@eldarion

Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.

I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.

I want to post another idea to the review board.
Maybe somebody else came up with the idea already, I do not know that.

Yesterday I was reading some old topic on this forum and I came across the invention of the Hongarian guy. He states that if he puts 2 transmitters together with the same phase, the result is a wave with an amplutide 2 times as big. And because the energy of the wave is the square of the amplitude, 1 + 1 = 4.
This appears to be overunity. The math seems to prove it.


So I did some research and came across this site www.aa5tb.com/loop.html
where I found this picture:

(http://www.aa5tb.com/loop05.gif)
 

It looks kinda familiar to me..

These kinds of loop antenna?s can be used for frequencies from 3,5 upto 450 MHz. The writer also states that some get very hot.

Somewhere in the PDF ,  SM says there have to be 3 collectors, stacked on top of each other.

What if, the lower 2 collectors are transmitter antenna, working together to create a wave in phase, which is collected by the third, the receiver?

What if SM found a way to create a rotating magnetic field around these antenna, to focus the waves to have maximum energy effect in the receiver antenna.
In the origional idea, the transmitters had to be placed in a elliptical chamber, to reflect back to the focal point. Maybe a rotating magfield does the same? I have really no idea what the field looks like when its spinning and what is does to waves. Some say it?s a ball. As a tv repair man , SM would have been very familiar with understanding manipulating beams/waves with magnetic fields. Tv?s do the same thing.

Some things I considered:
- Original technology from Europe
- Mathematical proven overunity
- Technology in the field of SM, VHF, magfields, antenna,  etc.
- Circumference is important for tuning.
- Heat problem
- No unexplainable energie source.
- Scalable.
- Easy to start.
- Analogy to radio?


I could be totally wrong but I want to share it anyways.



Greetings Rene

@eldarion

I will look closer to the section you mentioned. The tapes were on the output wires but I will look again.

OTPU

On the OTPU, I can give you one place to start and that is the coils under the two magnets. The "receptors" for the magnets were not so tight to push the magnets in place so they are not holding in their position by any clipping type holder or action. Also at the base of the receptors there is no metal attraction since the magnets were placed very calmly into position and they did not jump towards the receptor base. What does this say. The coils under the magnets never change polarities otherwise the magnets would pop out of their receptors. So the coils under the magnets are not reversing polarity or generating enough magnetism to push the magnets out of their receptors.

By consequence, the action of the 4 collectors or primaries (either bifilar or not, we'll call them collectors for now) are not generating enough magnetism in the coils at a reverse polarity to push the magnet out of the receptors. This cancels many operational theories, so if you manage your theory around this one main point, it should save alot of time (and time is money). lol (Heard that before.)

Or, on the other hand, if the two coils are pulsed in a way to energize the collectors, they are not pulsing in alternating polarities. So either both are pulsing the same way, or one is pusling in the opposite manner and SM had to know exactly what side of the magnet goes to which receptor.

To continue on let me just get some item names set so we know what we are talking about. These are taken from the OPTU pdf I had posting in 2007.

Output Side - Side were the output wires exit the unit. 6 o'clock position
Coil #1 - Coil between plates on the right of the output side. 3 o'clock position
Coil #2 - Coil between plates on the left of the output side. 9 o'clock position
Coil #3 - Coil between plates opposite the output side. 12 o'clock position
Leg #1 - This is the circuit board.
Leg #2 - Below Coil #2
Leg #3 - Below Coil #3
Leg #4 - Below Coil #1
Collector #1 - Wrapped on lower plate between output side and Coil #2
Collector #2 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #2 and Coil #3
Collector #3 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #3 and Coil #1
Collector #4 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #1 and output side

OK now here's the fun part. Now look at the photo below of the OTPU taken from underneath. What do you see? Or better still, what do you not see? I know it's hard to see something so flagrantly out in the open but could not be noticed with the old video. Look where SM is holding the tpu with his fingers flat together. He is holding it right at the coil #1 position and the flat finger hold tells me there is no leg #4 under the coil #1. This is major because it just reduced the probabilities. lol

We also know that the leg #2 has a slide on cover designed obviously for easy access to that area of the TPU, otherwise he would have taped it in place like he did to leg#3. This was not possible to consider becasue leg #2 could have been identical to leg #4 in terms of usage, but we could not see the leg #4 well enough. Also we know there is a switch on coil #2. The question remains - what is coil #3 really like.

FTPU and LTPU

This is something very interesting to think about. I had previously proposed that the FTPU was maybe not made by SM but taken from someone else. If this was true, then this presents one major problem to explain and that is the fact that he is using the same toroid in his first unit as he is using two in his last unit the LTPU. If the FTPU came from someone else or from another country, what are the chances that he could have found the exact same toroids, mounted on the same mounting brackets to make the LTPU? Puzzling.

Now if we can determine where the hell this toroid came from, either from an existing piece of scavenged equiqment or from a heathkit parts kit, from a radio transmitter, etc., etc., if some of the guys here can concentrate some time on this one question and clearly identify the source, then we can get a better understanding of the origin of the Toroid initial design and even try to get our hands on this exact toroid. This would help tremendously in this replication effort.

@Spider

Good post. You will have to see where in the physical portions of the TPU such and idea could fit and what is required to drive this idea and if this will also physically fit.

@Feynman

Really nice circuit. 500VDC/8amps. That's enought to fry a few coils. You say it has a USB connection so you can regulate the pulse with your computer. Now that is really nice. That will save lots of time pulsing in many ways withot having to re-do your circuit each time you try new parameters.

@eldarion

Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.

I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.

   @bep

   I think you're starting to see why SM's design is a piece of shit.

@OzOne

I can't say exactly how the spool is constructed but keep in-mind these spools also had a flavor where the outside ends were plastic and the inner drum was made of rolled, thin metal. On  those you could usually see the metal tabs showing as bent over the plastic. I'm sure there were also some that didn't show.
From what I've seen so far I'll have to agree with Wattsup's interpretation with the vertical wires...mainly because it fits how I think that one works. Who knows what next week will bring 

Science

  

    @meggarman

         When you built your am radio did you ever understand where the power came from that came in on the antennae that you resonate..  I didn't say anything about a neutrino bomb.  What do you think the magnetic field inside the tpu is spinning up?  Do you have a clue as to what magnetic flux is?