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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #570 on: April 26, 2008, 12:47:02 PM »
Hey guys

@wattsup
nice coils!

@eldarion
great comments, your brain is like quad core heheh

okay, so here is my latest pulse control circuitry.  the oscillation frequencies are usb controlled from the computer  (1khz - 67Mhz).  This project, called Gemini, can pulse 2 square waves oscillators up to 500VDC/8amps with <10ns wavefront. 

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6265/p1000687spk3.jpg)



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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #571 on: April 26, 2008, 02:32:56 PM »
@eldarion

Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.

I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #572 on: April 26, 2008, 03:04:33 PM »
 
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    You can make it any shape you want.  The people who had the neutrino weapons that killed people and left buildings standing made them like a solenoid (total assholes).
   

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #573 on: April 26, 2008, 06:27:32 PM »
I want to post another idea to the review board.
Maybe somebody else came up with the idea already, I do not know that.

Yesterday I was reading some old topic on this forum and I came across the invention of the Hongarian guy. He states that if he puts 2 transmitters together with the same phase, the result is a wave with an amplutide 2 times as big. And because the energy of the wave is the square of the amplitude, 1 + 1 = 4.
This appears to be overunity. The math seems to prove it.


So I did some research and came across this site www.aa5tb.com/loop.html
where I found this picture:

(http://www.aa5tb.com/loop05.gif)
 

It looks kinda familiar to me..

These kinds of loop antenna?s can be used for frequencies from 3,5 upto 450 MHz. The writer also states that some get very hot.

Somewhere in the PDF ,  SM says there have to be 3 collectors, stacked on top of each other.

What if, the lower 2 collectors are transmitter antenna, working together to create a wave in phase, which is collected by the third, the receiver?

What if SM found a way to create a rotating magnetic field around these antenna, to focus the waves to have maximum energy effect in the receiver antenna.
In the origional idea, the transmitters had to be placed in a elliptical chamber, to reflect back to the focal point. Maybe a rotating magfield does the same? I have really no idea what the field looks like when its spinning and what is does to waves. Some say it?s a ball. As a tv repair man , SM would have been very familiar with understanding manipulating beams/waves with magnetic fields. Tv?s do the same thing.

Some things I considered:
- Original technology from Europe
- Mathematical proven overunity
- Technology in the field of SM, VHF, magfields, antenna,  etc.
- Circumference is important for tuning.
- Heat problem
- No unexplainable energie source.
- Scalable.
- Easy to start.
- Analogy to radio?


I could be totally wrong but I want to share it anyways.



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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #574 on: April 26, 2008, 06:38:06 PM »
not to mention if you replace the inner loop with a coil connected to two electrodes you have an "Apparatus for receiving and measuring presence of neutrino particles" patent DE19614575

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #575 on: April 26, 2008, 08:24:21 PM »
@eldarion

I will look closer to the section you mentioned. The tapes were on the output wires but I will look again.

OTPU

On the OTPU, I can give you one place to start and that is the coils under the two magnets. The "receptors" for the magnets were not so tight to push the magnets in place so they are not holding in their position by any clipping type holder or action. Also at the base of the receptors there is no metal attraction since the magnets were placed very calmly into position and they did not jump towards the receptor base. What does this say. The coils under the magnets never change polarities otherwise the magnets would pop out of their receptors. So the coils under the magnets are not reversing polarity or generating enough magnetism to push the magnets out of their receptors.

By consequence, the action of the 4 collectors or primaries (either bifilar or not, we'll call them collectors for now) are not generating enough magnetism in the coils at a reverse polarity to push the magnet out of the receptors. This cancels many operational theories, so if you manage your theory around this one main point, it should save alot of time (and time is money). lol (Heard that before.)

Or, on the other hand, if the two coils are pulsed in a way to energize the collectors, they are not pulsing in alternating polarities. So either both are pulsing the same way, or one is pusling in the opposite manner and SM had to know exactly what side of the magnet goes to which receptor.

To continue on let me just get some item names set so we know what we are talking about. These are taken from the OPTU pdf I had posting in 2007.

Output Side - Side were the output wires exit the unit. 6 o'clock position
Coil #1 - Coil between plates on the right of the output side. 3 o'clock position
Coil #2 - Coil between plates on the left of the output side. 9 o'clock position
Coil #3 - Coil between plates opposite the output side. 12 o'clock position
Leg #1 - This is the circuit board.
Leg #2 - Below Coil #2
Leg #3 - Below Coil #3
Leg #4 - Below Coil #1
Collector #1 - Wrapped on lower plate between output side and Coil #2
Collector #2 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #2 and Coil #3
Collector #3 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #3 and Coil #1
Collector #4 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #1 and output side

OK now here's the fun part. Now look at the photo below of the OTPU taken from underneath. What do you see? Or better still, what do you not see? I know it's hard to see something so flagrantly out in the open but could not be noticed with the old video. Look where SM is holding the tpu with his fingers flat together. He is holding it right at the coil #1 position and the flat finger hold tells me there is no leg #4 under the coil #1. This is major because it just reduced the probabilities. lol

We also know that the leg #2 has a slide on cover designed obviously for easy access to that area of the TPU, otherwise he would have taped it in place like he did to leg#3. This was not possible to consider becasue leg #2 could have been identical to leg #4 in terms of usage, but we could not see the leg #4 well enough. Also we know there is a switch on coil #2. The question remains - what is coil #3 really like.

FTPU and LTPU

This is something very interesting to think about. I had previously proposed that the FTPU was maybe not made by SM but taken from someone else. If this was true, then this presents one major problem to explain and that is the fact that he is using the same toroid in his first unit as he is using two in his last unit the LTPU. If the FTPU came from someone else or from another country, what are the chances that he could have found the exact same toroids, mounted on the same mounting brackets to make the LTPU? Puzzling.

Now if we can determine where the hell this toroid came from, either from an existing piece of scavenged equiqment or from a heathkit parts kit, from a radio transmitter, etc., etc., if some of the guys here can concentrate some time on this one question and clearly identify the source, then we can get a better understanding of the origin of the Toroid initial design and even try to get our hands on this exact toroid. This would help tremendously in this replication effort.

@Spider

Good post. You will have to see where in the physical portions of the TPU such and idea could fit and what is required to drive this idea and if this will also physically fit.

@Feynman

Really nice circuit. 500VDC/8amps. That's enought to fry a few coils. You say it has a USB connection so you can regulate the pulse with your computer. Now that is really nice. That will save lots of time pulsing in many ways withot having to re-do your circuit each time you try new parameters.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #576 on: April 26, 2008, 10:01:11 PM »
@wattsup,

I would only expect to see three legs. The reason is only two signals are require for rotation. Each polarized 90 degrees from each other.
Since I expect two rotations, each a different frequency and going opposite directions only three signals are required. Since best rotation is obtained with identical signals-signals of differing frequency must be harmonically related to work. I don't mean harmonics in the common radio sense. We are dealing with rotation so the harmonic will be slightly less than a multiple of the base frequency.

The 4th point would be where energy is extracted - the focal point so to speak.

As far as resolving the leg boot issue: At this point I would expect the leg to consist of: from top to bottom - magnet polarized N over S, vertiacl coil winding (common toroidal not solenoid like), magnet polarized N over S.

That coil would not generate a reverse magnetic field. It would join with the field it is already inside. I would think those magnets would be more difficult to remove when the TPU was under heavy load.
The stronger the load the stronger the field and better the containment of the Lenz rotation of the building electron (negative charge) cloud.
As far as why they were covered? Same as I would do.... so people couldn't tell how the thing worked.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #577 on: April 27, 2008, 12:01:25 AM »
@eldarion

Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.

I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.

   @bep

   I think you're starting to see why SM's design is a piece of shit.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2008, 12:26:23 AM by sparks »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #578 on: April 27, 2008, 12:29:13 AM »
This thread is starting to get interesting again! (goes in "phases" I guess :D ) Who ever said these new videos aren't useful? I think they offer many insights, and are at least a good way of trying to confirm whether a particular theory fits what we see in the real devices (assuming they are indeed real, which I personally think they are.) So, @Jack - please realize that the video(s) you've supplied ARE very useful here, and don't let a few negative comments sway you from your good work!

Just wanted to go back to a point about FTPU that I feel is of importance - The main thing I see in the video is that there are windings in the center of the device. I know it was mentioned that the white vertical lines might be wires, but I'm convinced they are something else.... In a section of the video when SM is flipping the FTPU back over, you can see that the white lines on the hub don't stay in the same position relative to the top and bottom parts of the spool itself. In other words, these lines are simply light reflections on the central windings. In VirtualDub, you can step between say frames 35986 and 36004, and see that as the whole FTPU is rotated slightly, the central white line still points towards the camera. The left-hand white line also seems to "disappear" at frame 36004 (when the light isn't at the correct angle to the camera.) There are a number of places in the video where you see a similar thing happen.

I think that the irregularity of the central hub part itself suggests that there is one big coil around the hub with fine windings (ie. the left and right sides of "coil" are not straight like an empty spool hub would be). Also, the colour of the "windings" does not match the colour of the central hub in the photo that slapper posted (which in most respects does look exactly like the spool SM used for the FTPU). The central coil also looks quite a bit wider than the central hub (assuming that the empty central hub is a similar size to the raised / moulded part on the top?)

Is this coil the main collector? This would match somewhat with spherics design where the "fields" from the outer control coils pass "through" the central collector coil. Attached is a zoomed view of the central part of the FTPU - although it's hard to confirm in the video, it does have a winding-like texture and colour to it? If the FTPU really did operate in a similar way to spherics design, is it possible that when one control coil quadrant is active, the opposite control coil on the opposite side of the spool would also activate (creating a diagonal "field" through the central coil?)

I too have been scouring the Web trying to find an inductor similar to the one on the FTPU / LTPU. The fact that the pair of wires from each side of the inductor are different sizes (/materials?) suggest a saturable inductor as opposed to a line filter / choke. They don't even look quite like loudspeaker crossover coils? If anyone has any idea what these inductors really are, please let us know!

OzOnE

P.S. Also attached is a slightly enhanced view of the underside of the OTPU that wattsup posted earlier. (when I say "slightly enhanced", I mean "no idea what I'm doing - I've probably made it worse" ;) )

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« Reply #579 on: April 27, 2008, 01:02:00 AM »
@OzOne

I can't say exactly how the spool is constructed but keep in-mind these spools also had a flavor where the outside ends were plastic and the inner drum was made of rolled, thin metal. On  those you could usually see the metal tabs showing as bent over the plastic. I'm sure there were also some that didn't show.
From what I've seen so far I'll have to agree with Wattsup's interpretation with the vertical wires...mainly because it fits how I think that one works. Who knows what next week will bring  ;)


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« Reply #581 on: April 27, 2008, 01:20:31 AM »
Science

  
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« Reply #582 on: April 27, 2008, 01:54:58 AM »
@Sparks,
Neutrino bomb - I think you mean a neutron bomb, neutrinos pass through everything and I think they are harmless at least at low levels.

AM radios, thats old hat, I built one when I was about 11 - big deal.
We have to explore the videos as there are several people that can confirm that they worked and therefore it gives us a set of parameters to work within for the most basic model.

@All
Going back to Spherics idea of the tetrahedron, I think it needs to be inverted so the vortex cone is facing into the upper atmosphere.
As I understand it, it also implies that top coil is pinching the vortex and forcing the twisting field through and around the collector coil.

Regards
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« Reply #583 on: April 27, 2008, 02:04:15 AM »
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         When you built your am radio did you ever understand where the power came from that came in on the antennae that you resonate..  I didn't say anything about a neutrino bomb.  What do you think the magnetic field inside the tpu is spinning up?  Do you have a clue as to what magnetic flux is? 

     

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« Reply #584 on: April 27, 2008, 02:58:16 AM »
@sparks,

I appreciate your nudge to what you may think is right. Built my first radio in early grade school. Wiped out all radio/TV signals within miles at 12. I even had the enjoyment of destroying electronic ignition systems on running cars within a couple of blocks back in the 80's.
No, fields don't rotate and magnetic flux won't either.
I think you'll find the so-called tetrahedral method will actually build a spherical field (no pun intended).
I'm not after how to make power - I'm after how to control it because loading things like this just makes it stronger.

 

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