thanks man again
and utorrent is better ;D
If you really want the best quality use DIVX. The Codec works with Adobe Premiere and as a standalone converter for just $30.00.
The video as shipped was bumped from a hi-8 to a hi-8 to DVD. I would have liked to have sent it prior but I was hoping to be able to have my hi-8 deck repaired so I could create a better copy. Ironically the deck, a Sony EV-C100, was Steven's prior to it becoming mine. As to the reason why there's several scene repeats with rewinds I was trying to assure that I didn't miss any valuable scenes due to dropouts or other anomalies.
thanks man again
and utorrent is better ;D
Regarding the other players surrounding the technology... There were no other people around outside of those mentioned. Most all of the inner circle were investors, Steven's attorney, and periodic visits from Spheric management. No one had unsupervised time with the devices including myself.
The video by the way, is a direct cut from the hi-8 master. I just dubbed the DVD I made years ago as a backup in case someone broke in and found it.
Getting back to prior statements...When I look at the output chokes and large polycarb caps I can't help but think that these are used as a means of isolating the load from the output. This theory would prove true if one were to discover that the output was feeding the choke/cap pairs in series. I cannot fathom why these would act as hash filters since the output is H.F. to begin with. In other words I only use chokes like these to mitigate noise in exotic power supply designs utilizing switching type regulators. The TPU is already producing H.F. so why filter it? The only argument I can see in opposition would be the I.R. drop across the chokes causing moderate to high localized heating. A slight discoloration of the choke windings would occur during operation perhaps even localized visible heat vapor. Another hint to consider is the capacitor chemistry selection. Why such an exotic cap? The polycarbonate capacitor exhibits very low ESR providing the purest or most ideal filtering characteristics especially in an application using higher voltages.
Do remember that Steven could not run inductive loads for quite a while. The youtube video that shows Steven running inductive loads was indicative of his finding a fix for the problem. The video quality however is so bad that it is very difficult to spot and obvious hardware mods made to the device.
:o what's that purple glow around the top perimeter and also to the right?
The torrent link is down. Is there another place to download it via torrent client?
:o what's that purple glow around the top perimeter and also to the right?I know what your saying. It seems to be a light scource and it is reflecting off some plastic disks on the open tpu. Maybe Jack knows?
So does the OpenTPU also use just 2 driver frequencies ?
Regards, Stefan.
Hi Jason,
I am just finished downloading the Mediafire version so far,
but only 2 VOB files there...
Can you please upload the next VOB files also there ?
Seems to be faster for me than the bittorent.
@Jdo300
could download all files of part 2 except .z04 and .z07. Something is wrong there, it will not start with downloading. Pleasae could you check it?
thanks a lot
Norbert
All this dribbling of minute details from Steven reminds me of the movie "The birdman from Alcatraz". It's like Steven is sitting in a cell looking forward to every moment he can share with someone without really ever revealing anything of merit assuring many future visits. This guy could have cut to the chase at any time and just revealed the details but he chose to just tease and toil. I wonder how much of his tales are just ad lib. The devices are very obviously very simple and use a scarcity of parts. There just can't be much to this technology once uncovered. The smallest unit really shows how simple this has to be in that there is just no room for anything beyond the basics.
:o what's that purple glow around the top perimeter and also to the right?That's a light of strong air ionization. If so, the device is really is dangerous to health if you expose yourself to it for too long.
This sounds like Steven but I have trouble with the theory of operation. If one believes that the frequencies are unimportant and are determined by the circumference of the device then it is not a resonant receiver.
Why does he mention the 7.3 Hz vibration of the first TPU (spool type) ?Measuring or estimating such frequency by ear is impossible. Only a very high quality microphone can go that low. 7.3 Hz could be a speculation if no clear claim vibration was measured with a mic exists. Measuring ambient EM fields of this frequency are also very problematic I think.
If you understand some of the theory of magnetostriction you will understand a lot.Sorry if you dislike my ideas, magnetostriction is closely related to acoustics and so probably to my DC acoustical wave hypothesis. One of the proposals I had is to use powdered iron core coils which should exhibit strong phonon production on pulses. This is also a kind of magnetostriction, but without a solid material involved, so there is no other effects available like potential electric field buildup - only phonon excitation. It will go better with time as powder becomes finer and finer due to pulsing.
Why does he mention the 7.3 Hz vibration of the first TPU (spool type) ?Measuring or estimating such frequency by ear is impossible. Only a very high quality microphone can go that low. 7.3 Hz could be a speculation if no clear claim vibration was measured with a mic exists. Measuring ambient EM fields of this frequency are also very problematic I think.
that's exactly the point, why does he mention the vibration to the decimal point? It's because he MEASURED it. On a scope? yes, it is a beat frequency, and you can see those quite easily on the scope.Why would it beat at 7.3Hz? Beat frequency is a difference between two frequencies of any magnitude being summed. This means that one of the frequencies in the sum should be shifted by 7.3Hz against the other. I do not see how one of the frequencies can be shifted due to ambient oscillation without the other shifting there as well and thus removing any beating. The only 'sane' answer is that SM puprosely used two frequencies with a difference of 7.3Hz between them. Being at beating is energy ineffective. Any natural - or rather naturally induced - oscillations won't (or likely won't) exhibit such behavior.
@Jdo300
could download all files of part 2 except .z04 and .z07. Something is wrong there, it will not start with downloading. Pleasae could you check it?
thanks a lot
Norbert
Hi Norbert,
So far, other people have been able to download all of the Part 2 files and view them. I don't have any control over what is going on at the file server since I simply uploaded the files there. However, I have heard that some people had problems downloading files from the MediaFire site using Internet Explorer 7 but were able to get the files using Firefox. I would try using a different browser if you keep having problems. But I highly suggest that you just download the compete DVD from the torrent, it is finally starting to move fast now and you can get the whole thing at once rather than in lots of pieces.
God Bless,
Jason O
Could you please name the attorney and the Spheric management guy?s names please ?
Who was the guy that filmed the video and who was the one assisting Steven Mark
with putting in the lightbulbs at the biggest device ?
Do you know or ever spoke to John Sanchez a colleague of Prof.
Roland Schinzinger ?
The attorney was Cavenaugh and he is the shooter and lamp assistant.
Never heard about the two guys that did the test but I can look them up. I have Nexis Lexus.
Here's a little bit of fun for all you junior psychologists out there. Watch how Cavenaugh runs the camera. He periodically sneaks in close ups that are very brief as if to get one over on the boss. It makes him look like he is also there just to rip off the technology like everyone else!
@Jdo300
could download all files of part 2 except .z04 and .z07. Something is wrong there, it will not start with downloading. Pleasae could you check it?
thanks a lot
Norbert
Hi Norbert,
So far, other people have been able to download all of the Part 2 files and view them. I don't have any control over what is going on at the file server since I simply uploaded the files there. However, I have heard that some people had problems downloading files from the MediaFire site using Internet Explorer 7 but were able to get the files using Firefox. I would try using a different browser if you keep having problems. But I highly suggest that you just download the compete DVD from the torrent, it is finally starting to move fast now and you can get the whole thing at once rather than in lots of pieces.
God Bless,
Jason O
Hi Jason,
as I have already downloaded 2 GB from the Mediafire server,
I don?t want to download it again via the Torrent download.
Could you or somebody else please post the missing
parts 3 to 5 of the VOB files and the BUP and IFO files
to the Mediafire server or megaupload.com
for easier download ?
Many thanks.
@Jdo300
could download all files of part 2 except .z04 and .z07. Something is wrong there, it will not start with downloading. Pleasae could you check it?
thanks a lot
Norbert
this is what puzzles me. How could you FEEL a moving magnetic field?????
this open TPU does not "appear" to have the typical COLLECTOR wire.
This can have two implications:
1) We can not see it well enough in the pictures, and so can assume it's there.
I think the reed switch/magnet is no more than a switch that looked cooler than a gaudy dangling toggle. Reeds have limited actuations and fail. I doubt Steven would have jeopardized demos over reeds getting close to their MTBF counts. And if magnets were of any value they would be deployed in the large unit.For prototyping reed switches should be fine. Can you offer any idea of what could be used there instead of reed switches that also "pulse"?
Why does there need to be any mechanically induced switching or any electronic for that matter? At least one set of four coils energize in a circular or rotary fashion creating the gyroscopic phenomena in the physical world. Do the coils actually get mechanically or electronically switched? I don't think so. I do think there is a transfer of energy in a rotary fashion but how is the million dollar question.Understood. If there is no pulsing going on, I'm out of here. And sorry to flood with my 'acoustic/phonon non-equilibrium' ideas. ;) (but then again how this TPU is different from an AC motor then)
Hey Stefan you forgot the coils are bifilar to cancel out the flux.
This is visible in the pictures too... it's two wires.
M.
"I don?t know what a reed switch is, but I?ve seen plenty of simple magnet activated switches"Sounds like a disinformation, like reed switch is not a "simple magnet activated switch". Maybe he didn't really knew a word 'reed switch' at all.
Its seems to me the salmon may be vibrating their tails in harmony with the falling water, somehow neutralizing the force of the waterfall...From complex Fourier transform I know that every real-valued oscillation serie (e.g. acoustic wave) carries negative component of the same frequency. I always wondered myself how this fact can be utilized in a physical world. This is the same as mentally inverting compression and rarefaction areas within acoustic wave field. Probably it can be utilized.
Why does there need to be any mechanically induced switching or any electronic for that matter? At least one set of four coils energize in a circular or rotary fashion creating the gyroscopic phenomena in the physical world. Do the coils actually get mechanically or electronically switched? I don't think so. I do think there is a transfer of energy in a rotary fashion but how is the million dollar question.
The question regarding the unit that is demonstrated atop the Sony VCR's. It is made out of an empty wire spool. The end caps are plastic and the spindle is tin or steel. The windings appear to be wound independently of the spool end caps and attached as a subassembly.
Do you mean the cap @EM was pointing to earlier or this one when he turns the tpu upside down.
But he made a mistake when he showed the FPTU. lol
Look at the meter when he connects the probes. He knows that meter off by heart and would not putz around so long with the selector buttons. He put the probes on, the voltage started going up around 26 but then he pushed some of the buttons to remove the voltage reading. He then put the magnet then pressed the proper meter button again to show the voltage. We could never see the meter readings in the old video. lol
In my opinion and observation I see the TPU as an evolved transformer.
Please watch this video, it's short and an informative refresher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPxdl1zpcC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPxdl1zpcC8)
The galvanometer "kicks" in different directions, once at the introduction of current in the primary and once in the opposite direction at the primary's disconnection.
The direction of current flow and direction of the coils turns (CW or CCW) determines the coils' polarity.
The idea, I believe, behind the TPU is to take the two pulses you get (one from ON and one from OFF) from the primary coil and receive the different pulses on two different coils instead of the same one as in a conventional transformer. The secondary receiving coils are wound in opposite directions and activated in rotation, switching between the ON-OFF pulse.
The timing would go something like this, this is one cycle:
1. Primary pulsed ON -> 1st receiving coil registers current pulse
2. 1st receiving coil is disconnected after equilibrium -> 2nd recieving coil is connected
3. Primary power is disconnected -> 2nd receiving coil registers current pulse
The process is repeated for the next pulse. The 'resonance' comes from timing the 2nd current 'kick' from the field collapse with the next incoming pulse of a primary coil. The flow never changes even though the current does and less energy is used in the process by alternating between coils in relation to the direction of their turns and the direction of their current flow. The primary coils will be aided in their pulses by siphoning off and reusing the energy from the previous pulse's collapse. The trick is to receive the increasing and decreasing magnetic field on two different coils.
The 'pulses' are routed back into the primaries and capacitors to allow a maintained momentum rather than a start-stop-reverse system. The system is AC but the bi-directional flow is rerouted down the same path by switching between alternately wound secondary coils between the ON-OFF of the pirmary.
/shrug
When I say I saw nothing significant I meant no additional voltage or current being generated in the pickup coil I used in the center when I moved it to various places. When I changed frequencies to speed up the rotating field it did not change the voltage. But you can try the experiment yourself if you would like. Or if you have further suggestions please let me know.
Chad
I have a crystal radio set I want to feedback the speaker output into the antennae. Then blink a diode for a couple of weeks. Has anybody identified the brand of tape SM uses from the new videos? I think this may be a crucial component parameter in my build. I'm tuning the crystal set for infra-red frequency input. This way I can use my knowlege as to how the frequency of trips to duncan donuts coffee relates to the amount of body heat so I can get to that majic frequency of conversion. I need the tape so I can wrap it all up and fuck with people for a couple of years.
Harti,
I still have the circuit but I would have to rewind the coil which is believe it or not the easy part compared to building and troubleshooting the circuit. But like I said I didnt see anything unusual on the inside of the core. If you can think of something that I may have forgot to try that could possible result in something substantial I could rewind the core. I saw a sinewave but when I shorted the pickup coil there was only feeble current. I believe it was less than 50 mA. I used a silicon steel torroid which had a outer diameter of about 7 inches. Each coil was 145 turns and each pair was arranged in a bucking arrangement so that when ther were energized there was a external magnetic field which could be felt if you placed a magnet in the center with one of the coils energized with about 3 amps.
Chad
I need the tape so I can wrap it all up and fuck with people for a couple of years.
Stefan,
If you mean getting the field to rotate means getting the to 90 degree phase lag signals to combine and form one sine wave I was able to do that. Well, the kinda did that on their own as long as you had the coils wound properly. The problem was that I still had the problem of inductive reactance so not much current was able to be fed into the coils as frequency increased. I also tried resonating the coils with appropriate sized capacitors which resulted in more voltage being felt by the pickup coil, but when I shorted the pickup coil it started to be reflected back to the input coils as a voltage drop.
Chad
....
The output current from the single turn output coil does not affect the drive power for the control coils !
That is the nice thing about it !
;)
Hey Stefan you forgot the coils are bifilar to cancel out the flux.
This is visible in the pictures too... it's two wires.
M.
Why should it cancel out the flux of the control coil and be bifilar?
Regards, Stefan.
I brought up the 100 patents thing recently. I mean why would he confirm on a video used for attracting investors, that there are over 100 patents on the TPU, when it is obviously very easy for anyone to verify this. Weird.Maybe SM went nuts from his TPUs? It's such a beliefs explosion if this thing works.
About the piezo switch idea, are there standard components like you mention that you can post here.
Yes. I find it intriguing that Professor Schumann was asked by British Intelligence to review Coler's work and claims.
good observations BEP, the twin lead wire certainly seems split towards the left side. Just because there is a bifilar winding on there, doesn't mean much, he probably used whatever wire he had laying around, and it certainly makes the winding process much faster, with each loop you get two wires, so later you can hook them in series, or maybe the bifilar nature is important, we'll see...
The two secondary wires are not both closed loop at the same time. One is open so that it will be invisible to the magnetic field while the other receives the incoming magnetic flux from the primary's pulse. They switch for the field's collapse so the wire that was invisible receives the collapsing magnetic field and the first wire is now invisible to the system.
Like a transformer, only the AC current is split into two kicks on two seperate wires giving a DC flow. Batteries/Caps pulse into a primary with DC, it gets run through the tranformer process and spits out two DC pulses where ever you need them to go. The pulse 'slaps' timed with the recycled pulse will keep the momentum up. I'll even say that a set of secondaries also function as primaries, firing in rotation around the ring. Eight wires: 4 primary/secondary and 4 secondary. One set goes to output, the other get routed internally to batteries/caps/primaries.
Those torroid coils with the white wire running through them are switching mechanisms, the wire is picking up the opening and closing of current and sending the two pulses to a "galvanometer" switch controller.
Not all the secondary wires in the system are closed at the same time, this would cause excess resistance. Keep in mind their direction of turn and their current travel in relation to magnetic flux.
SM said it take more energy to accelerate a car to 60 mph than it does to maintain the speed...
The two secondary coils are not both closed loop at the same time. One is open so that it will be invisible to the magnetic field while the other receives the incoming magnetic flux from the primary's pulse. They switch for the field's collapse so the wire that was invisible receives the collapsing magnetic field and the first wire is now invisible to the system.
Like a transformer, only the AC current is split into two kicks on two seperate wires giving a DC flow. Batteries/Caps pulse into a primary with DC, it gets run through the tranformer process and spits out two DC pulses where ever you need them to go. The pulse 'slaps' timed with the recycled pulse will keep the momentum up. I'll even say that a set of secondaries also function as primaries, firing in rotation around the ring. Eight wires: 4 primary/secondary and 4 secondary. One set goes to output, the other get routed internally to batteries/caps/primaries.
Those torroid coils with the white wire running through them are switching mechanisms, the wire is picking up the opening and closing of current and sending the two pulses to a "galvanometer" switch controller.
Not all the secondary wires in the system are closed at the same time, this would cause excess resistance. Keep in mind their direction of turn and their current travel in relation to magnetic flux.
SM said it take more energy to accelerate a car to 60 mph than it does to maintain the speed...
This is interesting. Which wires would you consider as the primary and which as the secondary?
The reason I ask is that it has been proven over and over that there is no magnetic coupling between what has been called the "collector" and the 90-degree coils wound over them.
Regarding HV vibrators, I came across the following links:
http://www.electronixandmore.com/project/1.html
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A00E2DD133FE233A2575AC1A96E9C946496D6CF&oref=slogin
Probably far OT as most of my posts but then perhaps not... ::)
@Marco
The OPTU 4 coils could be bifilar or single wound at this stage, but BEP sees both a dual and a single wire wound, and others see differently right now. We need more observation on that. Don't take it personally because at this stage, the more we can observe, the more we can then put the pieces together later.
@Marco
The OPTU 4 coils could be bifilar or single wound at this stage, but BEP sees both a dual and a single wire wound, and others see differently right now. We need more observation on that. Don't take it personally because at this stage, the more we can observe, the more we can then put the pieces together later.
It's obvious....
Just look at the pictures.
And read the carl doc.
M.
@Marco
The OPTU 4 coils could be bifilar or single wound at this stage, but BEP sees both a dual and a single wire wound, and others see differently right now. We need more observation on that. Don't take it personally because at this stage, the more we can observe, the more we can then put the pieces together later.
It's obvious....
Just look at the pictures.
And read the carl doc.
M.
One wire carries pulses and the other is a collector?
I came to this conclusion because Steven said "disable the effects of the flux" and after reading the carl doc.
But i would say the other wire is to cancel out part of the flux so the result travels in one direction.It may cancel out a part of the flux induced by pulses only if it carries the same signal in an opposite direction. If that's the case, where is the load collector? Beside that cancelling the flux created by pulses will obviously nullify any magnetic induction so there won't be any magnetic field building up.
I want to mention about something I read on the site.
A person named TAO wrote this to you a while back:
>As a gesture of good faith towards you and the rest I'll throw out some insights...
Lets talk about the 'kick.' When the old Edison DC generators were turned on, back in the day, they released this 'kick' and killed many workers in the process. A man by the name of Tesla had seen this. He wondered how and why this 'kick' would occur. So he experimented with wire and disruptive discharges from capacitors. It was found by him that this kick could be made so powerful that it could explode wires instantly. This kick came out of the wires perpendicularly. He discharged capacitors into stout wire and through a spark gap. The key to the kick's strength and appearance was in how fast Tesla discharged the capacitors into the spark gap AND how fast Tesla STOPPED the flow of current AT the spark gap. Tesla used all types of devices to stop this flow of current, magnets, a flame, counter-rotating engines. His goals were to get the time in which the discharge is STOPPED to be much quicker. As Tesla did this he found that the perpendicular radiations, the ones from the wires, caused electrical effects to appear in wires and other copper/metal materials near the STOPPED current/discharge. These electrical effects could be made to create electrons on other wires and copper around his STOPPED current/discharge wire.
So, based on those things, lets look at the Mark device. Lets say Steven put one big stout cable around or in the rings,and all around these he had many many windings. Now, if Steven put into that stout cable a current and before the current could get to the end of the wire, he stopped it's flow abruptly, then perpendicular radiations (the KICKS), the same Tesla observed, would appear and spread from this stout cable, this would cause Tesla'a copper charging effect, which would hit all the other wires in Steven's coils. Now, if Steven wired the coils right and stopped the discharge of the current through the coils he would be able to extract a lot of extra energy from the tap points on the coils. This is basically how Tesla's magnifying transmitter works.
Capacitors discharged ABRUPTLY into a wire, then the current flow is stopped ABRUPTLY before the current makes it to the end of the wire, and this KICK comes out of the wires perpendicularly. This KICK would then charge copper with electrons(hot electricity) or their opposites(cold electricity). It just depends on how you setup the device.
So, I would say that Steven's KICKS have a direct relationship to Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, its REAL operation.<
So Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret. I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power generation, but he does have the secret.
Do you think he knows it?
The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation.
Lindsay, it is so VERY hard to describe things with words!
But i would say the other wire is to cancel out part of the flux so the result travels in one direction.It may cancel out a part of the flux induced by pulses only if it carries the same signal in an opposite direction. If that's the case, where is the load collector? Beside that cancelling the flux created by pulses will obviously nullify any magnetic induction so there won't be any magnetic field building up.
Oh yes Bedini...Mr. "Radiant Energy" Sounds like an Avon product. We wonder why most mainstream engineers run when they hear this stuff.
"Then the white single turn collector coil wire,
which is taped under the red control coils
to be hidden ( can only be seen in some places, otherwise
taped by black tape)
generates the output DC voltage."
Is everyone in agreement that the output is not D.C. but A.C. ?
to cancel on half of the cylce may also mean to "quench" the pulse - in which you cut it at max amplitude - just like old damped impulse excited radio circuits.That SM's text you've quoted fully corresponds to varying duty-cycle square waves. Though I do not believe that with reed switches SM (he should have been using them at least initially) could achieve anything close to square waves. Spark gap, for example, "stops" the current pretty quickly by itself. It is what Tesla used most of the time it seems. Capacitors - when connected abruptly also discharge quickly, in a logarithmic manner AFAIK. This is close to spark gap and resembles a saw-tooth wave.
@Marco
The OPTU 4 coils could be bifilar or single wound at this stage, but BEP sees both a dual and a single wire wound, and others see differently right now. We need more observation on that. Don't take it personally because at this stage, the more we can observe, the more we can then put the pieces together later.
It's obvious....
Just look at the pictures.
And read the carl doc.
M.
Still no other VOB files over here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=bcb5de0bd0f181ea8c9e7c56ba37815f5a52c02ec6da2cd7
Couldn?t somebody please upload VOB file 3 to 5 to another download host like
rapidshare.de or megaupload.com please ?
I don?t want to use the torrent cause I don?t want to redownload the 2 GB again,
which I already have from the 2 first VOB files.
Many thanks.
P.S: Jack,
do you also have a high resolution version of the other videos
like the video where all the investors have a look at the
devices and where they also power a TV set and drill(saw?) and
vacuum cleaner ?
Stefan, VOB5 is blank, and VOB4 has only about 20 seconds, and it's not worth bothering with.
It would be good if Jack had the other videos too.
One thing to consider when evaluating this technology that cannot be overlooked or discounted is semantics and jargoneering. When evaluating statements made from SM or others even here in this forum one has to consider the authenticity or accuracy of the terms used. More specifically when listening to SM or reading his alleged communications with others here you have to take into consideration the awareness level or sphere of influence of the person. In SM's case if his technical awareness is mostly from an era gone by when vacuum tubes ruled the day, his words moreover his terminology should be dissected and parsed for modern day equivalence. In other words don't get too focused on terms like "collector coil" as they may not be accurate terms in the modern era. If SM was schooled in vacuum tube theory, the predecessor to the transistor and FET then one must consider that his sphere of influence is vacuum tube theory and therefore he sees the world from a prism different than that of an engineer schooled in the modern era. Therefore in summary do not take SM's terminology verbatim, parse and translate and you might that his terminology may make more sense.his "collector coil" looks suspiciously like an AM Loop Antenna to me... Maybe we have the input/output side of things the wrong way around?
A "collector coil" for all we know could mean something quite different to a "tube" guy!
This question is for Mr Jack Durban,given the devious nature of SM
I believe your assessment of him is correct.Given that,
what he has said can not be
taken as absolute truth.
Is the output of the TPU ,dc at 5khz to 6khz.
Was a scope or a frequency counter ever used on any TPU to check this,
or is this solely SM saying its
Dc at 5khz to 6khz.
In one video he connects the meter backwards and it shows a minus reading this confirms
its polarized, its dc voltage but thats all I see.
Thanks for the video!!!
Again,
what is on VOB 3 and can somebody please upload it ?
Many thanks in advance.
The issue of DC vs AC output is quite important and needs to be sorted out.
In the LTPU video, towards the end he says something like "a 800 Volt DC system", than Dr Schwinzinger mentions DC measurements in his reports, however on the contrary, in the OTPU video I believe he says it's DC, then says "actually it has 6000 Hz..." something rather.
Another unrelated observation, regarding rotation, notice that in the FTPU video, now we can see his hand mimic rotation just like in the OTPU video, quite interesting... he has a concept that something rotates, "the turbine effect" he referred to perhaps.
EM
This comes down to skillful risk management. If my device can't run inductive loads I am going to say it is a DC output device. Why? It's simple. If asked if I can demo a motorized device I can say "no this version is DC only" The AC version is in the lab. See it is an escape clause of sorts.
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue. Is this a fact?
In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc.. If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage, I would expect it to power a DC motor. If it does NOT, then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.
EM
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue. Is this a fact?
In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc.. If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage, I would expect it to power a DC motor. If it does NOT, then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.
EM
@Wattsup,
Thanks for the PDF document, quite a lot of work has gone into that.
I am wondering if the board had a simple rat race circuit on it, I think it could be built with 2 x ICs and a simple single transistor oscillator to drive it, plus three transistors for the output stage - OK maybe the component count is still too high.
I wonder if its possible to have 3 coils driven by 3 mosfets and use the back emf from each coil to trigger the next mosfet in the chain, so you have a self sustaining simple rat race circuit. You would need to pulse the first coil manually to start it running.
Regards
Rob
Also you would have heard the switching noise from the moving reed metals...so no way he used theseThey are placed in vacuum, you won't hear them working that much.
as oscillators..
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue. Is this a fact?
In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc.. If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage, I would expect it to power a DC motor. If it does NOT, then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.
EM
I must have missed that part of that video. I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed that he figured out the whole inductive load issue.
In this above video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pOpcSmIzE
he clearly says at 6:16 min, that the output is DC with 5000 Hz sine wave superimposed.
You are playing a wild guess. In the second open tpu SM is using a transformer to connect the bulbs. The second test with the same tpu is without using the transformer. If the tpu had a high dc component (superimposed ac on dc), the transformer wouldn?t be effective, but it worked just fine. Which means it is producing pulses of the same polarity mostly, ie, pulsed dc. As simple as is. Or at least, it is not ac superimposed on dc.
Kames.
You are playing a wild guess. In the second open tpu SM is using a transformer to connect the bulbs. The second test with the same tpu is without using the transformer. If the tpu had a high dc component (superimposed ac on dc), the transformer wouldn?t be effective, but it worked just fine. Which means it is producing pulses of the same polarity mostly, ie, pulsed dc. As simple as is. Or at least, it is not ac superimposed on dc.
Kames.
If I am reading this correctly you are talking about the black, open tpu that he uses in the garage with the two lamps. That box he hooked the TPU to was just a wall box with sockets in it. The output of the TPU is run to what looks like a Power Wheels (pow, pow, power wheels) battery connection. The box with the plugs has the receiving connection coming out of it. This was not a transformer but just a box to make a much easier connection.
He makes it very apparent that he is afraid of shocking the pee pee out of himself and in other videos with the "observers" he warned them to be careful and not play too much as he has seen people get HURT with the device. It is putting out real power and is not a toy. It is possibly, if not probably, lethal if mishandled.
It's the same principle that was applied on the TPUs that were taped up and had a single wall socket coming out of them. The TPU he took outside did not have the 'power wheels' adapter connection and he lit the bulb by touching it to the leads sticking out.
I did, that's why I am correcting you. He explains very clearly that it is just a wall box with sockets to make an easier connection. That's why the lamps were able to be lit without it.
The conversation is when he is connecting the TV and Drills up ... not the video clip with the lamps.
The conversation is when he is connecting the TV and Drills up ... not the video clip with the lamps.
By turning it upside down, this maybe perturbed the magnet effect only. These are both distractions. While you are breaking your brains on how this magnet is doing this, the real device function stays hidden.
The conversation is when he is connecting the TV and Drills up ... not the video clip with the lamps.
There is no open TPU in that demonstration and he decribes the large device on the table specifically as an AC inverter.
I clarified what part of the video we were discussing and was not corrected otherwise by Kames.
Well the following photo just blew away a possible full wound pancake coil.
That little hole just saved a potential of wasted time. You can see the hole from the other side in the second photo. So the coil is not going at least past this hole, leaving a maximum of maybe 9 or 10 winds on the collector, or as few as EM has shown earlier. Good.
Another part of the puzzle now for the collector is shown in the second photo. If the collector is white glued to the outer rim of the spool rings, why can you still see the rim. It should be covered with the collector and the glue. This is why I feel there are more winds in the collector and they go under and past the rim.
Does anyone know, where I can find few Depletion Mode MOSFETS, preferably low ir and high breakdown voltage?
Also, were these type of transistors available (and easily accessible) during the time when SM built his TPUs ?
Thanks
QUESTION TO JACK DURBAN PLEASE:
what is the material the 2 black rings are made of in the OTPU?
if you don't know, please say so and we can drop this question.
thanks
You must understand that SM was and is a B.S. artist, a con man. I know some of you can't fathom that but it is fact. I know first hand. He will lie when there's no reason to lie. He makes claims that anyone can prove false. Case in point: his reference to having hundreds of patents and one had over 750 pages. All 100% B.S. He has one utility patent on an unproven 3D sound theory and 5 design patents on speaker aesthetics. The sound patent is a real patent. The design patents are worthless.
@Jdurban
After looking through patents 381,968 381,970 and 382,279, tesla described a set of modifications throughout all those patents that when combined would look similar to motor with a generator superimposed upon it. He describes how to get rid of the contacts so the motor needs no moving parts and describes how the generator can be built in similar construction. later he associates a drawing that represents a motionless motor wound on an annular iron core with 4 sets of coils in quadrature with multiple coils imposed upon the sets "superimposed", he later describes how one could encase that whole device in a continuous steel shell . Whats your take on the modifications he proposes in those patents.
Joe
@Bep
This sure sounds a lot like what your describing
The inducing or primary coils wound on the core I
are divided into pairs or sets by the proper
electrical connections, so that while the coils of
one pair or set to co-operate in fixing the magnetic
poles of the core at two given diametrically-opposite points, the coils of the other pair
or set?assuming, for sake of illustration, that
there are but two?tend to fix the poles ninety
degrees from such points. With this induction
device I use an alternating-current generator with coils
or sets of coils to correspond
with those of the converter, and by means of
suitable conductors I connect no in independent
circuits the corresponding coils of the generator
and converter. It results from this that the different electrical phases in the generator
are attended by corresponding magnetic
changes in the converter; or, in other
words, that as the generator-coils revolve the
points of greatest magnetic intensity in the converter will be progressively shifted or
whirled around. This principle I have applied
under variously-modified conditions to
the operation of electromagnetic motors, and
in 'p previous applications, notably in those having Serial Nos. 252,132 and 256,561, I have described
in detail the manner of constructing
and using such motors
You must understand that SM was and is a B.S. artist, a con man. I know some of you can't fathom that but it is fact. I know first hand. He will lie when there's no reason to lie. He makes claims that anyone can prove false. Case in point: his reference to having hundreds of patents and one had over 750 pages. All 100% B.S. He has one utility patent on an unproven 3D sound theory and 5 design patents on speaker aesthetics. The sound patent is a real patent. The design patents are worthless.
Jack,
What is the chance that the devices themselfs were a fake?
Suppose he would connect them to a charger at the end of the day to charge them up for next show..
There are many ways to fake what is seen on the video tapes.
I can build something that looks exactly the same with a series of nicad's inside and power bulbs for a short period of time.
Is it possible that he hired you to come up with something that would work just because his was a fake??
If Steven was that master of BS and the con man, then i think the device itself could be fake too because he was just in for the money...
Many people who work on something for a long time fake it when they cannot get it done.
M.
Your reference to Nicads...Nicads have a very low watt density and would have been a very poor candidate. The ideal cell of choice would have been the good ol' AA cell but at 1.5 v per cell...well you do the math.
In fact every transformer buzzes due to the magnetostriction effect anybody knows this.Yep, it does. However, there was no transformer coiling detected AFAIK?
In fact every transformer buzzes due to the magnetostriction effect anybody knows this.Yep, it does. However, there was no transformer coiling detected AFAIK?
I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc. The plate has a high voltage potential with lots of useable power available. You cant get to it or use it for anything without applying a heating voltage to the cathode or what is the cathode potential of the tube. So, you put in a small voltage of 5 volts AC 60 Hz which heats up the cathode and welcomes the electron stream from the plate. Or actually the other way around, but not important for this example of my thoughts. Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC. if the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency. That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing. It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.Then you can measure all kinds of things going on. You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds. What I measured during this process was very interesting. All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.
I was working at a laboratory at the time with much more sophisticated equipment then is available to even most manufacturing companies. I was able to analyses everything coming out of this simple two transformer AC high voltage circuit. In most power supplies there is lots of hash coming out and designers use a .05 or so to short out as much as possible before it gets to the smoothing capacitors. This hash comes from the mains supply and especially from the transformers themselves.
I became interested in the interaction between the two AC transformers. The interaction can be very reveling, trust me.
You don't see transformer coils?Maybe it is time for you to study transformers then.No need to question my understanding. Where is transformer in open TPU? It is this bifilar 1:1 thing you call a transformer? Since other TPUs are closed, you nor I should make much speculations about them.
You don't see transformer coils?Maybe it is time for you to study transformers then.No need to question my understanding. Where is transformer in open TPU? It is this bifilar 1:1 thing you call a transformer? Since other TPUs are closed, you nor I should make much speculations about them.
Just something to consider here as another angle of operation.......Yep, I believe it's what is going on in the TPU except the coil winding. Your DC-DC xformer pic shows standard step up transformer setup. TPUs have bifilar winding, so their operation should be a bit different - they do not perform voltage transformation, but they create a charge field around toroid, they use this toroid as a big open capacitor. Mag fields aside, what do you think should happen if your pulse is short and core response is slow? The energy you invest with each pulse will stick to the core. This is what I would call a charge of core.
I have absolute proof its a fraud ... but i cant reveal my sources ::)
Hi guys (and gals) long time no see .. hows things in ou land ?
Cheers,
Dean
I have absolute proof its a fraud ... but i cant reveal my sources ::)With "absolute" you mean "none of the prototypes have worked under any circumstances"?
Alas, it is not good practice to dismiss an observation so fast. It is not too thin to do many things. I just find it a little odd to laminate two pieces when using one thicker piece would have sufficed.
If my current train of thought is correct then one of the three conductors of the twin-lead windings is a portion of the collector. That would be the one in-between bifilar control coil conductors.
If my current train of thought is correct then one of the three conductors of the twin-lead windings is a portion of the collector. That would be the one in-between bifilar control coil conductors.
could you elaborate? are you alluding to a trifilar winding?
always thought the control winding on the otpu was that clear-type speaker wire; 2-conductor
@ Jack. are you able to add anything here as to what those control windings were based on what you saw? any wire going underneath? was it simple 2-conductor speaker wire, was there a 3rd conductor along side?
thanks
could you elaborate? are you alluding to a trifilar winding?
always thought the control winding on the otpu was that clear-type speaker wire; 2-conductor
@ Jack. are you able to add anything here as to what those control windings were based on what you saw? any wire going underneath? was it simple 2-conductor speaker wire, was there a 3rd conductor along side?
thanks
its a combination of a motor and a generator that runs itselfLooks like so. However, is rotation a necessity if not just for the sake of scalability and higher output? I mean, can this OU thing be replicated with a single pulse coil and a single collector coil so that operation can be confirmed without going into a lot of other complexities?
@JD,
This is also from SM pdf, I know you don't think any of his info is credible, but I just wanted you to think about this:-
Quote from SM:-
".....necessary to make the demonstrations you see on the video tapes available today. So in many ways we have early RCA color TV engineers to thank for my discovery of the power generator. I am sure they are all dead now but they did contribute........."
So I did some research and found:-
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/science/high_voltage/voltage_mult.htm
Three stage CW multipliers, commonly known as tripler, were used in most of the early B&W and colour TV's. The voltage drops rapidly as a function of the output current. In some applications, this is an advantage. The output V/I characteristic is roughly hyperbolic, so it serves well for charging capacitor banks to high voltages at roughly constant charging power. Furthermore, the ripple on the output, particularly at high loads, is quite high.
Increasing the frequency can dramatically reduce the ripple, and the voltage drop under load, which accounts for the popularity of driving a multiplier stack with a switching power supply. A clever way to reduce ripple is to implement a full wave voltage doubler as shown below. This effectively doubles the number of charging cycles per second, and thus cuts down the voltage drop and ripple factor. The input is usually fed from a centre tapped ac transformer or MOSFET H-bridge circuits.
You can find more detailed information regarding this subject by visiting Blaze Labs :-http://www.blazelabs.com/e-exp15.asp:-
SM mentioned about the imploding tv set which killed a young boy, tv sets have high voltage systems in them, so its logical to think that this maybe the other piece of the puzzle. Plus the output dispalyed on SM multimeter is DC in nature
Are you aware at all of this story?
And again from SM:-
".......Energy conversion is different when you consider speed. 12 volts at 100 amps is slow and the energy can not dissipate quickly enough to kill you by discharge. But, it is a lot of energy especially if converted to speed. Reduce that 100 amps to 100 mA but increase the voltage (speed) to 100,000 volts and you can electrocute someone!
My unit operates on these principles. Think about all those frequencies traveling inside the collector coil and how they interact....."
I have a cct of a small high voltage dc to dc converter from electronics cookbook, using 555 timer, diagram attached, now my take on this is what if we were to use a small enough transformer inside the first tpu, and the output of that fed into the ring configuration, so basically my question would be, was there at that time a small enough transformer that could be placed inside the first two tpu's which would be concealed?
Yes, it is probably speaker wire. The third conductor should be the same wire 'zipped' apart. I'm familiar with that wire - as stated earlier. To the unfamiliar eye it looks the same as indoor 300 ohm twin-lead - and actually could be just that. The speaker wire version was a bit larger.
Chicka chicka bow wow..
ah heck, believe what you will.
@ Jack, thanks for the reply on the material. are those the speaker parts you mentioned before?
one has to discount the role of metals and magnets.Well, one should not discount the role of charge (like static charge of capacitor).
I've made an attempt at subtitling the first 15 minutes of the DVD.I have added 5 more minutes worth of English subtitles from EMdevices' transcript (http://overunity.com/index.php/topic,3872.0.html).
ah heck, believe what you will.
No problem. Disagreement can be a good thing. I saw the pic before you removed it. It looked no different to me. I'll stop with the theories on this thread - as specified. In fact I'll not bother folks here again until I'm in the same league by having the videos to view.
Good Luck!
@Poynt99
Obviousally you didnt get jack's joke.." Sorry SM, the statement "separate the men from the boys" was not intended as a physical act. " lighten up i seem to be the only one besides buzzard following the tesla patent, no need for flames here ..
In a nutshell you have to take everything SM says with a grain of salt. SM is not an engineer but a tinkerer who didn't understand much of what he was doing. Like most tinkerers that attempt to explain phenomenon with tortured logic and unconventional terminology. SM's blatherings can change on any given day or moon phase. I would not invest much time in looking for any hidden clues in SM's dissertations.
And again, this device was real and did function. At some point this site should be divided into two groups to streamline the processing of data
Group one = Yes the design worked and let's find a way to replicate it.
Group two= No this was a scam and used batteries and the moon landing was a hoax.
Maybe a third group= I know this is a fraud but I can't reveal my sources because they are voices in my head.
It's time to separate the men from the boys here and get moving forward. Sorry SM, the statement "separate the men from the boys" was not intended as a physical act. :o
@Jack,
Goodmorning,
I just want to say I totally agree with you and appreciate your efforts here!
When the time is right and I have figured out the rigth configuration, I will build my own TPU.
But first I have to finish my new kitchen here. i dont know what would be worse, an exploding wife or an exploding tpu. ;)
greetings from the netherlands, Rene.
Shown is the top grille of a Spheric speaker system. It is made by stacking the rings similar to those shown in the otpu. Shown are Model 25K that housed a 10" woofer. Smaller models were built in a similar manner.
Hmm,
I am still puzzled about the 50 milliohmn internal resistance of the OpenTPU,
if it is no fake.
Maybe he had just hidden batteries inside the 2 x 60 Watts lamps stands ?
But it did not seem, that these stand were heavy as he lifted them up...
I had no time yet to study fully,
what user Spherics said in all of his postings:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10881;sa=showPosts
And he seems to know SM maybe better than Jack has known him.... ???
Surely one could fake all the videos,
for instance hide a big coil inside the table inside the cupboard on this
expensive table and do the wiring for the power transfer from the floor to the
cupboard and
use a fake lightbulb on the street outside as Dave CTGLABs has done for fun
once.
But also we have the reports of Prof. Schinzinger
and Jack himself says that the TPU worked.
So I am probably lost in this moment
and have to study it more.
It seems for sure, that if the OpenTPU has no
white wire as the output coil hidden inside the 4 red control coils
then it seems to work on completely other principles
as the rest of the other TPUs.
So then , how does he get with it the power output and
how can the internal resistance only be 50 milliOhms ?
Marco,
or somebody else
please post the URL of the Carl DOC.
It seems I have missed this one.
Many thanks.
I will add the part from whatsup's transcript (http://overunity.com/index.php/topic,3403.msg53135.html#msg53135) to complete it.
@ dom
well you return with more intresting words ...
sounds like a diffrence in potencial no?
ist
" THEASE ARE NOT FREE ENGERY DEVICES THEY ARE CONVERSION DEVICES....." ~SM~
so how do you make a bunch of kicks at the same time? bucking what do you do with a bunch of kicks? collect them and use them....?!?!?!
@ dom
well you return with more intresting words ...
sounds like a diffrence in potencial no?
Any way
ist
" THEASE ARE NOT FREE ENGERY DEVICES THEY ARE CONVERSION DEVICES....." ~SM~
so how do you make a bunch of kicks at the same time? bucking what do you do with a bunch of kicks? collect them and use them....?!?!?!
I'm just thinking here, were dealing with HV, so that dc to dc converter is a good start in my opinion, just have to meld that with the TPU,
Conversion devices, what to what? Think about it, I know i said this in the macedonia thread, I just have been working on bedini stuff, and havent got around to the TPU, but people like Jason always informs me whats going down in TPU land, and I have never lost interest, I had another fellow i also keep intouch with, and to his knowledge he is not aware of anyone trying HV yet...., he is also good with electronics, and has said that it would be very easy to conceal that type of cct in a TPU. I'm referring to something like the 555 timer with small transformer, he may have used simple transistors to do the same thing.
So I went back for the clues, like super sleuth, there, about old TV sets, and him talking about HV, so am i only one missing the point here, or have others here at least agreed with this concept.....
Think of this also, because were using HV in a TPU, That the electrons are smashing into one another, therefore the kicks.
Speed, like a particle accelerator, wheres the extra energy coming from, ya........so my belief is in this direction, I can only try this when it comes time, Just wanted to bounce this off the TPU group to perhaps get someone who has a setup to try it......
@Jack very important question, and one that has been bugging me.. and you may have answered this already, but have you built one?
If so do you have any pics? I can't believe all this time that you wouldn't have.......
Sorry I don't mean to sound like an ass, but it's bugged me...
Another thing to you must have been aware of TPU group, these guys have been busy, it seems in the interview that you weren't aware of it
I'm not trying to have ago at you here, far from it, but these questions just spring up in peoples minds.
Just a general search in Google would reveal what were all upto.....
I do Apologize if this offends, hope we can still be mates...
Dom
P.S. Who was that guy that produced DC at a particular frequency with a simular setup (although he lumped his coils in 3 sectors) That was interesting since the DC showed up at a particular frequency only.
thanks for that picture Vortex1, very interesting. It looks to be copper. Hmmm...... time to alter the theories...once again LOLMetal type is of no importance IMO. What's more important is assembly. That thing looks like a grand capacitor to me. Who said it is a speaker? :) Model 25K? Like 25 kiloWatts or 25 kiloVolts? :)
a magnetic field to do this to a wire would have to be gigantic,what the source of this power is I don't know.
libra_spiritP.S. Who was that guy that produced DC at a particular frequency with a simular setup (although he lumped his coils in 3 sectors) That was interesting since the DC showed up at a particular frequency only.
Did you ever find out who this was?
here is the video of the tpu being violated - http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581&q=tpu&ei=HSUMSNz0B43O4gLgo-ixBA
recognize any of the faces Jack?
edit: it would be awesome if someone could clean up the audio and or subtitle it.
I am producing 1400 volts of reactive power that barely activates a 12 volt relay.But you do need to invest power into pulses - not voltage alone. Preferrably measured in Joules per pulse. Or there would be no serious 'movement' inside the coils. Two things are necessary: short rise time and relatively high power. Voltage alone won't do it, be it even kilovolts but at nanoamps. Well, if not Joules, but milliJoules at least.
To all and AleksThanks! So, it's a speaker made by some Spheric Audio Lab in 1995? Well, I would say that for a non-subwoofer speaker (the top one does not look like one) it's probably a very stupid design of a grille (but I may be mistaken). Can it be that somebody was producing these speakers just for the sake of lowering cost of a grille for inside use? $400 is a lot for a single speaker (well, quality speakers cost $1000 each today, I have a pair, but they are top quality studio monitors - not these insane grilles). Of course, it's a conspiracy point of view. Maybe somebody here can come up with a simpler explanation.
Here's where I found the Spheric speaker pics:
http://ebay.auction.co.kr/detail.html?itemNo=270218384119&FeedBackPercent=99.6
f = (3e8 m/s ) / (6e4 m) = 5000 Hz ;DGood find I guess. However, it's only a cavity. If there is any energy present (who pumps it?) you need a receiver 60km long. Can pulsing of TPU's "charge cloud" create some kind of coupling to this resonance? I myself in doubt about that, because I cannot envision system that can do such tweak. Has anybody heard of 5kHz energy spectral line of Earth's EM fields?
5kHz is probably just a mechanical resonance from SM's wonderful hand-wound, unpotted coils.  This is undesirable in speaker coils.
They usually turn at 1200 to 3600rpm or hzRPM is not Hz, far from it. RPM is Hz * 60.
Hi Stefan,
The Carl letters are in the TPU Compilation PDF that Marco made.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9211
The letters start on page 37.
God Bless,
Jason O
@ GrumpyQuote5kHz is probably just a mechanical resonance from SM's wonderful hand-wound, unpotted coils. This is undesirable in speaker coils.
well I assumed that all along, that it was some resonance due to the dimension, but then recently, I got the impression all the different TPUs, of varing diameters, all functioned at 5 to 6 KHz. And he seems to reiterate that they extract energy from the "earth magnetic field, which has an INHERENT frequency" It's a definite frequency, and "you tune to it" like he says. So, is this INHERENT FREQUENCY = 5 KHz ?
So, haveing said that, this is not in opposition to having the device resonant. In fact, it needs to be resonant at the same frequency for it to work effectively. After all we tune antennas to be resonant at the desired frequency.
If we are to embark on the TPU as a Receiver, theory, then the TPU is some sort of loop antenna that taps into a naturally occuring frequency.
here's a site with good info about them, and who makes them
btw, why are you interested in depletion-mode? they are much less common.
...because they more closely operate like tubes maybe?
http://www.automotivedesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191900470
I watched all of the videos & recorded what SM said about his TPUs. Here is what he said:
12 Ounce Open Unit in the 38 Min Film.
OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 1 inch.
Output = 186V @ 5 Amps. 7 Amps with a Heat Sink.
============================================
Small 1 Pounder, Open Coil. Took Magnet from his pocket.
OD = 4 inches.
Height = 1 3/4 inches.
Output = 100V @ 1 Amp. 7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Small Open Coil, 1 1/2 Pounder:
OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 3/4 inches.
Output = 120V @ 5 Amps. 7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Large 17" Open Coil.
OD = 17 inches.
Height = 3 inches.
Thickness = ?
Output = 830V @ 10 Amps.
=================================
.
@ Slapper
Check this out for more info on the planets and their humm
listen here http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/spheres-2.wav (http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/spheres-2.wav)\
heres the page its from http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm (http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm)
joe
Hi Stefan,
The Carl letters are in the TPU Compilation PDF that Marco made.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9211
The letters start on page 37.
God Bless,
Jason O
Many thanks again Jason for all the work you
put into it and also for uploading the last parts.
I restudied this Document again and Marco was quite right.
The OpenTPU could also have been made
from bifilar wire.
What is clear now to me is, that ALL the TPUs
are based on rotating magnet fields
which extract like whirlwinds or tornados
probably some magnetic energy from the surrounding.
To get a basic effect I guess it is only important to rotate
3 or 4 coils with the right shiftregister pulse train,
so that we have fast revolving magnet fields and
then extract the power from it via 90 degrees oriented coils,
so the 3 or 4 control coils are not dragged down via counterEMF.
In the big 17 inch LargeTPU the output coil is just a a big ring
of stranded copper wire ( loudspeaker cable), where the control coils are wound around it.
In the OpenTPU SM speaks of:
"here I place the magnets into
the "Receptors""
Could these "Receptors" be the
Receivers of energy of the rotating magnet field ?
Probably yes !
I played around yeasterday night to deinterlace the
video and have looked at it back and forth for several hours
again and again in slow motion and also changed the Gamma and contrast
to see more wires, etc...
and I am sure the OpenTPU has at least 3 or 4 of these
magnets with "Receptors" in these "stand quaders"
Also SM admitted in that compiled PDF document that
there are 9 Volt batteries in some TPUs
for setting up the control circuits..
So I think these "Receptors" are just special 90 degrees coils
to the rotating magnet vortex which intercept the rotating flux
and don?t weaken the rotating flux.
I still need to try other deinterlace filters for virtualdubmod
and when I am ready I will post these deinterlaced
short clips.
Regards, Stefan.
@slapperLike in http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Pythagoras-Was-Right-Scientists-Devise-the-Geometrical-Music-Theory-2.jpg ?
Google MUSIC OF THE SPHERES, then pythagoras you'l be pleasently suprised.
Joe
hi all
@jack,
I am not that much into football, only when we play the european cup or the world cup.
But when I happen to stumble into the guy i will ask for you ;)
if you are interrested in what I do in my spare time:
http://turbo124.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4717
@all
I dont believe the RPM of the TPU was that high, otherwise a spinning compass would never have kept up with the starting rotating field.
If the earth is a giant radio station, we must be darn close to it, rigth on its surface....
Greetings Rene.
@ EMDevices
This is exactly the coil arrangement I'm concentrating on, except I'm not using a common at this point. I tried complete all-the-way around windings (as opposed to segmented) and got nothing of consequence.
@ chef,Take a look around Area 51 ;D ;D ;D ;D
the next thing all do is a crash course in remote viewing i think, to find the missing origional tpus...
Rene
Nice to see a return to the 90 degree displaced coil topology as that is the correct assumption. The gyroscopic effect was due to the four coils stepping from one to the next. There had to be a heck of a lot of energy present to create the physical effect motion like this. SM's references to resistance to motion was not a distraction or ruse. This device could be some type of resonant motor that performs like the Tesla 381,970 patent reveals.Oh yes, of course the gyroscopic effect is caused by magnetostriction, and strongly suggests that the coils were energized like Tesla's in that patent. Since the magnetized parts of the core are longer by about 1 part in 10000, the rotating field makes the shape of the core a spinning ellipse, even though the core is not spinning.
On the FTPU, I was wondering why I could not see enough connections to justify 8 coils all in quad. See the animation below. The quads jump from on level to the other. This way you can control both coil levels with one impulse and a back impulse. This will give you guys food for thought while I work out the other connections but it is not easy at all and very time consuming. Please consider the animation as the closest yet to the ftpu function.
Nice drawing. Could you please tell more, what do you mean here "This way you can control both coil levels with one impulse and a back impulse." ?
Do you know how magnetic field "created", and how "energy" move in a coil when pulse hit it? Do you know what is North and South pole? Where are these "poles" exactly, when pulse hit the coil, and how these "poles" changing in time?
Trust me, SM was right about understanding is important,not copying What all of you are doing with checking videos, all is useless. As Jack said, SM was paranoid,so, what we can see in videos, all is not important,because if could be, SM was never allowed to tape, or cut these things.
Just some thought:
Gyroscopic effect.Did you played ever with gyro (not toy gyro)? If no,buy one. You will got in pack little motor,what you can connect to shaft to start the spinning. Gyro has high mass, in high speed have a momentum.... electric motor still connected, How many power we need to accelerate to 10k RPM, and
after that hold on 10k RPM? If you spin an mass to enough high rate, something change. Buy one gyro, make experiments.
Did you heard about some scientist test, where they made magnet gyro, and they recognized, nearly after first run and stop, they need less power to achieve same speed? It's all interesting.
You need to recognize, "electrons" have same property as a matter, electron have a mass. More electron have more mass...it's all so simple.
When any pulse hit the coil, in very first time till the intelligent space equal themselves near the coil,actually you are trying to move the coil mass through space...
Answer is in basics...
It is truly inspiring the spirit of cooperation I'm seeing here.
I don't know if we will ever really know how the SM TPU really worked...but from what I am seeing here something will be built that will be as good as or better.
You guys are putting out so much knowledge that of of us boobs just may say something outwardly irrelevant which may trigger an idea among with the background to run with it...a lot of things happen that way for people who pay attention to everything.
I am a firm believer in serindippity...my life took many positive turns because of it...there's nothing like having 'Great Expectations'.
Regards...
Thanks for the reference, I have looked at that site and a number of others before, they do describe what the DEMOS is (depletion mode mosfet) but they do not have them for sale.
Why the interest in depletion mode?
Trying to keep it simple, and allow the system to self tune, find it?s own resonant frequency by default. Then build on that. Remember the old DC bicycle bells? A set of AA or C batteries and simple coil and a leaf spring. The spring by it?s own movement interrupts the circuit, and moves back at its own natural frequency. (function of stiffness, weight etc)
I?m interested in the off part of the cycle. First having a current and then stop the flow abruptly, it would also be in line with RE behavior, kicks, etc.
If you study the brain especially brain wave activity you will find that just prior to REM sleep you slip into an Alpha state where you remain mostly conscious until you drift off. It is here that amazing clarity comes about.
If I'm handed a schematic, I can duplicate it and have a unit runing.
If I'm given a running unit, I have it.
Once I have a running unit, (either built or given to me) I can then proceeed to understand how it works.
Once I understand how it works, I can scale up or down and modify or simplify.
But we have neither, but can deduce most of the schematic from the videos... and with some retoric from SM we might just be able to piece this mistery together.
Is it realy an "effect" ? Some exotic "comp" field, or special material properties?, or is it using well known electromagnetic principles to extract energy from the earth magnetic field?
EM
SM stated in plain English that Tao had the "secret". No cryptic analogy. No esoteric words. He said the he "definitely has the secret".
I will now digress onto the circumstance surrounding the initial eureka moment as I understand them.he goes on to describe delays with ES speakers...interesting
If it makes it easier to accept, "dispacement current" is still a current.Yep, it is... Imagine that abrupt discharge creates RE (comp) field. This strongly displaces existing magnetic field, but since core is slow, this displacement results in a pretty relaxed kick that immediately follows pulse. Make the core fast and you'll likely won't notice anything since your core won't have any energy in it by the time when the discharge fires. So, I would suggest before performing any tests make sure your core is slow, that it sustains magnetic/electric field after each pulse so that next pulse can interfere with some field. I may be wrong, of course, but that's an idea to consider.
always uses a capacitor for storage.I think it's a requirement. Nothing (beside maybe avalanche MOSFET) can push so much current in a single pulse. Capacitor discharges logarithmically which makes it possible to estimate the peak energy output of each pulse and length of the pulse, knowing capacitor's rating. I guess most guys here are playing with toyish discharges that do not make any difference except on the o-scope. It's a dangerous biz in fact. 5000 pulses per second with 100mJ each pulse equals to 500 W*s power.
Until you discover this "effect", you're just wasting your time.
but what did you mean when you said that Jack's video is already deinterlaced though?
Quotebut what did you mean when you said that Jack's video is already deinterlaced though?
I have something to compare it too (frame grabs posted long ago) and those are more clear and the interlaced fields can easily be seen and when taken apart, the picture has way more info for use with Topaz labs, or other superesolution solutions. But, if you look at a typical frame from the Jack video, you won't see the typical lines on the edges of moving objects (mice teeth,etc..) which are indicative of interlaced video, instead you will see a blur, which means he already DEINTERLACED by BLENDING the fields together. I'll try and post one of these "mice teeth" frames so you can see.....
EM
P.S. Look at the tape measure in motion , see the lines? now compare to Jack's video.
A good comentary on deinterlacing etc.. www.100fps.com
In the frame shown, the tpu itself is not moving, so we are ok, but in most of the other shots, either the camera shakes, or Steven moves the tpu around, so we loose so much info by Blending. Remember, each field in a frame is an actual picture in time, so we get sharp motion frozen pictures of the tpu (but at half the vertical resolution, but that's ok since we have 2 fields per frame and they're offset verticaly,) just read the above link and it will explain it a lot better.
The botom line, we need the have as close a copy to the original as possible, no deinterlacing, no nothing. We can do the rest digitaly and extract all the info that can reasonably be extracted from both of the individual fields within a single frame.
@Jack - I'm assuming the HI-8 deck you used for the source has a TBC? Would it help if you had an external TBC. I would be glad to chip-in to buy a TBC that we could send to you. (I know you said you will at some point upload a deinterlaced version of the DVD, but please let us know if there are any gadgets which will improve the HI-8 capture even further.)
@JD
With all that equipment, you could start OU TV or the The Overunity Channel.
About the pulsing, what if I had a capacitor, an inductor and a zener diode. once the voltage reached a certain level in the capacitor, would the zener open, discharge, then close and start over. Could this be done fast enough. Could the item E above be a Zener Diode instead of a capacitor?Maybe TRIAC could be used? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIAC Sounds like an interesting variant. While it can be triggered with a low current, and then it automatically shut offs. Sorry, I'm just thinking theoretically, but it does look like it can be used for conducting pulse discharge and then work as a protecting diode. From the description it does not react on gate signal when it is triggered - good for "fire and forget" logic. Coupled with a capacitor that provides discharge energy it should work pretty well - close to Otto's MOSFET pulses.
About the pulsing, what if I had a capacitor, an inductor and a zener diode. once the voltage reached a certain level in the capacitor, would the zener open, discharge, then close and start over. Could this be done fast enough. Could the item E above be a Zener Diode instead of a capacitor?Maybe TRIAC could be used? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIAC Sounds like an interesting variant. While it can be triggered with a low current, and then it automatically shut offs. Sorry, I'm just thinking theoretically, but it does look like it can be used for conducting pulse discharge and then work as a protecting diode. From the description it does not react on gate signal when it is triggered - good for "fire and forget" logic. Coupled with a capacitor that provides discharge energy it should work pretty well - close to Otto's MOSFET pulses.
True but it will only shut off during a zero cross and if the unit goes into an unknown state and the gate fails to see the zero cross the TRIAC will remain on.Well, yes, this info is available there via links, there is also problem with main current raising too fast - so may not be suitable for pulse discharges. I think we are mostly limited in choice by avalanche mode SS components. No other kind of components may "suck" as much current from power source - in theory current may rise to infinity until the unit is destroyed. So, to get high-power pulses it should be whether some mechanical device connected to capacitor battery or avalanche SS component connected in feedback mode (considering DC output) or to a capacitor battery.
@JD
With all that equipment, you could start OU TV or the The Overunity Channel.
@All
About the pulsing, what if I had a capacitor, an inductor and a zener diode. once the voltage reached a certain level in the capacitor, would the zener open, discharge, then close and start over. Could this be done fast enough. Could the item E above be a Zener Diode instead of a capacitor?
I would say yes your looking at a zener diode.Unfortunately, zener diodes with high voltage rating (above 100V) are non-existent.
I would say yes your looking at a zener diode.Unfortunately, zener diodes with high voltage rating (above 100V) are non-existent.
you guys sure of your posted NMR frequencies for iron?
i don't think there has been a consensus, and doesn't look right
bruce for example has 323 MHz. well at what B field strength?
looks like this frequency depends on B, and that at least some testing is done with B = 1T
so, in the earth's field alone, you'd be looking at a factor of 20,000 times slower
so what's that? oh about 16.15 kHz
DOH! :o ............LOL
Years later he told Allan L. Benson of other experiments he had made with an oscillator no larger than an alarm clock. He described attaching a vibrator to a steel link two feet long and two inches thick. "For a long time nothing happened...But at last...the great steal link began to tremble, increasing its trembling until it dilated and contracted like a beating heart--and finally broke!" (A. L. Benson, The World Today, Vol. XXI, No. 8 (February 1912)
Sledgehammers could not have done it, he told reporters; crowbars could not have done it, but a fusillade of taps, no one of which would have harmed a baby, did it.
Funny that SM gave us KHz but recommends VHF tubes. I always did find this strange. VHF is from 30 MHz to 300 MHz.
SM's words:
"Yes, I know that they are hard to find so I have found that I can use any triode designed for color TV VHF use."
@EMdevices, thanks for the screenshots. I see your point about the fields now, by just using them separately we should see more detail instead of blurring them further. I was still a bit confused though, as Jack's video IS indeed interlaced :) . I did have a look at www.100fps.com while trying to find the best deinterlacer for the footage, but you're correct in saying that I should really rephrase that to "best field combiner / blurrer" !!
I noticed one of the plugins called "DeInterlace Smooth" converts the interlaced footage into 60Hz by resizing each field as you have done and doubling the frame rate (smooth meaning frame rate NOT image!) - it should be possible to try this sort of thing in VirtualDub itself and this is the main reason for me using it. You can see the effect of the plugins and filters on-the-fly, and it doesn't blur the image further like it sometimes can when playing via Directshow / overlay. It can get very blocky when you "zoom in" on VirtualDub though as it doesn't do any smoothing on the preview images at all. Again, this is my personal preference for using it (plus, it's free, so we can send it to anyone).
@Jack - always good to see you on this forum. I don't think any of us expected anyone to turn up who actually worked with SM directly! Just wanted to say thanks for the video - I know you're very busy and I'm glad you stuck with it after you read some of the "less positive" posts.
Is a TBC supposed to correct (or attempt to correct) the errors already present on the master HI-8 tape? For instance, on the first part of the footage, you can see how wavy the black vertical line on the left is throughout most of the video - I know this is an effect of the head jitter etc., but I thought a TBC was supposed to do it's best to correct this?
A TBC can only do so much. It's primary function is getting the sync tip and porch right. Secondarily it can clean up Chroma vectors to a degree then from there the usual brightness / contrast issues.
Also, if you do run another copy, do you think there is any more info on the tape that can be captured by raising the black level slightly etc? (without clipping the whites).
I am creating a virgin and a cleaned up version using professional hardware and software.
Again, although this footage won't give us all the answers, it's one of the most important steps so far in trying to reverse-engineer the TPU IMHO .In deference to Grumpy's view a few posts back (I should know by now not to be the first fish that "bites" :D ) - I'm all for the theory, but seeing that most of it goes over my head, I think I can be of more help in deciphering the wiring / coil configurations and the circuit operation first of all.)
Jack, do you possibly know who Spherics might actually be? (probably been asked before)
If I could get a copy of his diatribes it would help me detect similarities to SM's style.
@all - Apologies for this, but I made a bit of an error with the files I attached previously - you will need to download a copy of DVD2AVI....
http://www.digital-digest.com/software/download.php?sid=1028&ssid=0&did=2
Then, open your first VOB file from the SM DVD ("VTS_01_1.VOB"), and the rest in the sequence should also load in automatically. Then, just go to File > Save Project, and save the new file as "VTS_01_1.d2v" in the same folder as the other files (SM DVD's "VIDEO_TS" folder). You should then be able to open the .avs file with VirtualDubMod.
The reason it fails to open is because the d2v file points directly to where MY copy of the DVD files are stored. Sorry about that - I knew I should have tested it all fully. :-[
VOB1 (7:17-7:25): "Each time the frequency comes together (*claps*) it appears to have an effect."
@ kames
;) ;)
oh there's a collector there alright, and it's not wound with the controls as some have imagined
PS: Also notice, SM is not saying ?frequencies?, he is saying ?frequency?
there's the Tesla/Dollard RE camp (but no one has seen RE yet, have they?) grumpy?
VOB1 (7:17-7:25): "Each time the frequency comes together (*claps*) it appears to have an effect."
ain't that cool? Cookin' with gas now!
Many have RE, dumbass. that's what i've ben trying to tell ya... Only way a TPU can work is by Tesla's electrostatic induction laws.
Hi, sorry to chime in, though I cannot make it out what E might be in wattsup picture (it could be a zener too), Zener diodes are manufactured up to 200V, see this link (out of many): http://www.nteinc.com/Web_pgs/Fifty.html shows zener diodes in so called stud-mount package.Well, thanks. However, this is still pretty small voltage (and power - take a look at amperage). If you use average 10microsecond pulse duration maximum you can get is 0.4mJ of energy for each 200V pulse - does not look much.
VOB1 (7:17-7:25): "Each time the frequency comes together (*claps*) it appears to have an effect."
I was waiting that somebody finally mentions this SM?s phrase. Thank you Spoodily. Why didn?t you tell the end of the sentence?
SM words:
?Each time the frequency (claps) comes together it appears to have an effect like a gyroscope. ?. Just a vibration when the device is in operation.?
PS: Also notice, SM is not saying ?frequencies?, he is saying ?frequency?.
"I'll turn on the primary frequency...and now the secondary frequency."
"I'll turn on the primary frequency...and now the secondary frequency."
Did you notice also that when he turns the first switch it makes "clickclick" and than a third click with the second switch! For me it means there are possible three frequencis.
regards
Norbert
"I'll turn on the primary frequency...and now the secondary frequency."
Did you notice also that when he turns the first switch it makes "clickclick" and than a third click with the second switch! For me it means there are possible three frequencis.
regards
Norbert
On the smaller TPU there is only one switch that clicks only one time. What does that mean?
@Jack, you mean you have alot of SM's equip? are they something he would want back, because if he hasn't come back for them, then something bad has happened....
oh there's a collector there alright, and it's not wound with the controls as some have imaginedmmm, Let's suppose there is validity in this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4549.0.html
Hello all, I've been following TPU research for some time, have read all SMs letters, watched all the youtube clips and read many threads. you're all doing fine work in trying to decipher it all.
This may help:
If any consecutive frames of the TPU videos show the same scene, i.e. if the camera is held on a stationary TPU for two or more consecutive frames, then this free software will allow you to stack those frames and will increase the information content of the resulting still frame:
http://www.astronomie.be/registax/
It's used by amateur astronemers to acheive super sharp images of celestial bodies using small cheap telescopes, many blurry frames of the same object are integrated together to yield a much crisper image.
I would try it myself but don't have the AVI files yet.
Easy registax tutorial:
http://www.russsscope.net/staxtutorial.htm
thanks for the picture, nice close up.
EM
oh there's a collector there alright, and it's not wound with the controls as some have imaginedmmm, Let's suppose there is validity in this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4549.0.html
Then I would the center toroid expect to be the collector, catching the swirling out and in magnetic field
Most new uses for the galvanometer mechanism are in positioning and control systems. Mirror galvanometer systems are used as beam positioning elements in laser optical systems. These are typically high power galvanometer mechanisms used with closed loop servo control systems. They can have frequency responses over 1 kHz.
Toroidal inductors and transformers are components is in electronics, typically consisting of a circular ring-shaped magnetic core of iron powder, ferrite, or other material around which wire is coiled to make an inductor. Toroidal coils are used in a broad range of applications, such as high-frequency coils and transformers. Toroidal inductors can have higher Q factors and higher inductance than similarly constructed solenoid coils. This is due largely to the smaller number of turns required when the core provides a closed magnetic path. The magnetic flux in a toroid is largely confined to the core, preventing its energy from being absorbed by nearby objects, making toroidal cores essentially self-shielding.
In the geometry of torus-shaped magnetic fields, the poloidal flux direction threads the "donut hole" in the center of the torus, while the toroidal flux direction is parallel the core of the torus.
I know some of you will disagree with this, but I really believe the following hypothesis:
Floyd Sweet just had a rotating Aether Vortex spinning between the 2 flat magnets. Edwin Gray had it spinning inside his special tube. Hubbard had it spinning inside his circumference of pulsing electromagnets. The TESTATICA Device has it spinning inside the two large cans. SM had it spinning inside sequentially pulsing control coils arranged in a Toroid. These are just different ways of accomplishing the same thing.
That is why most of SM's TPUs wouldn't work upside down. When he flipped them over, the spin came to a gradual stop. That also coincides with what SM called the "INERTIA EFFECT". In essence, SM proved that Aether will only spin in 1 direction in the northern hemisphere. When flipped over, no Aether spin = no output. Neither SM nor Floyd Sweet really knew the relevance of the spinning Aether Vortex.
Remember when Sweet accidentally shorted the 2 output wires & ICE formed. Aether Spin in Coils Produces COLD ELECTRICITY!
Remember in one video where SM said "Now you tell me why it won't work upside down." Yes, SM is a Very Brilliant Man, but at the time he really didn't understand that the TPU output power was coming from the Aether Vortex.
I think the foregoing facts are very important for a TPU Design Concept.
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Thank you for your support Jack & Sparks.
Jack, it would be of IMMENSE VALUE if you can remember which way the Compass Spinned Up. Was it clockwise or CCW? That would tell everyone which way the Coils need to Pulse, CW or CCW, to operate properly.
SM spoke of his compass spinning up & coasting down when the TPU was shut off. I watched all of the Low Res Films, but none of them showed a compass.
Can you remember anything on that?
Thank you Jack for all of your contributions.
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Thank you for your support Jack & Sparks.
Jack, it would be of IMMENSE VALUE if you can remember which way the Compass Spun Up. Was it clockwise or CCW? That would tell everyone which way the Coils need to Pulse, CW or CCW, to operate properly.
SM spoke of his compass spinning up & coasting down when the TPU was shut off. I watched all of the Low Res Films, but none of them showed a compass.
Can you remember anything on that?
Thank you Jack for all of your contributions.
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Yes, SM is a Very Brilliant Man, but at the time he really didn't understand that the TPU output power was coming from the Aether Vortex.Now you tell me why my bulk three phase motor does not give me cold electricity.
Now you tell me why my bulk three phase motor does not give me cold electricity.Yes, please do! There is something here that is different from a standard motor, so two-phase four-coil is not the secret...
Let me say this one more time, there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.
When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.
EM
Let me say this one more time, there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.
When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.
EM
I see capacitors, so I agree with you there, on the toroid, it's one of the wires and some tape I believe, the other one I'm not sure, but there is a whole lot of tape connecting wires, and the spiral is just that, now there's another interesting feature inside, another spiral, I'll post a picture soon.
EM
P.S. Ok here it is. What's it for? Tunning? Delay coil?
Let me say this one more time, there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.
When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.
EM
I see capacitors, so I agree with you there, on the toroid, it's one of the wires and some tape I believe, the other one I'm not sure, but there is a whole lot of tape connecting wires, and the spiral is just that, now there's another interesting feature inside, another spiral, I'll post a picture soon.
EM
P.S. Ok here it is. What's it for? Tunning? Delay coil?
Sorry, could not resist
http://www.geocities.com/lemagicien_2000/elecpage/maxflash/maxflash.html :) (connect your control coil instead of NE2 there)
I've mistaken there... Control coil should be connected instead of flash light. NE2 is used as a triggering threshold there (kind of spark gap).Sorry, could not resistAleks great link man, i'll source some of these and try it out, taking extra care i dont electricute myself
http://www.geocities.com/lemagicien_2000/elecpage/maxflash/maxflash.html :) (connect your control coil instead of NE2 there)
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.
...it just doesn't add up, think about it.
By the way the Chineese got 200 of these little aether spinners field testing right now.Where you've got that from?
I see Spherics design. SM is alive and well he just got back from vacation.
The white thing in the middle is pulsed every time. The 3 control windings on the bottom ring are pulsed sequentially. The top disc is your collector winding with a current transformer wrapped around it to get the magnetic circulating current changed into voltage. The bailing wire feeds the magnetic field of the Earth into the lower layer windings field of influence. Gotta pulse that one too. Spherics left that out. I'm talking about the first TPU the one he shouldn't have shown anyone. Pride cometh before the fall.
And the Walls come tumbling down. Steven you ever figure out why it got hot? I know why and I know how to fix it. What I don't know is what kinda deal you got going with the rest of mankind that needs this tech fast. If someone has you under a rock tell them to fuck off! By the way the Chineese got 200 of these little aether spinners field testing right now.
Scalability limits the use of and size of any active components and batteries.I agree that scaling won't go well with MOSFETs or diodes - they all have some limit voltage they can cope with. However, device consisting of capacitor being charged by stepped up voltage and some kind of switch (mechanical or spark gap) are infinitely scalable. Then again, this is what Tesla used at his time.
Bye bye to SM's "receptors" "kicks" "collector coils" and hopefully Bedini's "Radiant Energy"too!No, not RE. Without "fifth force" there is no way an overunity can be created. If you believe SM TPU is about Earth's energy from 7.3 Hz or 5000 Hz, keep on dreaming you can shrink several miles-long antenna into 1 feet toroid.
The Earth is a big dynamo. If you can't see it spend some time on Nasa's site.So, now your theory deals with neutrions? Unfortunately, normal matter and EM waves can't interact with neutrinos that much (due to so called weak forces). Our human bodies are believed to be "bombarded" by 10^14 neutrinos each second, and that does not make any impact.
It pumps neutrinos into the poles of the earth as fast as the Sun can get them here.
Ask someone from the fifth dimension to tell you where the Chineese have their aether spinners going.That's subjective then, somebody's dreams.
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.
...it just doesn't add up, think about it.
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.
...it just doesn't add up, think about it.
Let me say this one more time, there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.
When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.
EM
So Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret. I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power generation, but he does have the secret.
Do you think he knows it?
The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation.
why does "starting the oscillation" have to mean "impulse excitation"? why can't it mean flipping a switch to close the loop and have the oscillations build up?
sm agreed with carl saying sequential pulsing of coils. that's not really possible without some electronics.
what if the coils are connected "sequentially"?
Where is the energy imbalance to start the reaction?
so consider this
scalabilty is no problem. Jack you know mosfets were available in the 80's when SM developed this tech. If those are fets in the ftpu, they are large package devices. high power is not required here, and the small blue unit obviously is a much later model and could have used surface mount mosfets...they are pretty small, and were available in the 90's. yes a small button battery or 2 may be all that is required to get the process going.
yes, the control boxes...a diversion? i really doubt that. if that's the case then you should be questioning everything you see on the ftpu (and all the others) as a possible diversion, including that spiral wrap thingy of yours, and the choke. see where this goes?
sm agreed with carl saying sequential pulsing of coils. that's not really possible without some electronics.
there are electronics in there, in some cases minimal, but there
QuoteWhere is the energy imbalance to start the reaction?
Like in oscillators (with the right gain and positive feedback) what starts the oscillations? It's the constant electrical noise, very small, but quickly can amplify and cause big signals.
Or, in a speaker/mic causing feedback and the ear pearcing ringing, what initiates that? Even the smallest actual audio noise.
However, he places a magnet there, that's quite something. Also notice he does not turn ON any switch or anything, he just places a magnet there. That's how the device starts it's operation. Got theories? I do.
EM
P.S. Here's some practical advice. Free you mind from all you heard from SM via Lindsay. Imagine that it was something else, and then look at the videos as if you never saw them before, and just take it in for what it's worth. It's easier than done, since our minds are so bent on "curvefitting" everyting we see into some theory or patern. After all, storage space is limited and "compression" of info must take place in our minds.
@ Marco
These people have no idea about how much energy is involved with the tpu. This isn't a sixth grade science project. Building without knowing what is going on is just not only stupid it is fucking dangerous.
so consider this
scalabilty is no problem. Jack you know mosfets were available in the 80's when SM developed this tech. If those are fets in the ftpu, they are large package devices. high power is not required here, and the small blue unit obviously is a much later model and could have used surface mount mosfets...they are pretty small, and were available in the 90's. yes a small button battery or 2 may be all that is required to get the process going.
yes, the control boxes...a diversion? i really doubt that. if that's the case then you should be questioning everything you see on the ftpu (and all the others) as a possible diversion, including that spiral wrap thingy of yours, and the choke. see where this goes?
sm agreed with carl saying sequential pulsing of coils. that's not really possible without some electronics.
there are electronics in there, in some cases minimal, but there
@JD
You say there is no battery because you do not conceive seeing him taking off all that tape. Who said you have to take all the tape off. If I had a battery in the small taped TPUs it would be under the first tape I removed, not the last. No one was every allowed to take one apart besides the cut-away. On the smallest taped TPU, you would have to take a look to see if a part of that wrinkled tape covering is newer then the rest. That would explain battery change. All the other devices all have their places for a battery. But right now I am concentrating on the FPTU.
@EM
I have been using the new VirtualDubMod with all those filters. But I really miss being able to zoom in and then pan around the image. Then do some forward/backwards movement. It's too bad I cannot pan or there is no scroll bars.
As for no pulsing. This is DC and if there is no pulsing, there is no primary to secondary coupling. The toroid would not produce current on that 8 laced black wire and you would just produce heat.
Let me show you somethings.
Photo ftpu-maybe-reed1.jpg shows A and B point. The A point is a connection with some spaghetti tube right next to the toroid and the magnet area. There could be a reed in there easy. The B point direct to the top of the toroid are where there is a same spaghetti connector just hanging over the toroid. You cannot see it in the photo because you have to play around with the image to see it but it is there. A is on the right half, B is on the left half. Why would you have this there?
Photo ftpu-battery1.jpg points to the underside center hole that is very bright for a hole. When you look closely, you will see what looks like the positive of a B type 1.5 volt battery. You can also see there is a wire there that just stops on the surface of the battery. Have you ever soldered a wire to a battery. lol
The picture you posted showing the three white wires rising from the center is very good also. When you follow these wires, you will see they are connected to the primary in the way shown in my animation. But that is not important right now.
I asked about Zener diodes on a previous post that I referred you guys to the Tesla Project thread. In the Tesla Project thread, we have shown that you can energize a circuit, make a short, and use the flyback. Making two movements for the price of one. And all that's required is a short. But I do not think SM was that advanced to think of the flyback.
The FPTU in probably using two loops, one low level loop that is isolated from the higher voltage loop coming from the primary/secondary action. The isolation is taking place in the toroid by the black wire that is laced through the toroid holes. I will get into this aspect soon but need a few more pieces of the puzzle. Looks like
Meanwhile............
1) If there are any EE guys like @eldarion that can make a quick mock up of the FTPU rings using two iron wires and a secondary wire and wrap four primaries of maximum 12 turns per quad, then connect as per the animation and do some alternating pulsing and measure the secondary output, this would help incredibly at this stage. You can then try other primary connecting schemes and polarities to finalize this section.
2) If there are any guys that have a virgin toroid core, make 4 holes on each half, lace a thin multi-strand wire through the holes, then wrap two coils on each half and do some testing, this again would help advance forward.
@Sparks
Better us than the six grader tho.. In my mind you always have to work for something, if you dont shed some pain and sweat you didnt really work for it. as well its much better if one of us gets the shit zapped outo of us or rad burns than some gradeschooler trying a project becase his family cant afford power anymore... This is a sad double eged sword but it has to be done.
I can tell you this, my Girlfriends dad who owns a family dairy farm paid approx 2.00 a gallon for diesel last year to fillt here fuel tanks below ground for the year. Small farmers dont make a whole lot so now take this, this year it will cost him over 5 dollars a gallon to fill the tanks for the year. That difference in gas was there profit .... now tahts gone and the poor guy and his father and there uncles work all day just to keep the animals allive and milk them. But there pay checks have gotten significantly smaller. 250 - 300 dollars a week isnt that much when your use to about 600 a week. When i see things like that happenign in life.. The cons of getting burned or shocked seem pretty insignificant.
PS.. when grandpa brought up the fact that he would buy horses and dig his old plows up if it came to it.. the issue kinda hit home with me
@jdurban,
Were you a witness to the use of the ampprobe? I ask because I would like to determine which cardinal direction the probe was facing when he found a good reading. If you weren't perhaps you can look at that video and determine it from other knowledge?
Thanks
So, what is known of this original European device?
So, what is known of this original European device?
That remains a mystery. There is at least one other device right here in the U.S. however.
These new images are Great, but i wonder who owns that footage and if anybody was given permision by the owner to publish it.
The information that I have is that the owner has not given permission ...none the less they are good videos and of great interest and i hope that it inspires more people to actually do experiments.
EM is right in suggesting that you persue this as if no information recieved so far is of any use..this is after all, a process,as is the destination. I know it seems cunfusing.
The only thing that I ever asked of Steven was a way to be able to understand it,perhaps thats why we see 2 or four, when three was mentioned.
The best of luck "the harder I work the more luck I seem to get"
Lindsay
We don't need verification tests.
And by the way Jack,
You have given not one answer about the thing itself in the inteview nor on this board.
The only thing you did do is release this video and thank you for that.
But you are now just adding to the noise because you have absolutley no idea about what it does, how it does that ,and why it does that.
M.
Let me say this one more time, there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.
When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.
EM
Absolutely correct. I don't thing there is anything more sophisticated than a capacitor in this entire device.
Thank you for your support Jack & Sparks.
Jack, it would be of IMMENSE VALUE if you can remember which way the Compass Spun Up. Was it clockwise or CCW? That would tell everyone which way the Coils need to Pulse, CW or CCW, to operate properly.
SM spoke of his compass spinning up & coasting down when the TPU was shut off. I watched all of the Low Res Films, but none of them showed a compass.
Can you remember anything on that?
Thank you Jack for all of your contributions.
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Thanks first of all.
Wish I could tell you but that demo was done after I already parted company. I do believe the story though as I know in my heart that what I felt was rotary or angular transfer of energy from coil to coil. The effect was tangible and not some sense of psychic interlude with the unknown!
Ok. That clip forces me to eat my words on batteries in the handy box but nothing else. It reinforces my views on counter wound coils, pc board mounted tuned inductors, Lenz collectors East and West under the magnets and grid coils.
That bulbous black thing behind the supposed pc board with a single large white wire coming out?
Try the head of a flyback yoke ;D
Can't wait to get a working copy of the better resolution!
@eldarion
Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.
I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.
@bep
Innovation calls the phenomenon of antennae gain from the field light chasing. You can make neutrinos spin they are the stuff that makes things heavy.
Anit-energy particles? Whatever they are we need em or there would be no mass. We don't need to spin them around in some mess wrapped up with black tape and say oh my this gets hot. Tesla's pancake coils will do just fine.
@bep
Innovation calls the phenomenon of antennae gain from the field light chasing. You can make neutrinos spin they are the stuff that makes things heavy.
Anit-energy particles? Whatever they are we need em or there would be no mass. We don't need to spin them around in some mess wrapped up with black tape and say oh my this gets hot. Tesla's pancake coils will do just fine.
some where i herd tesla states all coils in his pattends should be considered pancake .....
i herd this second hand and did not find his exact quote where tesla states this
ist
so why does the crystal radio work...?? cuz ORBIT ENGERY open loop ant. ;)
http://rapidshare.com/files/110662960/Steven_Marks_Tpu_Nachbau__Freie_Energie__Perpetuum_Mobili__Nikola_Tesla__Erdbatterie_.pdf.html
or
http://rapidshare.com/files/110662960/Steven_Marks_Tpu_Nachbau__Freie_Energie__Perpetuum_Mobili__Nikola_Tesla__Erdbatterie_.pdf.html?killcode=11507068132823965738
hey what would be the result if i plused my mot with low voltage and high amparge??? would it return high voltage high amparage? cuz the way it is it uses no amparge and such a tiny amount of voltageMeasure pulse energy in Joules. Amperage/voltage is a secondary thing, they should be interchangable in the case of pulsing.
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@ Chef
I am not saying that SM's design didn't work. It is just poorly designed and replication of a poorly designed machine is not going to make a better machine.
Take a look at SM's fingers and all the radiation burns. You don't need to have a rotating aether effect to get free energy.
As i see you already have many free "energy" to post every day new theorys, and talking lot of nonsense here.
Nonsense Prove it !
FTPU Spool Diameter: 4.5" (Not the diameter with the outer rings installed.)
FTPU Spool Height: 1" or 1.25"
FTPU Spool Diameter: 4.5" (Not the diameter with the outer rings installed.)
@meggarmanAnswer:
When you built your am radio did you ever understand where the power came from that came in on the antennae that you resonate.. I didn't say anything about a neutrino bomb. What do you think the magnetic field inside the tpu is spinning up? Do you have a clue as to what magnetic flux is?
     @eldarionLike I said, I think you mean *Neutron* not neutrino......duhhh
  You can make it any shape you want. The people who had the neutrino weapons that killed people and left buildings standing made them like a solenoid (total assholes). Â
P.S. I'm starting top agree with Marco - this IS becoming the joke of the century.
@MIke and Codewebs......wow cooooollllllllll, going to try it
@mikestocksHi wattsup,
Good work. I'm glad to see some are trying reeds and you discovered the magnet at the right angles makes it oscillate. If you try and find some normally closed reeds also and use them side by side to the NO reed connecting one of the ends together. This will enable you to send the flyback to another coil and check the secondary output of that one. Actually a three way reed is preferable but two reeds having the same specs except for NO and NC will do this. I think if the TPU was using reeds, the 20 minute run time is logical. A 3-way reed would enable reusing the flyback instead of having it return only to create heat and burn out the reed....
Mikestocks2006,I never said it was OU, where did you see that? Did you read my previous posts?
that's a nice little "passive" bemf pusler, but what relevance is that to the TPU?
i think this has been "discovered" dozens of times, it's not ou sorry to say.
so why use a reed switch mate? using a transistor or fet or hall sensor is pretty darn simple too...have you studied any bedini circuits?Hi poynt99
your operating frequency is at the mercy of the mag bias and coil surrounding the reed
radio shack had transistors and mosfets back then too, but assuming that all or most SM's parts came from radio shack is a pretty big assumption i think :o
ps I'm not sure if he used these for timing or if he used these for their intended purpose and used them for cleaning up the output.
http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Electrical_Measurements/Astatic_Galvanometer/Astatic_Galvanometer.html
glass table
if the tpu receives energy via electromagnetic fields, then blocking those with a large conductor would stop the operation. The effectiveness at blocking magnetic fields goes down with frequency, since a simple conductor relies on eddy currents to oppose the CHANGING magnetic field, and if it changes too slow, the eddy currents are to weak so not an effective blocking mechanism.
For slow magnetic fields, the best bloking scheme is a ferromagnetic enclosure, not just a simple conductor enclosure. For high frequency, then a thin aluminum sheet should do just fine.
At 5 kHz, I would think the bloking effectiveness is very low. So a good experiment that Steven should of done is to place the TPU inside a ferromagnetic box, and see if it still works.
EM
I don't think these are as large as the ones in the TPUs but similar.502-1 or 502-7 are worth trying. (well, if my theories are worthy at all ;) the latest find by GK suggests to build a PMH device and build everything around it.
Still looking. Take care.
nap
ps I'm not sure if he used these for timing or if he used these for their intended purpose and used them for cleaning up the output.
As i recall he said it Won't work in a small metal box...
M.
As you can see there is a lot of activity in the 5500 Hz range aswell as in the 16000 Hz range which is close to the television oscillator.Judging from the image, 16200 Hz to be more exact - that's exactly the third harmonic of 5400 Hz, which suggest some "symmetric" oscillation is taking place. This may well be square wave pulses at 5400 Hz. Well, since there is energy around 11kHz, some trace of saw-tooth oscillation is also present (though, it is not major).
I did also make a spectrum chart but i'm unable to locate that at the moment.
Can you explain how you are differentiating between square, saw, and sine on the Fourier Transforms?Sine wave is a single spectral component, without obvious connection to other frequencies. Obvious connections are: equally-spaced side bands and harmonic multiplies.
octave harmonic at 3.9936 kHz.It's won't be an 'octave harmonic', it will be a 500th overtone. :) 500*7.8...
akaWell, OK, you are right in this sense. However, physically it is much irrelevant since physical processes deal with harmonics mainly.
7.8 * (2^n) will give "octaves", where n = octave
P.S. @Marco, I not sure what you're looking at there, but there is no frequency content in the buzzing above 5 kHz, there is however a continuous 12 kHz and 17 kHz (approx) frequency that I see, which is not part of the buzzing sound, so I condensed the chart to the frequencies you see. I'll have to analyze the old video sounds, maybe they're different, which would mean distortion introduced due to resampling to a lower bit rate perhaps.
back side view, notice the double strand is clearly visible, AND the winding direction :)
Starcruiser, That is along the lines I was thinking.
The Torrid could be used to jack up the voltage and Freq. control and the Saturated
Inductor switch would be in any cable just by placing VERY thin material against
the wire. Put some tape over that and you are at exactly what the patent describes.
(Well the patent specs Coax, but even a wire pair would work.)
Just a thought.
Art.
Summary of Important Points From SM's Videos & Letters To Mannix:
1. Compass will spin up when turned on.
2. Never tune too closely to the exact frequencies
3. Make a Kill Switch with Over Voltage & Heat Sensors.
4. The control units are so very important to control the frequencies.
5. The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
6. First frequency, then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.
7. You could describe the useable current output of my coil as DC but with some hash in it.
8. There are 3 Control Coils (all the way around) each of the 3 Collector. Start them 1 at a time.
9. The ?TPU? units heat up to a potentially dangerous temperature after a considerable period of time
10. The Collector is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other. Other
control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.
http://www.kz1300.com/hfgc/This is somehow interesting. I was thinking about essense of speed of light limit for the last couple of days (well, years actually). I'm coming to a soft conclusion that speed actually translates to frequency in sub-atomic realm. You may compare that to a car's motor: the higher the frequency of rotation the higher the translatory speed. Since voltage is usually associated with the speed of electrons, voltage also affects some electron's internal frequencies (be it spin or anything else), and this frequency - in turn - may interact with AC frequency.
@Grumpy
SCR has a trigger input and anode and cathode leads.
this thread is going nowhere...
this thread is going nowhere...
So are you...
this thread is going nowhere...
So are you...
You are one to talk...
this thread is going nowhere...
So are you...
You are one to talk...
@Grumpy
You must admit this thread, at least, has torsion and spin ;D
I know some of you will disagree with this, but I really believe the following hypothesis:I am still at page 12, so, sorry if this has been covered already. I notice the mention of Floyd Sweet and remember one guy that went pretty far replicating his "Floyd Sweets SQM" resonating and creating lots of power just like these xTPUs (so many to name here). It is here http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Floyd_Sweet-Archive.html
Floyd Sweet just had a rotating Aether Vortex spinning between the 2 flat magnets. Edwin Gray had it spinning inside his special tube. Hubbard had it spinning inside his circumference of pulsing electromagnets. The TESTATICA Device has it spinning inside the two large cans. SM had it spinning inside sequentially pulsing control coils arranged in a Toroid. These are just different ways of accomplishing the same thing.
That is why most of SM's TPUs wouldn't work upside down. When he flipped them over, the spin came to a gradual stop. That also coincides with what SM called the "INERTIA EFFECT". In essence, SM proved that Aether will only spin in 1 direction in the northern hemisphere. When flipped over, no Aether spin = no output. Neither SM nor Floyd Sweet really knew the relevance of the spinning Aether Vortex.
Remember when Sweet accidentally shorted the 2 output wires & ICE formed. Aether Spin in Coils Produces COLD ELECTRICITY!
Remember in one video where SM said "Now you tell me why it won't work upside down." Yes, SM is a Very Brilliant Man, but at the time he really didn't understand that the TPU output power was coming from the Aether Vortex.
I think the foregoing facts are very important for a TPU Design Concept.
@Grumpy
You are right about the speculating, but I think most would rather speculate on something that has been keenly observed then having to speculate on the wind and the waves or on parables. We have been mulling over these devices for over a year and anything that can help point us in the right direction is surely worth it. Granted, some may feel that increasing the points of discovery will take the fun or the challenge out of this. Say what?
As far as this thread going nowhere - you ain't seen nothing yet!
But you know what, while some are working their asses off trying to put these pieces together, others are more worried if they are right or wrong about the ether having a vanilla or chocolate flavor (when we all know it's wild cherry). lol
Come on already, we need help here. Hello..........no one home. Ahhh Forget it!
By the way, what's it to you anyways?
QuoteI know some of you will disagree with this, but I really believe the following hypothesis:I am still at page 12, so, sorry if this has been covered already. I notice the mention of Floyd Sweet and remember one guy that went pretty far replicating his "Floyd Sweets SQM" resonating and creating lots of power just like these xTPUs (so many to name here). It is here http://www.hyiq.org/Library/Floyd_Sweet-Archive.html
Floyd Sweet just had a rotating Aether Vortex spinning between the 2 flat magnets. Edwin Gray had it spinning inside his special tube. Hubbard had it spinning inside his circumference of pulsing electromagnets. The TESTATICA Device has it spinning inside the two large cans. SM had it spinning inside sequentially pulsing control coils arranged in a Toroid. These are just different ways of accomplishing the same thing.
That is why most of SM's TPUs wouldn't work upside down. When he flipped them over, the spin came to a gradual stop. That also coincides with what SM called the "INERTIA EFFECT". In essence, SM proved that Aether will only spin in 1 direction in the northern hemisphere. When flipped over, no Aether spin = no output. Neither SM nor Floyd Sweet really knew the relevance of the spinning Aether Vortex.
Remember when Sweet accidentally shorted the 2 output wires & ICE formed. Aether Spin in Coils Produces COLD ELECTRICITY!
Remember in one video where SM said "Now you tell me why it won't work upside down." Yes, SM is a Very Brilliant Man, but at the time he really didn't understand that the TPU output power was coming from the Aether Vortex.
I think the foregoing facts are very important for a TPU Design Concept.
Fausto.
here's one build it, and play with it and wallah what a fluke you got something, and learn from it
I just did an experiment again to verify the catalytic properties of a kick. I wrapped some copper magnet wire around a fluorescent bulb and put it to the output of a 4watt cb radio. Then I pulsed the heater filament with 12volt while keying the mike with a rubber band. The 40watt bulb lit not totally but at least 25percent. If I talked into the mike you could see it on the bulb output.
You could also hear me speaking on my son's guitar amplifier upstairs (which was immediatelly reported with a degree of outrage) and my crystal radio receiver buzzed like a bumble bee. I imagine any cb radio user on channel 16 could hear me and the bulb also. Just 4watts making a billion trillion molecules jump around. 8)
oh the sound track is out of sinc by some 12.5 secs aswell on my copy it is. :o
@ Sparks
Have you read this?
http://electrodynamics.org.uk/
http://www.unifiedtheory.org.uk/
There is something useful?
I'll wait your posts
Thanks
Turz
I read Marco's PDF again yesterday and now understand that Jack Durban is right - SM did not invent this device. He reverse-engineered one that he acquired somewhere.
If I had to guess....a capacitor... perhaps this one?
OOOOOOOOOhhhhh!!!! a crystal! Whoa! Stop the presses!
either could produce "sustained oscillations"
On the open-TPU - the second one - the bifilar wires - where is the collector?
The square things that SM places magnets on top of - why are these wrapped in tape? What sort of device has this shape?
OOOOOOOOOhhhhh!!!! a crystal! Whoa! Stop the presses!
either could produce "sustained oscillations"
On the open-TPU - the second one - the bifilar wires - where is the collector?
The square things that SM places magnets on top of - why are these wrapped in tape? What sort of device has this shape?
In the diagram you will notice three rings colored orange, blue and yellow. I have done this to separate the ring windings. The orange ring is the horizontal loop collector. The blue ring is the first primary vertical winding called the control coils. The yellow ring will show the thin wire coil known as the feedback. Just remeber that the blue and yellow ring are actually wound over the orange ring.
wattsup
@Milestock
This thing of SM's produces a turbine like magnetic field that is guided by the copper collector.
It's not your usual turns to turns voltage increaser. The actual magnetic field spin is being stored in the collector copper so all bets are off as far as the tpu acting as a voltage transformer. The real majic is down in the kick windings. Spike catalyst conversion of atomic mass to translatory energy.
Speaking of a ROTATING FIELD to drive the TPU. Every PC Fan Motor has a Brushless Motor. If you take it apart, it is a 3 PHASE MOTOR. There is a small circuit board with Transistors that create 3 Phase Power to drive the Motor Coils. Brilliant design at Low Cost. However, because it has transistors, it can be EASILY damaged by over voltage spikes!!
I had a PC Fan once that was making a Growling Noise. It turned out to be 1 PHASE OUT. The Motor was still barely turning on 2 Phases. Amazing little things.
My Question is: COULD a PC 3 Phase Fan Circuit Board be used to drive 3 Control Windings on a TPU?
My Question is: COULD a PC 3 Phase Fan Circuit Board be used to drive 3 Control Windings on a TPU?
Also right behind the crystal, I think I can see a potentiometer. lol
Would a pot be required with a crystal?
I read Marco's PDF again yesterday and now understand that Jack Durban is right - SM did not invent this device. He reverse-engineered one that he acquired somewhere.
what evidence is there that led you to believe this?
- SM eventually gets the replicas working, but does not mention what the stupid reason was
- SM eventually gets the replicas working, but does not mention what the stupid reason was
it has been menioned a few times
- SM eventually gets the replicas working, but does not mention what the stupid reason was
it has been menioned a few times
it's not the pcb material or the fact the components need to be raised, and it's not the fact the components need to be inside the ring, because at this stage he's still using tubes, so what was it then?
If just these two little things are important discoveries, how far off are all the guys out there trying design their own control devices? So tell them what I have said and listen to them all scream balderdash!! Haresy!!! And then you can tell them that we found out way back then...
It is because the material some PC boards are made out of can absorb humidity... So.... depending on the conditions of humidity of the specific day, the boards would change the characteristics of the SS control circuits.
It took us a long time just to find that little thing out... we never thought of it. no one ever thought of it.... BUT, it turned out to be a very significant thing and so we used the absolute finest PC board material the government used in missiles and rockets... You see, even though no one knows about the PC board material being important to sensitive instruments and SS devices, the government did... So we learned, and learned...
YES, reaction has played a part in the development of my technology.
YES, we also used two different metals in the development of the technology.
NO, it is not easy to sink the heat from the unit whilst in operation. This is because:
Any large piece of metal, including aluminum, placed close to the unit will change it's operational characteristics, and so it stops, etc. You can operate the unit in close proximity of metal but not bolted to it.We tried to make a water proof unit and submerge it in water but that proved to be a disaster!
Aye, therein lies the rub.
What if this is really because his toroid core is actually a NeoMagnet.
I met Jack Durban in 1994. He does not have the original footage. He surreptitiously recorded it from my VHS demonstration to him. I hired Durban on several projects. He's a crackpot!
I know the whereabouts of Steven and the info on UEC...
Mercury Marilla
mercurymmm@yahoo.com
@EM
Good to see you back.
Are you preferring bare iron wire or tapping over the iron wire before making the 3 loops.
.....
life and survival to the third world. So anyway as I sit here after another 16 hour day designing the same old consumer electronics products day in and day out, year after year, making millionaires more millions
Now....Guess who just left a message on my voice mail at 5AM?
You got it!
Steven Mark or at least that the screaming ranting voice I heard. The caller ID says "Steven Mark".
Its a 714 area code which covers nearly all of Orange County.
He says I am a dead man for saying what I said on the "radio show....
More to come but my little scheme seems to have paid off!
I was amazed just how many swear words could fit on a one minute message!
Now....Guess who just left a message on my voice mail at 5AM?
You got it!
Steven Mark or at least that the screaming ranting voice I heard. The caller ID says "Steven Mark".
Its a 714 area code which covers nearly all of Orange County.
He says I am a dead man for saying what I said on the "radio show....
More to come but my little scheme seems to have paid off!
I was amazed just how many swear words could fit on a one minute message!
After listening to the message again I am going to contact the Sheriff's department. There's enough threats here to be a little concerned not for myself but I do have a family...
Will SM go to jail?
Will he ever disclose the truth behind the TPU?
*Stay tuned folks for the next episode. ;D
Very nice balanced post Jack, thanks for explaining more of the context. Welcome back.
@all,
well, it seems SM is alive and well, and is the only one who knows how the device works. Wouldn't it be nice if he would just have a change of heart and just tell us how it's done in no uncertain terms. Gas prices are taking off and this summer is going to be hell. Saudi arabia just refused to increase oil production (in todays news) not good !!
EM
I can't add anything to the discussion and I am bored of the small handful of malcontents in here that contribute nothing but juvenile barbs like Marco.
Jack
Hi Jack,
looking forward to hear the answering machine message from SM.
Good to know, that SM is still alive.
You can upload it also over here in 5 Mbytes pieces:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=upload
If it is bigger than 5 Mybtes, you can split it via WinRAR.
I never believed that you won?t know anymore about all the people like the lawyer and some investors
and you always did not answer these questions..
So we now know, that you still know more about it,but you won?t want to tell,
cause you want to play your games...
We also know that you don?t know the technology behind the TPU.
Well, at least we got a better video
and you admitted to me, that you copied it secretely without Mercury knowing
about it. So you basically stole it.
Also , surely you can do some spherical 3D sounds via noise generators and notch
filters !
All modern digital filter pseudo 3D sound systems work this way.
I worked at Tangerine Dream sound studio and experimented a lot with
synthesizers and electronic music in the 1980s and
SM and Daves Doleshal even have a patent on the pseudo 3D technology.
Well, real multichannel speaker audio surely sounds better, maybe this is why
SM has faked the setup on the CES show ?
We thank you, that you have brought us the (stolen) higheres video tape copy
and in reverse you have gotten some free advertising for your company from over here,
so I hope it paid out for you.
So maybe some other people will still come forward
who have been at the scene with SM and tell more
in the future.
Regards, Stefan.
Hide the kids even the dog.
http://rapidshare.com/files/115423959/SM_16MAY08.wav
Irate homosexuals can be so testy.
For Steven only
http://rapidshare.com/files/115428295/Steven_Mark_messages.wav
Stefan you are the supreme asswipe here. There was plenty I didn't share with you because I sensed you were a low life. You are so transparent. Be nice while you are in milking mode and switch to the real you when you sense the cow dried up. What a coward. And don't try your hand at audio work you obviously don't know dick about engineering. Just sit here like a vulture milking everyone for what you can't muster yourself.
So will you now return the stolen video footage or are you just another hypocrite?
You are a sad excuse for a human being you coward.
Now make sure you edit this out before the flock gets rattled.
Now....Guess who just left a message on my voice mail at 5AM?
You got it!
Steven Mark or at least that the screaming ranting voice I heard. The caller ID says "Steven Mark".
Its a 714 area code which covers nearly all of Orange County.
He says I am a dead man for saying what I said on the "radio show....
More to come but my little scheme seems to have paid off!
I was amazed just how many swear words could fit on a one minute message!
He seam to be very angry! :)
It will be made available to a select few here that deserve it. You know who you are.
What happend to your open source "Joomla" view ??
Keep your video and especially keep your mouth!
I knew you were one big joke.
Go play with your video, it's all you have......
M.
well give the guy a break man.
99% of those here don't know about those things. i guess that means we're practically all insignificant according to you. maybe you should start your own elite group then. he has no idea how it works, yes he more or less admits that, and also he never said he did...so what?
i'd be happy to read your full discourse on the TPU's principle of operation....did we miss it?
i'm sure there is plenty Jack knows that you have no clue about also...so what? that's not the point is it?
"start your own elite group then"well good for y'all ;)
We already have
"i'd be happy to read your full discourse on the TPU's principle of operation....did we miss it?"great, the link/file?
Why yes , yes you did
Looks to me like Jack is the one flying off the handle here and is unable to answer any question you all have in any kind of straight forward way. Seems Jack has no knowledge of the TPU itself only knowledge of some freaky social life that happen back in the day when the creation of this device was born or reborn as it were.who said JD was an expert on the TPU? he answered all the questions that he could answer, the rest he doesn't know. why is that such a difficult concept to embrace? i have asked many questions here and not a single one has been answered, so does that place the guys here in the same category as you have placed Jack? i've got many questions if you would like to answer them. why should Jack be able to answer them if you can't??? he held the devices and saw them function, that's it. he wasn't allowed to disassemble them or study them in any great detail, so get off your high horses guys it's making me ill reading all this crap. get over yourselves already!
Grumpy has at least told you what you should be looking for and studying. But then again most of you want nothing to do with how it works and the processes there in . You just want schematics dropped in your lap showing you how to wire it all up without the knowledge of the scary tempic fields to learn about.yes grumpy has done much good here when he avoids his sarcastic tendencies.
What a crazy place this has become. No wonder so many "elite" builders have moved on.can't really disagree here, but many of these "elites" are just as guilty as the rest for the kind of posts that were made in the last 16 hours or so.
I pried.
How does it work?
I could sum it up by saying "time", but you would not understand. I could say he alters the density of space, but you would not understand. I could say that a torsion field has inertia but you do not know that a rotating tempic field is a torsion field, so you ignore it. I say to look at the work of Dollard or Smith or Nipher, or Reontgen - but you never move.
Pry yourself out of your self-induced coma or stay there. I pried.
As I wait for Leno to come on I am puzzled by the term "Elite" on this forum. Is this just a title awarded by number of posts? I see so called elites like "Grumpy' spewing nothing but hate and discontent without any real and tangible information. He, like Steven uses all kinds of self aggrandizing jargon and jibberish without anything to show for it.
After all the heat I have taken from these social misfit blow hards I can't help but ask if they have accomplished anything besides all the mental masturbation I have witnessed. I have not spent a moment trying to replicate this technology since I saw it 12 years ago and yet many if not most of the "elders" here are very, very likely no futher along than I am as a bystander.
This site looks more and more like a hangout for the infirmed looking for unearned respect and admiration.
To the younger crowd here that I have had the pleasure to communicate with I urge you to find better digs and leave this tired old windbag laden forum to the resident hacks that will do no more for than tell you that you don't understand some contrived drunken stupor induced drivel. It's like the Moose lodge on steroids in here.
If you really want to accomplish anything regarding this technology you must isolate yourselves from this old folks home and focus on real science and not cheap jargoneering and name dropping. Its one thing to endure the tortured logic and misinterpreted math and science from the like of Steven Mark and and others but to see this already concocted terminology receive further spin and aggrandizement is just pathetic.
In the old days we just parked grandpa in the corner and just kept his drink filled. In here Grandpa would definitely be an elite.
This all from a Grandpa of just today 2 grandchildren.
huff pufff yada yada blah blah
Carbon has some very unusual properties, including the ability to bond easily with other small atoms, very high melting point.
Carbon has some very unusual properties, including the ability to bond easily with other small atoms, very high melting point.Carbon has a lot of excess electrons, much higher resistance than copper, it is available as a cord that is insulated.
How does it work?
I could sum it up by saying "time", but you would not understand. I could say he alters the density of space, but you would not understand. I could say that a torsion field has inertia but you do not know that a rotating tempic field is a torsion field, so you ignore it. I say to look at the work of Dollard or Smith or Nipher, or Reontgen - but you never move.
Pry yourself out of your self-induced coma or stay there. I pried.
snip
You might want to read my previous post on PARAMETRIC excitation, and if you want to understand why DC voltage gets produced, read and contemplate my posting in "inCOMPLETE information on working SM style device"
EM
i_ron, look one level above this thread (under Steven Mark's TPU devices) and you will see the thread, it's towards the bottom.
I took a quick screen grab close to the magical frequency so you can see the crazyness that begins to happen. Look how the peak start to "bridge" together. As I get closer and closer to that frequency, more and more peaks begin to bridge together into a solid DC level, it's so awesome, I have no idea why that's happening quite like that. Also I should mention the buzzing is there, and the TPU gets loud and hums , and everything gets hot and I start to smell smoke. It's some interesting resonance that's hit parametricaly, and oh, you think the magnet is for looks, not so, the magnet is crucial, if I reverse the polarity of it nothing happens, it biases the internal laminated steel ribon in the area of the sector coils...
I'll tell you more later.....
EM
How can you alter the density of space?
How can you generate a rotating torsional field?
The secret has already been cracked...
There only remains one compelling question that I need clarification on and that is a statement Steven made to me regarding the U.S. Government taking ownership of the technology. Why would a private company like U.E.C. pay Steven a salary for exclusive rights to a technology that is restricted by the feds?
Update on the hunt for Steven Mark.
Finally, after using every trick in the book to get someone to surface, Steven Mark the real Steven Mark indeed surfaced and after a couple days threats and counter threats we covered a lot of old ground and parted as friends. I offered to correct any errors I made regarding statements I made here or at PESwiki.
Regardless what you might think of my tactics I succeeded in my mission which was to determine if Steven was still among the living and if so if there was any chance of revisiting the TPU project.
Steven is doing fine. Unfortunately he did sell the rights to U.E.C. as reported around the net. He cannot be of any help even if he wanted to.
There only remains one compelling question that I need clarification on and that is a statement Steven made to me regarding the U.S. Government taking ownership of the technology. Why would a private company like U.E.C. pay Steven a salary for exclusive rights to a technology that is restricted by the feds?
I can't see how these two conditions can co-exist.
If there is a National Security restriction on this technology there is little doubt that this site is being monitored and anyone openly disclosing such a technology is going to be investigated.
Hope I helped in some way with the video and what little input I could share. Good luck to the good guys here and may you bring OU to the planet!End of movie
Roll credits
Thanks for the info, I have also a question, he maybe sell the right but does SM have a patent about this device?
Naval intelligence and DOE have the keys to free energy but choose to keep it secret. F*ck them and f*ck the self-important prick Steven Mark. Mankind deserves the opportunity to explore the stars and live in peace. They can't hold back the technology forever. >:(
"self-important prick Steven Mark"? You would not have shit without SM - not a f*king thing. His "discovery" has set you f*king free.
Tell me, what do we have after all these years? I have not seen a fully replicated unit yet. SM could easily just tell us how it works but instead he gives us a game with "clues" and "hints". (-Assuming the SM letters are genuine.) Screw confidentiality agreements. How can he stand by and watch people die needlessly around the world from poverty, hunger and war? He knows what the implications are but chose personal gain above his fellow man.
In my book, he is a selfish prick.
People die - such is life. SM had no choice - offer he could not refuse. The fact that he existed at all has set you free. You condem SM for his burden, but you can not carry the same.
Bunch of insolent pricks on this site - dung of the earth and the piss of the buffalo.
Negative on any patents.
makes me wonder why SM mentioned control patents then ???
I met Jack Durban in 1994. He does not have the original footage. He surreptitiously recorded it from my VHS demonstration to him. I hired Durban on several projects. He's a crackpot!what about this man
I know the whereabouts of Steven and the info on UEC...
Mercury Marilla
mercurymmm@yahoo.com
....maybe using carbon wire ain't so goofy after all.Carbon has some very unusual properties, including the ability to bond easily with other small atoms, very high melting point.Carbon has a lot of excess electrons, much higher resistance than copper, it is available as a cord that is insulated.
Re: Jack Durban
He came
He lied
He got what he wanted
He went!
I think Jack had fooled himself into thinking there is a way of making a commercial TPU.
I know we won't see him round here again!
Did I work with you several years ago? You seam very familiar?
I ignore your attempt to yank my chain...
"If there is a National Security restriction on this technology there is little doubt that this site is being monitored and anyone openly disclosing such a technology is going to be investigated."
here's more info on my setup. thanks for the suggestions eldarion
There are lots of effects happening so I'll just mention a few.
1) Notice I use a diode to prevent the kickback from burning out my transistor and the energy that goes in the toroid basicaly gets wasted in the resistance of the windings, which is what I wanted (later I will cycle back the energy) Now, this was no problem as I was putting in very little power (millivolts from my 8 AA battery stack, about 10 volts) Everything runs cold like it did in other blocking oscillators I built before. (I love these oscillators :) )
However, when I adjust the pot just a bit more suddenly my 4Amp rated diode started smoking, transistor heatsink got hot as hell, but the waveform didn't change all that much at the collector of the transistor. The input miliamps went up a bit but not that much, so somehow extra energy was kicking back, and I did notice my input voltage started to float a bit higher than 10 volts to 12 or so, as if the loading eased off. All is very strange, especially that waveform. I was thinking the same as eldarion that the transistor is not shutting off, but it seems to be and the "bridging" between the peaks is quite unexpected and unexplainable and seems to jump around in an orderly fashin as if it's due to some rotation perhaps (left to right drift across the scope screen). I alway thought the DC got produced as a gradual rise in the waveform due to some rotation, and perhaps this is not quite it and I'm observing something else.
2) I was scoping the collector spikes and I started to move my magnet around. when I placed it exactly at the symetry point (at 12:00 o'clock position up top) a DC bias appeared across all the spikes, maybe 5 volts or so. That was very interesting as well. The magnet is realy important.
3) Sounds are very interesting. As I increase the frequency the scope and the sound confirm the frequency is going higher. But when I approach this particular frequency where things begin to happen, the sound seems to go lower, while the frequency (per the scope) goes higher. I also find this odd.
4) I placed a very high value capacitor (like SM uses in the LTPU, those yellow caps) and I got very nice pure sinusoids at half the pump frequency, parametrically pumped. But no strange effects. So, this makes me think the secret lies with a particular combination of frequencies that hit some magical acoustic frequency of the core in conjunction to the parametric excitation and who know what else, perhaps a fluctuation in the magnetic field that surrounds us, or even NMR. These devices sure need a lot of studying to find out exactly what is occuring.
Anyway, I will be changing the configuration and pumping the symetry coils and looking for a DC potential across the taps of it (it's that finding the potential task). This was what I was going to do in the first place as per the theory but I was just trying to get my oscillator going so I made this change and stumbled on this interesting interaction.
EM
Hi Stefan, there is no iron wire, the only iron is the core, it is a roll of steel ribbon, found it on the ground close to the Shipping and Receiving area of a company, probably used to tie down boxes or wooden crates.
EM
well, the ribon layers are not isolated, ( it was a long strip and I wound it up like a roll of tape.) It was a bit rusty too, so I figure it's ok, the surface resistance should be high enough.
The heat came from the diode and the transistor, I did not touch the core. At the time I smelled the smoke, I was watching the scope and how the peaks were "bridging" together into long chains and the sounds where changing, all was very exciting, so when I smelled the smoke I quickly unpluged the battery and touched the diode and I got burned, thing was unbelivably hot. Then I touched the transistor heatsink (coutiously this time) and it was very hot as well. Like I said, just a short frequency away the thing was running cold, and not just for a few seconds, for minutes.
As far as the "output" I'm not sure what to call an output at this point I was looking to see what happens with the setup and if I can get parametric oscillations. The briging waveform was a few volts, and depends highly on the polarity of the magnet to bias the core, if I reverse the polarity it's almost in the noise floor. Magnet is key. On the other hand, in a later experiment I was looking at the bias winding, but this time a bit away from that specific frequency, and I could see spikes up to 60 volts, perhaps I'm writing from memory now and I'm mixing things up since the diode would short that out, but perhaps that's why it gets hot.
EM
@Grumpy
Go talk to the BOSS he may have a new attitude
It is a slightly smaller unit than what is in the TPU's, but looks to be the same style.
I have been wondering and looking at that same thing. THIS IS the only common point in ALL the
SM tpu's,
@ EM , Some time ago I did a similar design to make a super degauss for TV sets. very dangerous ! It had some strange affects at different freqs, i tried explaining this the Dr Snoswell but it it had been a while and really didn't understand it so i let it go. I did run across a blog that the university of Mexico was working on something similar and had similar results and failures. You might want to look into this. and yes my coil was the same material as your using steel banning. 4 quadrants that were sequenced around the perimeter and crossed quadrant field gave the strange results. there may be some time compression at this point and excels very fast. remember I was using it as a super degauss do not try this !! the power factor gos up by pulling the Field out of the tube. what I did was try it from the back of the tube by the yoke and all hell broke lose and almost killed me.
@All
The Feedback
Finally figured it out. The microphone is not the ring or the control coil.
We all know that a DC current sent into a coil produces a field that by itself does nothing
There is no Earth field North and South phenomenon.
Guys, gather round for a minute.
SM was in audio. I know this may sound stupid, but do I ever care. (Actually I do.) lol
The way the FTPU center toroid is dimensioned is very particular.
I have not been able to find such toroids on the market. None. Yes I have been looking all over. Those center toroids are not ferrite. From my own tests, no ferrite with so few winds would do anything to influence such a massive toroid core. They're not laminated iron and they're not iron powder either.
If it is the toroid I am thinking of it is just a catalog item that I have used a lot of over the years in switching power supplies for filtering.
The dimension issue I am talking about is more the center opening is smaller then usual toroid cores. This makes it a much thicker toroid core. Now curiously, I have seen this dimension before but not in toroids......?
Are you talking about the choke in the center? If so that is readily available.
I am now sure the center toroid core is a speaker magnet that he painted white enamel. This explains some edge shadows that are inconsistent with a factory made toroid core. Onto this he wound two field perturbation primaries.
We all know that a DC current sent into a coil produces a field that by itself does nothing, just like a speaker magnet left on a table will do nothing. Move the magnet over a wire and you make power, except in this case you don't move the magnet, you perturb the magnet field. When you release it, it returns to where it was for free. Two... Two...... Two movements in one. You push it out, stop, it comes back. This moves the field over the collectors. So 3000 cycles out makes 3000 free cycles in. The return cycles are not a field collapse, it is simply another magnetic field movement which is additive.
DC on a coil produces a DC flux.
What's even better with two primaries is you can use @allcanadians circuit to make two movements in one pulse. All you need is a Tesla short circuit. Add that to the two free returns makes four movements with one pulse. What a deal.
Now if you have a center speaker and you have an outer coil ring making like a microphone, what do you get? Feedback. This feedback is what makes the current flow in the system. I would bet top dollar that in the FTPU spool center is a speaker coil. The speaker magnet is doing two things. It permit a speaker coil to oscillate so it can make feedback with a microphone, and it provides the field that is deflected by the two primary coils.
I can't see a microphone playing a role in this device. It would be too susceptible to ambient noise in demos where the slightest clipping would cause the mic to run out of headroom thus losing feedback.Also... this comes back to scalability. The smallest unit is the reference for testing such theories. If it can't be done on the little TPU it should be discarded.
But there's more.........
Now you choose. Which is the microphone and which is the collector, the ring or the control coil. Feedback is the best return loop. No SS components required. The junction is through the air.
One major reason SM said not to go near the tpu with a piece of metal, and he told the others to remove watches and rings, was simply because the metal would immediately stick to the magnet and give away the secret. Plus such an impact would risk ruining the coils. lol
Considering that the vast majority of jewelry items are non-ferrous materials like gold and stainless steel I would discount this SM statement as another decoy. This theory is supported by the TPU that was demonstrated on top of the stack of VHS decks. Can't get much more metallic than a steel chassis.
The center toroid mounting bracket with the two terminals on a toroid with two coils does not make sense. You would need four terminals if this was an off the shelf design, but there's only two, sooooooooooo. This is simply a bracket for terminals going to a speaker coil. He put a white padding between the bracket and the toroid magnet to protect the toroid windings. The padding may also have a dielectric issue since he places the small magnet to these terminals.
The magnet has to be in the center of the collector.
A while back I had put up a video of moving litz wires located here that shows this effect. Somewhat similar to @marco's dancing magnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXgL4Wf8zrQ
I know this sounds (no pun intended) like very simplistic gibber jabber, but the parts fit in so well.
I think I am now ready to make a FTPU build. I will need some help on the EE side.
@JD
I have a question.
Did SM have access to speaker components such as bulk speaker magnets, speaker coils, speaker coil terminals and terminal to coil wires, etc., or, did he have access to speakers from which he could have removed these?
Steven recently told me again that he did not know how the device worked. It just did.
JD, please don't take this the wrong way.
The only thing I wanted to say was, if the center "Torrid" or "Choke" is an output filter, and on the
Large TPU, I understand that a comercial grade 50A fuse was blown by shorting it across the output,
then wouldn't that have melted the wires on that choke. I'm NOT saying it wasn't an output filter,
but the amount of power that fuse would use to blow would seem to be beyond what the choke could
handle. The resistance of that choke would be enough that the fuse would last longer than the wire on
the choke? Now, if it were cold electricty.... Or multiple winds in parallel.....
I holding on to your statement, for the time being, but I feel there may be a grey area there. Glad to hear
you got back with SM. Hope that he can get a little pride out of all that his device has caused here.
Please, give him our (or at least mine) regards and wish him all the best. After what he must have
gone through at the time, I doubt he would ever want to even hear about the happenings here, never
mind even think about being involved, but at least he should be comforted that his ideas were not
lost on the world, and the concept lives on.
Art.
OK here it is wound.Well, it does not look like a "normal" coil design. Magnets are rarely used as core, no? I would speculate that central toroid is just a pure electromagnet winding, no permanent magnets are necessary. I had an unrelated idea in the past, of an obvious electro-dynamic speaker: the one which bends ferromagnetic metal by means of electromagnet's varying force. This is a highly non-conventional design (compare it to conventional speaker drivers), but it may be what is going on in the TPU (if the central toroid is an electromagnet).
Thank you Jack Durban for your efforts and thanks Steven Marks for this amazing device.
No offence intended to anyone here. I am very puzzled how this whole story is becoming very close to soap operas in Brasil. We have an inventor, a scientist and a group of intelectuals in one forum, We have the device in video and lots of theories. All these puzzles could easily be solved by simple words of the creator Steven Marks which according to Jack Durban is here already with us, reading and seeing all this drama.
Why dont we get this to the end NOW, there is no better time than NOW. It would be one post from Steven or Jack after talking to each other and that would be the end of this whole problem, why that is not happening???? UEC, FBI, CIA what is the point? It sounds just like a soap opera a big lie.
The device is in video, the inventor is here BUT NO EXPLANTIONS, no help really, just a ghost trail, a duck hunt but no ducks. Can not we get this thing explained fast and easy?
Fausto.
After reading Steven Mark?s letters to Lindsay (for the ??? time), I find it interesting that Steven suggests that he has given enough information that would enable a studious experimenter to replicate the device in some reasonable amount of time. He talks about the principle of operation and the coils in general terms, but nothing about the electronic components and/or ?multiple? frequencies needed, even in general terms. He has hidden the release of that information behind ?non-disclosure? and government agreements.
Even if one was to determine the correct construction of the coils, Steven in his own words in one of his first letters posted by Lindsay states, ?It has been a very long road from beginning to end. It took several years of experimentation to discover what frequencies and most importantly how to make small integrated circuits work to perform the control functions necessary to make the demonstrations you see on the video tapes available today.? From his own statement, he is saying that it took him ?several years? to discover the frequencies and integrated circuits to make the device operate after he had apparently determined the required coil design to use.
Based on the above, those who possess a similar electronic knowledge/ability that Steven had (whether great or small) can look forward to years of experimentation to replicate his device. Either he is telling the truth about the complexity of determining the correct frequencies and circuits, or he is lying. If he is telling the truth, expect years to replicate his device. If he is lying, ?Good Luck? in replicating the device in a shorter length of time.
I think Steven is not concerned that anyone is going to replicate his device any time soon. I really hope I am proven wrong.
@All
Would the following circuit be ok to amplify a microphone. It only has 4 componets. lol
http://www.tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=367.
Jack,
would you still say that Steven is of the "cashier level"
or was that all just so that you could flush the guy out?
I think that you might consider apolagising for each and every distainful and insulting remark that you made about him ,now that you have what you want.
Its probable that this is not something that you would consider necessary
Lindsay
@watssup
i found this on the net its a simple circuit to build a inverter for blacklight lamps you could use your coils in the circuit and it should oscillate by itself, without a microphone. consider the lamp as the load.
@JD
When feedback is on, you can yell "turn it off, turn it off", and it won't change the feedback until you either move the microphone or flick the switch off or unplug the amp. And, it will feedback at a frequency which is also an oscillation. The TPU diameter will influence the frequency and the diameter is determined by the circumference. lol
By the way, if you ever manage to find that Beta copy, we're all eyes.
Actually I did go over all this with Steven and he was just fine after the smoke cleared! There's nothing left to want. For myself and many others there is closure on a handful of long outstanding issues. For those who wished Steven harm they were denied his phone number and email address. I only want peace and happiness for him and his family.
I should conclude this as some will see this as soap operatic.
A microphone like any other mechanical structure will have a natural resonant frequency.It's going to be very high if you consider e.g. a 5mm diaphragm (or alike structural size for piezo mic). If speed of sound in the structure is e.g. 2000m/s then the "uncontrollable" resonant frequency will be around 400kHz, that's pretty much above the projected excitation frequency (which is around 5kHz).
@watssupI think it's a wrong deal. What the purpose of random self-oscillation? Self-oscillation should be structural and that means that mechanical coupling to external toroid is required. Your scheme does not show means to do it: induction feedback does not necessarily mean it will lock to the required structural resonance. Mic can be attached anywhere on the toroid to catch the required resonance.
i found this on the net its a simple circuit to build a inverter for blacklight lamps you could use your coils in the circuit and it should oscillate by itself, without a microphone. consider the lamp as the load.
and if the amplitude is strong enough it could destroy the microphone. Analogies anyone.Nope, it won't destroy microphone in almost any case: it may only saturate it, but to break it you have to put much more acoustic vibratory energy than your ears may even bear.
....
I should conclude this as some will see this as soap operatic.
Hey guys,
This man gave EVERYONE the answer to the SM TPU and the final chapter of the Soap Opera.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg84865.html#msg84865
Have you built it? Of course not. LOL ;D It doesn't jive with everyones preconceptions. I think the majority are more interested in the "drama" then really having a working device.
He already told you EXACTLY how it worked, and why! But 99% of you will say, "nope, can't be!" Ha! The Feds have nothing to worry about. Even given a schematic and a how to manual, most would not follow and still do it "their way"! It is the nature of ego and pride. ::)
Hearing and listening are not the same thing. I feel compelled to give my input because with too many threads, history seems to be repeating itself. And we do not learn from history, thus continue to make the same mistakes.
I have said ALL of that, to encourage, and challenge everyone to listen to the words of the above aforementioned public post and use that as a framework for experimentation. You might just be surprised! ;)
Or everyone can continue the drama and that's fine too. But it will not help the current energy situation. Of course all of this is just my 10 cents, and you are free to totally disregard everything I have said. :) ;) :D
Cheers,
Bruce
The Matrix
written by Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski
Morpheus: I imagine that right now you're feeling a bit like Alice. Tumbling down the rabbit hole?
Neo: You could say that.
Morpheus: I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he's expecting to wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?
Neo: No.
Morpheus: Why not?
Neo: 'Cause I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life.
Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. Like a splinter in your mind -- driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Neo: The Matrix?
Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?
(Neo nods his head.)
Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when go to church or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. (long pause, sighs) Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
(In his left hand, Morpheus shows a blue pill.)
Morpheus: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. (a red pill is shown in his other hand) You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. (Long pause; Neo begins to reach for the red pill) Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.
(Neo takes the red pill and swallows it with a glass of water)
Hey guys,Well, there is no schematic. While "ether" is a grossly non-scientific term since nobody so far succeeded at defining ether dynamics (so, spherics pictures of magnetic field/ether interaction is rather fragmentary). So, that post is likely to be just a part of this "opera". Believe or not believe - there is no schematic.
This man gave EVERYONE the answer to the SM TPU and the final chapter of the Soap Opera.
Hey guys,
This man gave EVERYONE the answer to the SM TPU and the final chapter of the Soap Opera.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg84865.html#msg84865
Have you built it? Of course not. LOL ;D It doesn't jive with everyones preconceptions. I think the majority are more interested in the "drama" then really having a working device.
He already told you EXACTLY how it worked, and why! But 99% of you will say, "nope, can't be!" Ha! The Feds have nothing to worry about. Even given a schematic and a how to manual, most would not follow and still do it "their way"! It is the nature of ego and pride. ::)
Hearing and listening are not the same thing. I feel compelled to give my input because with too many threads, history seems to be repeating itself. And we do not learn from history, thus continue to make the same mistakes.
I have said ALL of that, to encourage, and challenge everyone to listen to the words of the above aforementioned public post and use that as a framework for experimentation. You might just be surprised! ;)
Or everyone can continue the drama and that's fine too. But it will not help the current energy situation. Of course all of this is just my 10 cents, and you are free to totally disregard everything I have said. :) ;) :D
Cheers,
Bruce
Well, there is no schematic. While "ether" is a grossly non-scientific term since nobody so far succeeded at defining ether dynamics (so, spherics pictures of magnetic field/ether interaction is rather fragmentary). So, that post is likely to be just a part of this "opera". Believe or not believe - there is no schematic.
borg13
you're in a bit of a fantasy world here. people won't even post pics and schematics of their experiments, never mind the same for a working tpu, because there isn't one.
no one has anything yet, and most aren't even qualified to determine whether they have anything or not. so don't get too excited about these announcements--they're vapour-ware until something such as measurement data or videos with scope shots are posted that clearly show proof. there's a big difference between cynicism and being objective.
claims without substance and empty teases are a dime a dozen. question what is posted, think for yourself.
spherics has substance and is a good path to pursue, go for it. ;)
There are other pictures of the MTPU that show the center item. Hope this information helps.If one to insist it is a mic, that "device" in the center suggests it is a simple planar resonator with a mic in the center. It reacts on the vibration of the "main" body (external toroid) and passes vibration to the microphone. This is pretty logical as attaching microphone directly to the toroid may run it into unuseful acoustical overload (if vibration is considerable).
right on time grumpy, just like clock work. ;) this routine of yours is getting old, give it a rest
at times the truth draws out those that can only answer with more rhetoric, or silences those who suddenly realize the err of their ways
open your eyes dude :o i said check out spherics
as for negative "smack", well that's your interpretation. others may see it as a reality check
@Wattsup
You say in your 5-26-08 post (#957) that the device in the bottom center of the FTPU is probably a microphone. I would submit that is it not a microphone, at least in a conventional sense. The item in the FTPU looks exactly (to me) the same as the item in the center of the MTPU (the one that was cut up) as shown in the attached picture. I suggest that if one can identify the item in the attached picture, then they have the identity of the one in the FTPU. There are other pictures of the MTPU that show the center item. Hope this information helps.
There are other pictures of the MTPU that show the center item. Hope this information helps.
That picture IS a speaker magnet complete with centre pole. Grab a few old speakers and pry then apart.The only problem is I do not see a magnet there - it looks more like speaker driver, without magnet. But then again - speaker drivers can be used as microphones without the need of adding anything extra.
those two lumps are rivets that would attach to the speaker frame.
More to come.......
One question would be under which conditions would someone look to use such a reverse winding toroid in standard EE practice?
Basically, if we take two conventional coils, and connect them in series, but orient them such that the poles of the two coils are in opposition, what is often called 'bucking fields', we will find that the
total inductance is greater than that of a single coil. The total energy stored in the fields of the two coils is not significantly effected by their orientation, and the system is highly inductive.
the total inductance is LESS not greater.
nice find BEP, the coil wire sure looks like it reverses direction, very interesting.
EM
Am I the only one that sees the toroidal chokes as just chokes?
@BEP
From what you have posted, are you thinking that the toroid has a horizontal coil that is encapsulated in some type of epoxy. This may make sense because when yo look at the closeup photos at the top of this page, the winds do seem to be embedding themselves slightly into the core material, something that would be impossible if this was a ferrite or iron powder core. If the toroid core was a winding in epoxy and not on a spool as my last build this would also simply how you can get both wire leads out of the core.
I am beginning to feel that 80% of the overunity aspect of the TPU is right in the central toroid and that the rings that changes from one unit to the other may somewhat useful but also may be a major decoy.
I think Jason ended the torrent link.
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Just do the first three files because the last two have nothing on them and should actually be removed. It's easy do to then click on the last one that is a zip and presto, you have the video.
You may still want to read through the pages to see what has already been discovered. The more eyes the better.
@poynt99
I know it would be easy to just consider the toroid as a standard choke. But I can't accept the fact that in the FTPU, with practically nothing to the device, that there would be such a big toroid for output smoothing. Output smoothing for 60 vdc (unknown amps but expect maximum 1 amp) is the least of ones problems and could be done with a choke the size of a penny or a quarter. Why use such a big choke. It just does not fit. And if it does not fit, you must acquit. Oops. Sorry that's another forum. lol
I believe I've mentioned this before, but could someone comment, just to shut me up.
I Know every is ignoring the wires that lead through the center of the small torrid. Why?
The wire that goes through the center is potted in the Big TPU. That is only required if
yopu don't want them to move. Those wires, Most Likely, are not connected to the torrid
windings, and seeing the patent just posted, it seems that the current transformer action
of such a setup would be multiplied. That type of setup has been used in other devices,
but not in this type of application, that I know of. (But that means nothing, really..)
As a thought, this could be used to induce one heck of an impulse. Seeing that there
are two wires on each side, the symmetry is too "Right in front of me" to be ignored.
It certainly wasn't done for "Artwork".
Just a thought.
Art.
@aleks - While interesting, the MRA is not an OU device.Well, you are referring to a single report and telling it's not an OU device. Not enough for a conclusion as its inventors say otherwise. It's like 50/50 situation. Why are you so easily favoring 'no OU' claim? Not to note that calorimeter measurements are lacking in both cases while they are the most important measurements in judging OU performance. Beside that my point is not about this exact piezo MRA. My point is that SM TPU may be working on similar concepts except that it uses magnetostrictive material as a resonator.
3. One side of the core is pulsed, producing a mirror image inverted pulse on the other winding. These identical opposite phased pulses drive "some other parts of the device".I had an idea connected to "inverted" signal and the acoustic stimulation I'm was posting about. The quickest way to "counter" the present standing wave is to change polarity of acoustic stimulation (instead of simply stopping it). Just an idea.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Videos:Jack_Durban:Steven_Marks_TPU (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Videos:Jack_Durban:Steven_Marks_TPU)
Could it be that the little toroids are to isolate and limit the feedback? Naw! Only been around since the 1920's.
@poynt99
I don't know why you cannot see it but it is very flagrantly visible in the two first photos I posted above. Where the arrow points to the two wires, it is so obvious. There is not 4 wires ther, only two. You can tell simply by the thickness (or should I say thinness). Also if you follow the front white and black wires, you see they come together and only one wire then goes into the bundle. You can even follow it in the bundle as it is folded under the tape to take up the wire slack then is goes to the back end.
6 About the Flame like Discharge. Yes it does cause RF burns. I was going to talk about that, but I decided to wait and see how long it would take one of you to realize this on your own. Bravo!
By the way, the fire discharge everyone sees in the video is after the output of the device is switched through a large high value resister! I hope that will wake up a few of you to the danger potentials.
How much power do you think one would need to create such a magnetorestrictive action (MRA). Is the power level small enough to fit inside a TPU? If the TPU does not use batteries, then any theory would have to start with 0 volts and work its way up. If it does use batteries, then the theory would have to start at that voltage level and work its way up. If the theory requires power that goes above and beyond any feasible power availability in a TPU, then the theory should be dropped or shown to comply in a new way to the TPU.No need for much initial energy, really, and it may start with a 9 volt battery since metal "rings" for a very long time, accumulating energy if in resonance. Acoustic waves in fact carry tiny amount of energy. The power of acoustics is in resonant modes, because they create static pressure non-equilibriums within matter, not attainable otherwise. (please do not call it "magnetorestrictive" action - it is magnetoSTRICTIVE).
I know we all consider the gyroscopic effect of the TPUs and this can be thought of as an MRA, but it could also simply be the action of continuously pulsing a left then right coil. You may physically feel the pusling action but it does not mean it is an intentional MRA, but a byproduct of the overall effects.
@kames and poynt99
This would eventually have to be tested both ways otherwise we'll be going back and forth forever. Just know that on the right toroid there is another wire going into the toroid side bundle making five wires in the bundle. See my third image above.
@kames
.....This is an odd wire ......
Hi Aleks
I have pondered the Hendershot device for many years. With the idea that form follows function and vice versa, my current conclusion (subject to change) is that the large capacitors in the center of the coils act like high frequency electrostatic (ultrasonic) transducers (electrostatic tweeters). These couple to the basketweave coils which are horizontally transverse serpentine windings. The inventor poured beeswax between the tight fitting capacitors and the coils to improve mechanical coupling efficiency. Rotating acoustic waves and standing waves would propel electrons out of the coils. It is easy to visualize the ratcheting effect electrons will have as they spill over hill and vale of the serpentine windings being pushed and vibrated by the rotating acoustic waves.
Many who have built these devices neglected pouring the beeswax into the spaces between the coil and capacitor and have achieved negative results.
Any thoughts on this?......V
P.S. if this doesn't make any sense, I'll go back to sleep... LOL
look up patent # 2446939, frequency doubling transformer, the core itself is saturated by driving a current through it. Use iron wire instead, it works wonders :)
At the time, SM thought it must be from the Earth's magnetic field. He was not aware of other fields.
If you look at the correct image of the earth's magnetic field, see attached image, you see that the field lines come down all over - sort of perpendicular to the earth's surface. Then look at the second image, also from the work of Davis and Rawls, in which we see that the fields of a magnet rotate in opposite directions.
Now, ask yourselves "what" was rotating with the earth's magnetic field because it sure as hell was not a magnetic field.
"The physics community will not accept this because it conflicts with their standard model, but our experiments show otherwise. By pinestone "Nice find, thanks! However, as it seems "in average" this helical structure behaves as theorized: there is no magnetic flux in the Bloch wall. Such helical structure will probably make formulas more complicated. But hopefully it will increase general understanding of the matter - at least among specialists.
http://www.nanomagnetics.us
But we know the classic facts are TRUE! After all they are printed in thousands of books and taught that way.
Not to mention over a hundred years of doing it that way - AND the experimental proof! (so I say while thumping my latest comic book and eating a Twinkie).
All you need is a TV with a Trinitron style CRT. Hold a bar magnet up to it and it will distort the screen image exactly the way shown on the drawings offered by Grumpy and the graphic supplied by Wings.
Those of you eating a Twinkie for brain food - if it doesn't have a trinitron style CRT you WILL see distortions exactly like your books.
What is the difference? Eat some more Twinkies... you'll get it eventually ;D
Yes, the textbook facts are true. But the facts you are referring to describe the maximum potential of the magnetic field.
My statement is also true. The Bloch wall is a minimum potential of the field, and that is what my lenses reveal. Photons from the light source follow the lowest potential of the magnetic field when they interact within my lens.
I've also experimented with the Sony crt's.
The patterns match. Here's an image from my lens and one from a Trinitron crt that I merged in Photoshop:
Don't you know that Twinkies aren't good for you ! Eat more veggies !!!!
;D I haven't had a Twinkie in about 30 years.
The first part of that post was a sick attempt at playing the naysayer.
I fully expected your lense to show what I described on the Trinitron.
My reasoning is from the graphics you have supplied I really don't think your lens shows the magnetic field. Rather, it shows the direction and dispersion of the charge flux due to the magnetic field.
Notice how your lens shows a reversal of color from top to bottom.
If a charged particle approaches the northern half of a magnet it will go around that magnet in one direction. If it approaches the southern half of the magnet it will go around the other direction.
The Trinitrons don't show the magnetic field. They show the dielectric field because they have no shadow mask.
Dissimilar CRTs show the magnetic field because there is a shadow mask to magnetize.
The division shown between the two poles (with your lense) is surely the Bloch wall, I agree.
Imagine if you could look at the Earth with your lense. Folks would likely find your pics a reason to understand the difference of predominant weather and ocean current direction.
This perception I have makes me think there is nothing anomolous about your results but I think your lense is a fantastic tool anyway. It is certainly a mass improvement over Kirlian photography.
If applying an electric charge to the area viewed by your lense is not being done then you are seeing the moving charges that surround us.
Yes folks, I am crazy. No need for flame wars. I submitted to being insane several decades ago :)
Just as a small note: The original paper on the proof that OU exists
from the voltage experiment, which I assume all truly interested parties
have already read, stated very clearly that the effect could be shown
in two ways. With a Cap, charged to High Voltage, as was done and
verified, or with an inductor, which was only briefly mentioned. I am
starting to wonder if all this is not "Connected" in some way......
GK,
I pointed to the two-winding coil where his thumb is and across from it three years ago. I was laughed off.
Also note:
1. There are two sets of coils. The one you point to shows a primary as the finer outer winding with the secondary under it. The secondary is identical to the most visible coil on the left except it is reverse wound compared to that most visible coil. That quadrant is only one half of a center tapped set. The other half is under his hand. Think transformer primary and 500-0-500 secondary.
2. The second set (most visible, is one half of this second set) is counter wound from the other set. Think heater winding - 2.5-0-2.5
3. The supposed magnets inside to the right of his hand are actually two UHF triodes and one dual rectifier.
4. At the base of the left magnet socket is a silicon rectifier, most likely a Zener wired as grid bias.
5. To the right of the load connection is the opposing Zener.
6. The tube dual rectifier is wired as a full-wave rectifier center-tapped off the secondary of the lower right and upper left coil sets.
7. The circuit board is a governor type control, not a driver.
All my take on it from three years ago. I guess folks are more receptive now to such crazy perceptions?
BTW:
What is it with the Bloch wall thingy? The wall isn't even part of the magnetic field. It is only the place where moving charges don't know which way to turn because magnetic polarity is null. With the right acceleration, they'll shoot out the equator away from the center.
If you are shifting the wall you can change DC to AC. Other than that,
I'm not sure what is interesting.
Cheers,
BEP
Where is the Bloch wall for a coil wound on toroid ?Provided you are injecting sine fitting within the winding length, the wall for a single poloidal winding travels around the circumference in three places. One at the the zero current location, between peak and valley, another at positive peak and another at negative peak. I imagine the latter two cancel each other.
(http://freeenergygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/5th_gen_tpu_july17_08.png)
This TPU is based on the 6″ model demonstrated by Steven Mark in one of his videos. The control circuit drives three lines up to 15v but currently between 7 and 12v. The control coil outputs are fed
back into the controller using a simple implementation of a Tesla switch to facilitate a rotating field.A positive observation so far is that when I disconnect the input power to the cycling power (not the control circuitry) the oscillations drop about half as fast as when the control coil outputs are not connected to anything. Currently a devastating problem is with the diodes placed throughout the cycle each one incurring a .7v drop at up to 20Mhz this adds up to a lot of waste.This design attempts to provide a method of rotating a charge field around the TPU so that the input power is conserved and not used directly in the output. This should allow for a self running opertaion.
(http://freeenergygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/5th_gen_tpu_input_scope.png)
The image of the scope shows the input from one of the three control coils. The input is 7.5v square wave but notice that the scope shows about 20v peak to peak. I think this is the kick Steven Mark talked about. When only a single control coil is connected the input will show the 7v square wave and the output about 14v sign wave. Because all three control coils are connected the input is receiving a signal from the other coils.
Any comments are welcome...
http://freeenergygroup.com/?page_id=109
This website and the pictures are currently not reachable.
Did anybody copy the pics and can please post them ?
Many thanks.
Best regards, Stefan.
I pointed to the two-winding coil where his thumb is and across from it three years ago. I was laughed off.
Also note:
1. There are two sets of coils. The one you point to shows a primary as the finer outer winding with the secondary under it. The secondary is identical to the most visible coil on the left except it is reverse wound compared to that most visible coil. That quadrant is only one half of a center tapped set. The other half is under his hand. Think transformer primary and 500-0-500 secondary.
...
BEP
G'day BEP - long time since I was here.
There is more, but not here... think about the progression from the two layers spotted in this early model to what may be in the final configuration ;)
cheers
Mark.
I think the experiment what SM referred to is very easy to do. He mentioned that kick is which will help to destroy the filament of the electron tube, when it's turned on, and it is commonly know phenomena, which maybe misunderstood.
@IceStorm,
Bravo. Don't forget the movement of that filament, while near zero Ohms, in the Earth's magnetic field.
The high inrush current makes-up for the weak magnetic field. There can be a bit of torsion in that filament. ;D
The difficulty may be stopping that current at the same time the voltage peak is reached. Since current lags voltage, in an inductive circuit, you have a little more time to stop current flow but not much.
@IceStorm,good stuff
Bravo. Don't forget the movement of that filament, while near zero Ohms, in the Earth's magnetic field.
The high inrush current makes-up for the weak magnetic field. There can be a bit of torsion in that filament. ;D
The difficulty may be stopping that current at the same time the voltage peak is reached. Since current lags voltage, in an inductive circuit, you have a little more time to stop current flow but not much.
Earth Magnetic field(0.3Gauss-0.6Gauss) or Thermal expansion/deformation ;)
Best Regards,
IceStorm
Jack,
BTW, the car I drove you in to the "mansion" was either a 1977 Silver Wraith Rolls Royce (black and brown) or a black 1994/1995 Cadillac STS. Tell Kanzenbach I say hello.
~ MM
For those who would like to add English subtitles to the DVD
(1.85 GB in 2 Zip files). Contains the untouched first 30 minutes with English subtitles muxed in (DVD video folder with NTSC 720×480 at 29.97 Hz as interlaced frame picture).Re-upload of above Zip files (https://mega.nz/#F!yPQT1Q6Q!h8Np27UcqPAoG6Hz1wGNcQ).
That was a missing puzzle! Thank you. Where is the Bloch wall for a coil wound on toroid ? Is it on the plane cutting toroid in the center to two smaller toroids ? I really have to know. In other words where is radiant energy radiated away from tpu toroid.
"The physics community will not accept this because it conflicts with their standard model, but our experiments show otherwise. By pinestone "
http://www.nanomagnetics.us
http://www.nanomagnetics.us/magnetic%20anomaly.pdf
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1182.msg105601.html#msg105601
http://www.scivee.tv/node/5988