008, 02:22:25 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: MT Combination
« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2008, 01:39:45 PM »
It's not like Alexioco died; he just got a little paranoid ;D. I'm also eager to see what he's setting up.