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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 457997 times)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #480 on: April 24, 2008, 05:08:00 AM »
Let me say this one more time,  there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.

When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.

EM

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #481 on: April 24, 2008, 05:10:09 AM »
Let me say this one more time,  there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.

When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.

EM

OK, then what are the two components in my picture?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #482 on: April 24, 2008, 05:13:18 AM »
Let me say this one more time,  there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.

When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.

EM

thank you EMdevices !!!!!!!


i second that ...

did any of you see my cap charger  ;D

ist

i will post another small pic of it it takes a swipe of a magnet to start it .. or a pluse from a d cell battery  it ran over 4 hours b4

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #483 on: April 24, 2008, 05:13:35 AM »
I see capacitors, so I agree with you there,  on the toroid, it's one of the wires and some tape I believe,  the other one I'm not sure, but there is a whole lot of tape connecting wires, and the spiral is just that, now there's another interesting feature inside, another spiral, I'll post a picture soon.

EM

P.S.  Ok here it is.  What's it for?  Tunning?  Delay coil?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2008, 05:35:23 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #484 on: April 24, 2008, 05:42:47 AM »
I see capacitors, so I agree with you there,  on the toroid, it's one of the wires and some tape I believe,  the other one I'm not sure, but there is a whole lot of tape connecting wires, and the spiral is just that, now there's another interesting feature inside, another spiral, I'll post a picture soon.

EM

P.S.  Ok here it is.  What's it for?  Tunning?  Delay coil?

That's that cylinder I was talking about.  It looks like a capacitor or a AA battery.  Can you see coils of wire on it?  I can't tell.

"Did you get that in the viewfinder?"

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #485 on: April 24, 2008, 06:07:11 AM »
i'd bet that's an electrolytic cap there EM probably output filtering.

also, let's not jump to too many conclusions about no active components and self-oscillation etc. not saying it's impossible, just that it hasn't been proven that the tpu works this way. take SM's mumbled "NO" response with a dash of salt re. the battery.

i too spotted the one mosfet there that eldarion did, by the finger. a 9V battery could easily be hidden inside the spool cylinder.

it looks like (can't be 100% sure can we?) this thing uses 1 or 2 mosfets, and a few caps. the choke could be part of an LC or filtering or both. can't do a heck of a lot with 2 mosfets, but an oscillator etc should be no problem.

if those inside vertical wires are only singles, how would they further the quad coil rmf idea i wonder?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #486 on: April 24, 2008, 06:20:30 AM »
It's a spiral of wire,  they seem to be on top as well.  Makes me wonder.

take a look at this zoomed image, notice the spirals.

Speaking of the transistor on top by the fingers, it's tape, I looked at it in slow motion frame by frame, no transistor there, sorry.

EM

P.S.  You really need to see these frames zoomed in an in slow motion, then you can tell the 3D geometry better.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #487 on: April 24, 2008, 06:48:11 AM »
Let me say this one more time,  there are no Mosfets, no transistors, no active components in the FTPU.

When the system "runs with gain" you don't need amplification, pulses or anything, it is SELF OSCILLATING if wired correctly for positive feedback.

EM

Absolutely correct. I don't thing there is anything more sophisticated than a capacitor in this entire device.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #488 on: April 24, 2008, 07:00:28 AM »
I see capacitors, so I agree with you there,  on the toroid, it's one of the wires and some tape I believe,  the other one I'm not sure, but there is a whole lot of tape connecting wires, and the spiral is just that, now there's another interesting feature inside, another spiral, I'll post a picture soon.

EM

P.S.  Ok here it is.  What's it for?  Tunning?  Delay coil?

OK, I'll concede the point, with the provision that there might be one active device, just to get the oscillations started.

That coil could be a battery, but upon close inspection with the video it is reminiscent of a standard EM delay line: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Electricdelayline.jpg

Hmmm....

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #489 on: April 24, 2008, 07:23:09 AM »
Sorry, could not resist
http://www.geocities.com/lemagicien_2000/elecpage/maxflash/maxflash.html :) (connect your control coil instead of NE2 there)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #490 on: April 24, 2008, 08:11:00 AM »
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.

...it just doesn't add up, think about it.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #491 on: April 24, 2008, 08:14:24 AM »
Sorry, could not resist
http://www.geocities.com/lemagicien_2000/elecpage/maxflash/maxflash.html :) (connect your control coil instead of NE2 there)

Aleks great link man, i'll source some of these and try it out, taking extra care i dont electricute myself

So has anyone still tried the renerator experiment yet? Can't wait myself to do abit of tpu work......

@Jack thanks for the responses.

Lets get cracking guys, we have some scope here, lets draw what we think is happeneing , then apply our knowledge in a build, I'll be starting off with a Tesla patent and see what i can do with that, even using those flash ccts into the tpu....lets move forward, if you want an incentive, watch an animated movie called the Jetsons, it's out of our failures we learn what not to do, or what doesn't work.....revisit that which we think maybe a failure, but realize hey we haven't tried that yet.......

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #492 on: April 24, 2008, 08:52:36 AM »
Sorry, could not resist
http://www.geocities.com/lemagicien_2000/elecpage/maxflash/maxflash.html :) (connect your control coil instead of NE2 there)
Aleks great link man, i'll source some of these and try it out, taking extra care i dont electricute myself
I've mistaken there... Control coil should be connected instead of flash light. NE2 is used as a triggering threshold there (kind of spark gap).

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #493 on: April 24, 2008, 09:01:24 AM »
     I see Spherics design.  SM is alive and well he just got back from vacation.
The white thing in the middle is pulsed every time.  The 3 control windings on the bottom ring are pulsed sequentially.   The top disc is your collector winding  with a current transformer wrapped around it to get the magnetic circulating current changed into voltage.  The bailing wire feeds the magnetic field of the Earth into the lower layer windings field of influence.  Gotta pulse that one too.  Spherics left that out.    I'm talking about the first TPU the one he shouldn't have shown      anyone. Pride cometh before the fall. 

     And the Walls come tumbling down.   Steven you ever figure out why it got hot?  I know why and I know how to fix it.  What I don't know is what kinda deal you got going with the rest of mankind that needs this tech fast.  If someone has you under a rock tell them to fuck off!  By the way the Chineese got 200 of these little aether spinners field testing right now.

 

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #494 on: April 24, 2008, 09:15:57 AM »
guys if there is no battery and no active devices in these things, then why did SM use tube oscillators in the early days of development?....why was SM always stressing the use of tubes?...why did SM say that MOSFETS will work, but you have to know what you're doing?...why did SM mention the huge development time of his controller and the circuit board full of parts and integrated circuits?...witnesses have seen batteries used in the device, at least to start it, why SM's reference to pure frequency?...why do some devices not even use the magnet, which SM said was not required anyway?...this quashes the "swipe of a magnet" idea doesn't it. if anything the magnets were used as a switch, either a mechanical or electrical one. he sure as heck doesn't attempt to swipe the magnet past his "receptor" to activate the FTPU...he just gently "places" it there. not much juice is going to be generated by those piddly weak RS magnets, placed at such a slow speed at such a distance from the toroid.

...it just doesn't add up, think about it.

Scalability limits the use of and size of any active components and batteries. Any active components would have to be scalable down to the smallest device. I can't imagine that the smallest device has any PCB in it at all and if there's a battery it has to be a mercury button cell which isn't going to do much or last very long and again I don't see Steven unraveling all the electrical tape every time a battery change was required.

And I would discount anything SM or counterfeit SM's say as he,they often did not tell the truth in hopes of steering everyone in the wrong direction.  Not to be a broken record on SM's technical prowess but he often explains how things work after the fact and often uses such twisted logic and creative language that it has little probative value at all.

I'll bet that in the end when this device is replicated and properly documented that the schematic will fit on an A size print. And I am sure that everyone will be ecstatic when all the convoluted concocted language and spin used to describe the inner workings of this device are translated to long established mathematics, electronics and magnetics terminology. Bye bye to SM's "receptors" "kicks" "collector coils" and hopefully Bedini's "Radiant Energy"too!   Gasp.