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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 391762 times)

Offline Grumpy

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #360 on: April 21, 2008, 06:03:30 PM »
@ Grumpy
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5kHz is probably just a mechanical resonance from SM's wonderful hand-wound, unpotted coils.   This is undesirable in speaker coils.

well I assumed that  all along, that it was some resonance due to the dimension, but then recently, I got the impression all the different TPUs, of varing diameters, all functioned at 5 to 6 KHz.    And he seems to reiterate that they extract energy from the "earth magnetic field, which has an INHERENT frequency"   It's a definite frequency, and "you tune to it" like he says.    So, is this INHERENT FREQUENCY = 5 KHz  ?

So, haveing said that, this is not in opposition to having the device resonant.  In fact, it needs to be resonant at the same frequency for it to work effectively.  After all we tune antennas to be resonant at the desired frequency.

If we are to embark on the TPU as a Receiver, theory,  then the TPU is some sort of loop antenna that taps into a naturally occuring frequency.


If SM pulsed the rings at this rate, 5 to 6 kHz, would this account for the physical vibration and audible sound?

He states at the end of one of the videos that the energy comes from "within" the device.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #361 on: April 21, 2008, 06:03:46 PM »
@slapper

Google MUSIC OF THE SPHERES, then pythagoras  you'l be pleasently suprised.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #362 on: April 21, 2008, 06:17:11 PM »
@Alex

Thanks for the correction but the initial idea stands in that at 3600 rpm you have 60hz (60x60). At 5000hz you would require an rpm of 60 x 5000 or 300,000 rpm. Now why would you want to create that much rpm when it is a know fact that you can get away with 3600. What I think is happening is SM mixes up rpm and hz when he talks about the devices. There is nothing in these devices that can justify such high frequencies.  It's just another diversion.

Like I said, I am producing with a regular relay pulsing up to 1400 volts. The FTPU was producing only 61 volts on the meter, and not on a load. So why would you need 300,000 pulse per minute just to produce 61 volts. It does not make any sense at all.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #363 on: April 21, 2008, 06:19:16 PM »

here's a site with good info about them, and who makes them

btw, why are you interested in depletion-mode? they are much less common.

...because they more closely operate like tubes maybe?

http://www.automotivedesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191900470

Thanks for the reference, I have looked at that site and a number of others before, they do describe what the DEMOS is (depletion mode mosfet) but they do not have them for sale.

Why the interest in depletion mode?
Trying to keep it simple, and allow the system to self tune, find it?s own resonant frequency by default. Then build on that. Remember the old DC bicycle bells? A set of AA or C batteries and simple coil and a leaf spring. The spring by it?s own movement interrupts the circuit, and moves back at its own natural frequency. (function of stiffness, weight etc)

I?m interested in the off part of the cycle. First having a current and then stop the flow abruptly, it would also be in line with RE behavior, kicks, etc.
So first I looked into NON SS solution such as normally closed reed switches. Place them in line with the coil, and as the coil gets magnetized the switch opens, stops the current flow, the magnetic field collapses and the cycle repeats at the frequency of the coil's magnetic field collapse and so on.

However; there are a couple of  issues with reed switches.
, They have difficulty handling inductive loads, even though they are nice little spark gap devices (normally on mode)
. Most have a self resonant frequency of 2-3 Khz and that way bellow the 5kHz mentions for the TPU. But few more difficult to source models may go higher above the 5Khz range
.Finally their cycle life is few million cycles, so the tpu would not run more than about 20 mins or so at 5khz. Go to Mhz and assuming it can switch that fast, it wouldn?t last more than few seconds.

So the next step is to look at something that would handle fast off-switching, with long cycle life, and higher frequencies just in case it needs to go up to the Mhz range.

And that led to the DpletionMode MOSFET. Were a voltage on the gate actually switches the current off and at nanosecond scale times. The signal to the gate can come directly from the control coil as it get energized and so on., or better yet from the collector so the loop is closed fully and the system automatically finds its own resonant frequency, whatever that might be, with a simple, inexpensive set up.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #364 on: April 21, 2008, 06:40:05 PM »
@mikestocks2006

You are right up the alley in good orientation of thought.

About the reed, even at 2-3khz, if you increased the inductive load with some chokes, would it be the same. Also to get the right action, one would need to test many reed values since they come in so many activation ranges. I am also looking for a three way reed. I have found some in home alarm windows or door magnetic switches. They come in 2 or 3 way. I have four of these in 3-way and was going to do some experimentation but the video had taken all my time. lol

Good to see someone else is doing it.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #365 on: April 21, 2008, 07:03:35 PM »
@ Slapper

Check this out for more info on the planets and their humm
listen here  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/spheres-2.wav\
heres the page its from  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #366 on: April 21, 2008, 07:04:57 PM »
For those of you stuck in a rut.....   :)

I would remind you to check SM's correspondence to Lindsay periodicaly,  and regardless if its authentic or not,  just taking it at face value,  you will notice that he describes different aspects of how he discovered the "secret"

1)  He talks of the "kicks"  and says it's actualy overunity, and that it proves there's interaction with the earth magnetic field, etc...

2)  He mentions transformers from his TV days and rectifyer tubes and notices interesting interactions, etc..

3)  He mentions using 3 oscillators (made with tubes)  and striking the right cords.   Then later discovering there's so many more combinations  (of frequencies I assume, but he could mean TPU topologies, etc..)

4) Talkes about the exploding TV and wondering how frequencies can be combined...

5)  He describes tuning his device simular to a radio, but actually injecting frequencies and not amplifying the signal since it "runs with gain"  etc...

6)  He talkes about moving a weak magnetic field with speed over many wires, etc..


What does all this mean?

It means not to get fixated on one variation, look at the discussions and place them in their proper place.

Personally, judging from what SM said himself (not knowing exactly where the energy is coming from and describing strong fields near and far from the device)  and knowing what he said in the correspondence,  it all points to a type of mixer/balun/loop antenna all in one, that captures an illusive 5 or 6 kHz frequency.   The rest of the discussions is about how to implement it, so you all can be correct with the different aspects.   Yes resonance is needed I can assure you.   But what can resonate so low, in such a small dimention?   Is it typical LC resonance?  maybe maybe not,  If it is, then that's why he needs a few frequencies, so he can heterodyne (mix) and get the difference to be a low value, etc...

EM
« Last Edit: April 21, 2008, 07:34:08 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #367 on: April 21, 2008, 07:14:25 PM »
I watched all of the videos & recorded what SM said about his TPUs.  Here is what he said:



12 Ounce Open Unit in the 38 Min Film.

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 1 inch.
Output = 186V @ 5 Amps.  7 Amps with a Heat Sink.

============================================
Small 1 Pounder, Open Coil.  Took Magnet from his pocket.

OD = 4 inches.
Height = 1 3/4 inches.
Output = 100V @ 1 Amp.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Small Open Coil, 1 1/2  Pounder:

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 3/4 inches.
Output = 120V @ 5 Amps.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Large 17" Open Coil.

OD = 17 inches.
Height = 3 inches.
Thickness = ?
Output = 830V @ 10 Amps.
=================================


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #368 on: April 21, 2008, 07:36:54 PM »
you should add the open TPU,  with it's 6 kHz,   

EM

P.S.   What's neat about all these variations, is the fact that they can help us identify the principles.  If we get to fixated on one device and develop a theory we might notice another device does not support that theory.

I'm intreagued by the smalles device he showed,  the one pound little one, on the glass table, wraped in blue tape, why is it so heavy?    It makes us realize it's a ferrite toroid,  or perhaps a spool full of wire (or both,etc..)  We can also see very few toroidal windings on it, interesting.   If that's all that's needed, then perhaps the secret is in the small toroids as shown in the LTPU, (and FTPU), but then that doesn't make sense that he would go to all that trouble to build this large structure just to hide the principle, etc.., etc...  Also,  the humming sound comming from this small device is magnetostriciton in action, so we can assume it has iron,    (or a speaker   LOL )    , you see so many things to weight out

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #369 on: April 21, 2008, 08:37:36 PM »
I watched all of the videos & recorded what SM said about his TPUs.  Here is what he said:



12 Ounce Open Unit in the 38 Min Film.

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 1 inch.
Output = 186V @ 5 Amps.  7 Amps with a Heat Sink.

============================================
Small 1 Pounder, Open Coil.  Took Magnet from his pocket.

OD = 4 inches.
Height = 1 3/4 inches.
Output = 100V @ 1 Amp.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Small Open Coil, 1 1/2  Pounder:

OD = 6 inches.
Height = 2 inches.
Thickness = 3/4 inches.
Output = 120V @ 5 Amps.  7.3 Hz & 5 KHz.
=================================
Large 17" Open Coil.

OD = 17 inches.
Height = 3 inches.
Thickness = ?
Output = 830V @ 10 Amps.
=================================


.

Nice compilation of data.

Takeaways =

SM was able to make the output voltage anything he wanted which points to possible primary to secondary ratio.

SM design motive for voltages is to output familiar U.S. line voltages as to appeal to potential U.S. investors.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #370 on: April 21, 2008, 08:37:42 PM »
@ Slapper

Check this out for more info on the planets and their humm
listen here  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/spheres-2.wav\
heres the page its from  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~matt/220a/hw3.htm
                                              joe

Sphere1 sounds like synth organ sample pitched up. I'm familiar with sound synthesis.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #371 on: April 21, 2008, 08:57:34 PM »
Hi Stefan,

The Carl letters are in the TPU Compilation PDF that Marco made.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9211

The letters start on page 37.

God Bless,
Jason O

Many thanks again Jason for all the work you
put into it and also for uploading the last parts.

I restudied this Document again and Marco was quite right.
The OpenTPU could also have been made
from bifilar wire.

What is clear now to me is, that ALL the TPUs
are based on rotating magnet fields
which extract like whirlwinds or tornados
probably some magnetic energy from the surrounding.

To get a basic effect I guess it is only important to rotate
3 or 4 coils with the right shiftregister pulse train,
so that we have fast revolving magnet fields and
then extract the power from it via 90 degrees oriented coils,
so the 3 or 4 control coils are not dragged down via counterEMF.

In the big 17 inch LargeTPU the output coil is just a a big ring
of stranded copper wire ( loudspeaker cable), where the control coils are wound around it.

In the OpenTPU SM speaks of:

"here I place the magnets into
the "Receptors""

Could these "Receptors" be the
Receivers of energy of the rotating magnet field ?

Probably yes !

I played around yeasterday night to deinterlace the
video and have looked at it back and forth for several hours
again and again in slow motion and also changed the Gamma and contrast
to see more wires, etc...
and I am sure the OpenTPU has at least 3 or 4 of these
magnets with "Receptors" in these "stand quaders"

Also SM admitted in that compiled PDF document that
there are 9 Volt batteries in some TPUs
for setting up the control circuits..

So I think these "Receptors" are just special 90 degrees coils
to the rotating magnet vortex which intercept the rotating flux
and don?t weaken the rotating flux.

I still need to try other deinterlace filters for virtualdubmod
and when I am ready I will post these deinterlaced
short clips.

Regards, Stefan.

Nice to see a return to the 90 degree displaced coil topology as that is the correct assumption. The gyroscopic effect was due to the four coils stepping from one to the next. There had to be a heck of a lot of energy present to create the physical effect motion like this. SM's references to resistance to motion was not a distraction or ruse. This device could be some type of resonant motor that performs like the Tesla 381,970 patent reveals.

Again considering the design's seemingly unlimited scalability factor, resonance must be achievable without requiring a tuning as much as jump starting the engine so to speak. Once the motor starts is self locks at the resonant frequency and remains locked. So are we looking at trying to receive a harmonic of the Schumann cavity or it this device really a phase locked loop in quadrature?!

Now to revisit the tortured logic and terminology SM used to describe what he didn't understand as it was all after the fact knowledge, and using "tube" theory as a translator or filter rework the theories.


On a lighter note I would dismiss the term "receptor" as a SM "Star Trek" moment.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #372 on: April 21, 2008, 09:15:14 PM »
hi all

@jack,
I am not that much into football, only when we play the european cup or the world cup.
But when I happen to stumble into the guy i will ask for you ;)
if you are interrested in what I do in my spare time:
http://turbo124.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4717


@all

I dont believe the RPM of the TPU was that high, otherwise a spinning compass would never have kept up with the starting rotating field.

If the earth is a giant radio station, we must be darn close to it, rigth on its surface....

Greetings Rene.


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« Reply #373 on: April 21, 2008, 09:34:15 PM »
@slapper

Google MUSIC OF THE SPHERES, then pythagoras  you'l be pleasently suprised.
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Like in http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Pythagoras-Was-Right-Scientists-Devise-the-Geometrical-Music-Theory-2.jpg ?

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« Reply #374 on: April 21, 2008, 09:39:01 PM »
For those pursuing the rotational magnetic field in the traditional sense (AC motors, tesla, etc..)  here's a diagram of how I remember the motors being configured to run off of one phase.  Notice, to get the extra phase (90 degree) a capacitor is introduced. 

I've often wondered,  what if we drive the darn thing at the resonance of the armature inductance and the capacitor tank resonance?     

To try and get a looped back TPU,   the signal generator can be replaced by some coils wound around the armature, then a swipe of the magnet should create something.   I tried this in the past but had no luck with it, but that doesn't mean much, since I work kind of sloppy.


Anyway, if you don't get much from this at least you can see how to wind the armatures.

EM

 

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