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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 391760 times)

Offline aleks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #495 on: April 24, 2008, 09:25:01 AM »
By the way the Chineese got 200 of these little aether spinners field testing right now.
Where you've got that from?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #496 on: April 24, 2008, 09:56:39 AM »
hi guys, i see two coils on back of tpu am i right :)
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #497 on: April 24, 2008, 10:54:11 AM »
@Jack, I have some more questions, im puzzled, maybe you can answer them, then maybe not, see how we go.

The videos that were being done on SM and his devices, were they supposed to go on the net?

If it was supposed to goto the investors, then someone had leaked the copies of copies out, which explains the poor quality, it might not have been the second guy or the 3rd one, but somone along the line slipped them out, just wanted your thoughts on this.....

Because you said you wanted to wait, to make sure before sending yours out....so I assume that they weren't supposed to get on the net, hence this would support what youve been saying, that he would spin us in so many directions, that we wouldn't know where to begin.....

Now we have good videos from you, because you had kept pretty much some originals.
So how would it have worked, the guy taking the vid, was he allowed to keep it without SM looking at it and saying, no you can't show that,
see i'm thinking he wasn't prob allowed to zoom into the units, not the first two anyway, because then SM would say, no...no thats no good, do it again, but delete what youve done, because I dont see too much zooming going on in the first two Open Tpu's

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #497 on: April 24, 2008, 10:54:11 AM »
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #498 on: April 24, 2008, 11:27:39 AM »
@Jack, the 2 small toroids in the larger unit, do you know what material that was?

Thanks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #499 on: April 24, 2008, 11:42:56 AM »
     I see Spherics design.  SM is alive and well he just got back from vacation.
The white thing in the middle is pulsed every time.  The 3 control windings on the bottom ring are pulsed sequentially.   The top disc is your collector winding  with a current transformer wrapped around it to get the magnetic circulating current changed into voltage.  The bailing wire feeds the magnetic field of the Earth into the lower layer windings field of influence.  Gotta pulse that one too.  Spherics left that out.    I'm talking about the first TPU the one he shouldn't have shown      anyone. Pride cometh before the fall. 

     And the Walls come tumbling down.   Steven you ever figure out why it got hot?  I know why and I know how to fix it.  What I don't know is what kinda deal you got going with the rest of mankind that needs this tech fast.  If someone has you under a rock tell them to fuck off!  By the way the Chineese got 200 of these little aether spinners field testing right now.

 

do tell us more!!. and yeah steve tell them to fuk off,shessh.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #500 on: April 24, 2008, 12:10:30 PM »
Scalability limits the use of and size of any active components and batteries.
I agree that scaling won't go well with MOSFETs or diodes - they all have some limit voltage they can cope with. However, device consisting of capacitor being charged by stepped up voltage and some kind of switch (mechanical or spark gap) are infinitely scalable. Then again, this is what Tesla used at his time.

But this is all not as relevant as knowing one thing: were control coil discharges (pulses) used in SM's TPU or not? Until somebody can answer this question for sure, there is no need to mention SM was not educated enough to use SS components again and again.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #501 on: April 24, 2008, 12:16:24 PM »
Bye bye to SM's "receptors" "kicks" "collector coils" and hopefully Bedini's "Radiant Energy"too!
No, not RE. Without "fifth force" there is no way an overunity can be created. If you believe SM TPU is about Earth's energy from 7.3 Hz or 5000 Hz, keep on dreaming you can shrink several miles-long antenna into 1 feet toroid.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2008, 03:36:26 PM by aleks »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #502 on: April 24, 2008, 01:26:21 PM »
     @Alecks

   The Earth is a big dynamo.  If you can't see it spend some time on Nasa's site.
It pumps neutrinos into the poles of the earth as fast as the Sun can get them here.  Ask someone from the fifth dimension to tell you where the Chineese have their aether spinners going.

  @ All

   There is no need for a highpowered high frequency osillator in SM'S devices.
Just a capacitor and an avalanche diode.  This one pulse output is then distributed to the torroid in the middle and the 3or4 windings on the bottom ring.
The reactance of the windings is adjusted just like in a single phase electric motor.  No need for 3 timed oscillators just one capacitor one avalanche diode.
The iron wire is also pulsed.  The copper will produce it's mag field first.  The steel right behind it.  This causes the magnetic field to spin and concentrate in the area of the  ouput winding or collector winding which is tapped for the output.

    The energy comes from the copper electrons magnetic resonance with the Earth's magnetic field.  Earth must be given time to restore the electrons to there natural state of resonance.  This way we get to kick some more neutrino ass next pulse.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #503 on: April 24, 2008, 01:54:39 PM »
The Earth is a big dynamo.  If you can't see it spend some time on Nasa's site.
It pumps neutrinos into the poles of the earth as fast as the Sun can get them here.
So, now your theory deals with neutrions? Unfortunately, normal matter and EM waves can't interact with neutrinos that much (due to so called weak forces). Our human bodies are believed to be "bombarded" by 10^14 neutrinos each second, and that does not make any impact.

Well, you still believe that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. However, as I've read even Tesla himself believed that energy can be created and destroyed. Note that creation of energy does not necessarily means creation of matter. If you can accelerate a material object by invesing only a fraction of energy this means you've created energy (overunity). Similarly, if in your process energy vanishes (cold electricity) it is destruction of energy (this can be also overunity compared to invested energy).

Ask someone from the fifth dimension to tell you where the Chineese have their aether spinners going.
That's subjective then, somebody's dreams.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #504 on: April 24, 2008, 02:23:14 PM »
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.

...it just doesn't add up, think about it.

trust me you all do not want me to think about it

it all does add up .....

the thing is   there more than 1 style however they all achive the same goal

i know why it gets hot too ....   cuz it is not designed at its best....


right joe ;D   i beleave the tesla pattends joe posted solve the problem if not in your mind then opt for the liquid cooled model soon to be released  im sure

or we could go quantum lol  ;)  i think rodin waits for the comeing inventions .....   but maybe not   

been tossing this superconductive wire idea round my head lately

ist

hey doesnt plastic become conductive at high freq hi voltage?  just thinking outlould...
« Last Edit: April 24, 2008, 03:29:34 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #505 on: April 24, 2008, 02:59:10 PM »
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.

...it just doesn't add up, think about it.

I can see your dilema, but to me the videos come first in trustworthiness and the letters second.   In that first video he says "very very cheaply put together …there’s no mass circuitry involved with any of this stuff .... it's just the knowledge of the coils and how they interact with each other...." 

However, that's not to say I don't trust what was said in the letters, but if your read them carefully, the concepts presented range all over the place, to get us to think.  Obviously he did not disclose diagrams and there's some conflicting information just in the letters themselves,  (what came first "kicks"  or "transformers interactions"  or "3 tubes with pure frequencies" )  etc.. etc..  Also which TPU was he refering to? 

Also, notice I refered only to the FTPU.  In the OTPU I thought I saw a 9 V battery, maybe maybe not.  the LTPU sure has that box in the center that makes you wonder.  But all can be diversions of sorts,  since if you have something that runs with gain, and you understand it properly, there is not need for electronics of anykind, all you would need is perhaps a coil and capacitor to create a resonant tank, and a choke or transformer to feedback the oscillations and block the DC, a very simple arragement.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #506 on: April 24, 2008, 03:10:36 PM »
Let me say this one more time,  there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.

When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.

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So Lindsay, this guy definitely has the secret. I do not know if he will be able to duplicate power generation, but he does have the secret.
Do you think he knows it?
The only part he doesn't have any idea about is that by starting the oscillation you cause the current to flow in the collector which causes the magnification of the process within the collector which will ultimately produce the greater voltage and power in usable amounts during operation.



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The old method of creating this "oscillation" was "impulse excitation".

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #507 on: April 24, 2008, 03:19:18 PM »
why does "starting the oscillation" have to mean "impulse excitation"?   why can't it mean flipping a switch to close the loop and have the oscillations build up?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #508 on: April 24, 2008, 03:28:18 PM »
so consider this

scalabilty is no problem. Jack you know mosfets were available in the 80's when SM developed this tech. If those are fets in the ftpu, they are large package devices. high power is not required here, and the small blue unit obviously is a much later model and could have used surface mount mosfets...they are pretty small, and were available in the 90's. yes a small button battery or 2 may be all that is required to get the process going.

yes, the control boxes...a diversion? i really doubt that. if that's the case then you should be questioning everything you see on the ftpu (and all the others) as a possible diversion, including that spiral wrap thingy of yours, and the choke. see where this goes?

sm agreed with carl saying sequential pulsing of coils. that's not really possible without some electronics.

there are electronics in there, in some cases minimal, but there

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #509 on: April 24, 2008, 03:54:24 PM »
why does "starting the oscillation" have to mean "impulse excitation"?   why can't it mean flipping a switch to close the loop and have the oscillations build up?

Where is the energy imbalance to start the reaction?  Before a spring can store energy, it must be compressed or expanded.  A bell does not ring on it's own.

If SM's waving of a magnet produces a "kick" directly - I'm impressed.  It's more believable that the waving of the magnet is a ruse, triggers a switch, or inductively creates an impulse that then creates the "kick" - which by running with gain, just goes round and round getting bigger and bigger.

EDIT: also, "oscillation" is not to be confused with an AC sine wave which is a pair of oscillating currents (Steinmetz and Dollard)

 

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