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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 457902 times)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #255 on: April 19, 2008, 07:10:14 AM »
Well the following photo just blew away a possible full wound pancake coil.

That little hole just saved a potential of wasted time. You can see the hole from the other side in the second photo. So the coil is not going at least past this hole, leaving a maximum of maybe 9 or 10 winds on the collector, or as few as EM has shown earlier. Good.

Another part of the puzzle now for the collector is shown in the second photo. If the collector is white glued to the outer rim of the spool rings, why can you still see the rim. It should be covered with the collector and the glue. This is why I feel there are more winds in the collector and they go under and past the rim.


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #256 on: April 19, 2008, 08:36:16 AM »
Well the following photo just blew away a possible full wound pancake coil.

That little hole just saved a potential of wasted time. You can see the hole from the other side in the second photo. So the coil is not going at least past this hole, leaving a maximum of maybe 9 or 10 winds on the collector, or as few as EM has shown earlier. Good.

Another part of the puzzle now for the collector is shown in the second photo. If the collector is white glued to the outer rim of the spool rings, why can you still see the rim. It should be covered with the collector and the glue. This is why I feel there are more winds in the collector and they go under and past the rim.



Well done!

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #257 on: April 19, 2008, 10:02:06 AM »
Hi Chaps
Can i suggest that someone tries to track down MM, if he did indeed try back engineering this thing he may know loads, also because of his close partnership to SM he may have valuable info.

I have found this, i mean ow many people could have this name?

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/lake/8491/geobook.html

MM - 09/16/99 00:54:58
My Email:xxxxx
Where are you from?: Southern California
How old are you?: 36
What is your favorite book?: Too many to mention

Comments:
It is interesting that my last name is Marilla. I love all the Anne of Green Gables movies. I would like more information on the "Continuing Story" I have not been able to find it.

@ Jack
Would this age of 36 in 1999 be correct for the person we are looking for, and would you know if he was Southern California.

Peter
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 11:12:25 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #258 on: April 19, 2008, 10:47:48 AM »


M. was about that age at that time but you would get more pertinent information from Steven's dogs. M. was a nice enough fellow but he knew nothing about the technology beyond basic items he purchased at Radio Shack for Steven. His name can be traced to the California penal system. Beyond that I could run a Nexus Lexis search but I doubt it will reveal anything of value.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 11:14:15 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #259 on: April 19, 2008, 11:45:50 AM »
Hi Jack
M. may not know that much, but any information no matter how small may be important, but one thing i have learnt in the UK when tracing people is that it's a lot easier with a name that's not common, i dont know what resources there are in the US for doing searches but just tried a web site called one minute People finder and it shows only one entry for M. in California, and it says it can give me all the records on him,how upto date this is i have no idea, but when i filled in the payment form it goes blank and doesnt do anything.   :(

Even a list of parts he bought from Radio Shack would be handy.

Peter
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 11:15:00 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #260 on: April 19, 2008, 12:40:50 PM »
Does anyone know, where I can find few Depletion Mode MOSFETS, preferably low ir and high breakdown voltage?

Also, were these type of transistors available (and easily accessible) during the time when SM built his TPUs ?

Thanks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #261 on: April 19, 2008, 12:41:17 PM »
 
Nice scoop Peter...I agree with you...leave no stone unturned...who knows what this guy may know or have in his possession.

This proves once again that important information can be found in the most unimportant of places.

With so many resourceful people here, something will break through somewhere if we all feed of each others ideas.

Regards...


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #262 on: April 19, 2008, 04:50:13 PM »
Does anyone know, where I can find few Depletion Mode MOSFETS, preferably low ir and high breakdown voltage?

Also, were these type of transistors available (and easily accessible) during the time when SM built his TPUs ?

Thanks

here's a site with good info about them, and who makes them

btw, why are you interested in depletion-mode? they are much less common.

...because they more closely operate like tubes maybe?

http://www.automotivedesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191900470

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #263 on: April 19, 2008, 06:51:16 PM »
QUESTION TO JACK DURBAN PLEASE:

what is the material the 2 black rings are made of in the OTPU?

if you don't know, please say so and we can drop this question.

thanks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #264 on: April 19, 2008, 11:55:35 PM »
For those not seeing how ELF can be part of any TPU operation I offer this: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3399311.html
The application is of an inductive frequency divider. What they don't show is how you can wrap their coil (vertical) around a horizontal coil and also effect the resonance of that horizontal coil.
As I believe I see in the first TPU (the one pulled from the bag):
1. changing the control coil wrap direction every 180 degrees so each CC pulse creates one full wave in the collector, albeit likely highly compressed.
2. double the amount of turns in each group of turns from the top CC to the bottom CC. It 'looks like' the top CC turns are in groups of two and the bottom one in groups of four.
Using the above coil setup we should be able to create two different frequencies with only one multi-vibrator/oscillator. Since it would be only one signal source there would be no tracking problem. The difference between the collector frequencies would be controlled by the collector content, spacing between collectors and control coil design.

I've already experimented with some of this idea. But the above package needs to be confirmed. I do know you can create a DC (battery-like w/noise) output on the collector when you wrap the CC series opposing bifilar(just not much). The idea is to create a zero net mag field in the CC while inducing in only one direction into the collector. And find what frequency the collector resonates at with the pulses on the CC. -the old squeezing the hose stuff again. I do not see that method here.

>>Edit - er'a Brain Fart

Rat race is the wrong thing to do. The rat race should be the result not the cause. A ring with multiple CC's. Each end of each CC faces an opposing  the same magnetic polarity from the next coil. They are all connected in series. Pulse the chain and create magnetic voids/nulls  collisions between them. Create at mag nul peak and an electric charge appears to fill the void  equalize (viola DC). It doesn't matter which pole is facing where as long as it faces an opposing pole the same polarity. The collector is running through the axis so it receives the charge.
Use the output of one collector to feed the input of the other set of CC's and that collector feeds the first set of CC's. There is where 90 degrees out of phase comes in to create sustaining rotation. <Edit> Here is where the TLF's come in. Not just to couple and filter but to shift phase. Then all is needed is best frequencies and finding the potential.

Got some mods to do.........
« Last Edit: April 20, 2008, 01:37:19 AM by BEP »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #265 on: April 20, 2008, 06:26:33 AM »
QUESTION TO JACK DURBAN PLEASE:

what is the material the 2 black rings are made of in the OTPU?

if you don't know, please say so and we can drop this question.

thanks

Wood.

 I would completely discount any exotic materials anywhere in the device as the videos support. The device is ultra simple and if SM could build them anyone can. It's just finding right relationship between the windings.

You must understand that SM was and is a B.S. artist, a con man. I know some of you can't fathom that but it is fact. I know first hand. He will lie when there's no reason to lie. He makes claims that anyone can prove false. Case in point: his reference to having hundreds of patents and one had over 750 pages. All 100% B.S. He has one utility patent on an unproven 3D sound theory and 5 design patents on speaker aesthetics. The sound patent is a real patent. The design patents are worthless.

As one who has written dozens of patents and read thousands I can't recall ever seeing any patent over a couple hundred pages regardless of of the technology or process.

This device was already in existence long before SM somehow got his hands on one.


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #266 on: April 20, 2008, 06:53:25 AM »
@Jdurban
    After looking through patents 381,968  381,970 and 382,279, tesla described a set of modifications throughout all those patents that when combined would look similar to motor with a generator superimposed upon it.  He describes how to get rid of the contacts so the motor needs no moving parts and describes how the generator can be built  in similar construction. later he associates a drawing that represents a motionless motor wound on an annular iron core with 4 sets of coils in quadrature with multiple coils imposed upon the sets "superimposed", he later describes how one could encase that whole device in a continuous steel shell .  Whats your take on the modifications he proposes in those patents.
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This sure sounds a lot like what your describing



The inducing or primary coils wound on the core I
are divided into pairs or sets by the proper
electrical connections, so that while the coils of
one pair or set to co-operate in fixing the magnetic
poles of the core at two given diametrically-opposite points, the coils of the other pair
or set?assuming, for sake of illustration, that
there are but two?tend to fix the poles ninety
degrees from such points. With this induction
device I use an alternating-current generator with coils
or sets of coils to correspond
with those of the converter, and by means of
suitable conductors I connect no in independent
circuits the corresponding coils of the generator
and converter. It results from this that the different electrical phases in the generator
are attended by corresponding magnetic
changes in the converter; or, in other
words, that as the generator-coils revolve the
points of greatest magnetic intensity in the converter will be progressively shifted or
whirled around. This principle I have applied
under variously-modified conditions to
the operation of electromagnetic motors, and
in 'p previous applications, notably in those having Serial Nos. 252,132 and 256,561, I have described
in detail the manner of constructing
and using such motors

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #267 on: April 20, 2008, 07:07:18 AM »
@ Jack, thanks for the reply on the material. are those the speaker parts you mentioned before?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #268 on: April 20, 2008, 07:41:10 AM »

You must understand that SM was and is a B.S. artist, a con man. I know some of you can't fathom that but it is fact. I know first hand. He will lie when there's no reason to lie. He makes claims that anyone can prove false. Case in point: his reference to having hundreds of patents and one had over 750 pages. All 100% B.S. He has one utility patent on an unproven 3D sound theory and 5 design patents on speaker aesthetics. The sound patent is a real patent. The design patents are worthless.


Jack,

What is the chance that the devices themselfs were a fake?

Suppose he would connect them to a charger at the end of the day to charge them up for next show..
There are many ways to fake what is seen on the video tapes.
I can build something that looks exactly the same with a series of nicad's inside and power bulbs for a short period of time.
Is it possible that he hired you to come up with something that would work just because his was a fake??
If Steven was that master of BS and the con man, then i think the device itself could be fake too because he was just in for the money...
Many people who work on something for a long time fake it when they cannot get it done.

M.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #269 on: April 20, 2008, 08:00:38 AM »
@Jdurban
    After looking through patents 381,968  381,970 and 382,279, tesla described a set of modifications throughout all those patents that when combined would look similar to motor with a generator superimposed upon it.  He describes how to get rid of the contacts so the motor needs no moving parts and describes how the generator can be built  in similar construction. later he associates a drawing that represents a motionless motor wound on an annular iron core with 4 sets of coils in quadrature with multiple coils imposed upon the sets "superimposed", he later describes how one could encase that whole device in a continuous steel shell .  Whats your take on the modifications he proposes in those patents.
                                                                                                                      Joe
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This sure sounds a lot like what your describing



The inducing or primary coils wound on the core I
are divided into pairs or sets by the proper
electrical connections, so that while the coils of
one pair or set to co-operate in fixing the magnetic
poles of the core at two given diametrically-opposite points, the coils of the other pair
or set?assuming, for sake of illustration, that
there are but two?tend to fix the poles ninety
degrees from such points. With this induction
device I use an alternating-current generator with coils
or sets of coils to correspond
with those of the converter, and by means of
suitable conductors I connect no in independent
circuits the corresponding coils of the generator
and converter. It results from this that the different electrical phases in the generator
are attended by corresponding magnetic
changes in the converter; or, in other
words, that as the generator-coils revolve the
points of greatest magnetic intensity in the converter will be progressively shifted or
whirled around. This principle I have applied
under variously-modified conditions to
the operation of electromagnetic motors, and
in 'p previous applications, notably in those having Serial Nos. 252,132 and 256,561, I have described
in detail the manner of constructing
and using such motors


Glad to see you are thinking Tesla, especially US 381,970. As depicted there is no other document I am aware of that so closely represents the SM device from a conceptual viewpoint. I need to revisit the disclosures made in the specification to refresh my memory but one thing that stood out more than anything at the time of my first review was Tesla's obvious attempts to conceal key elements in preferred embodiments while teaching others. I am not familiar with the statutes of that era but today to not fully disclose best mode is a violation of patent law and would invalidate such a patent upon demand of re-examination and if best mode was not disclosed.

In general terms it looked as if Tesla feared full disclosure of best mode by focusing on conventional generator means rather than embodiments that might appear to be that of a perpetual motion machine that could be rejected by statute.

Motive must be considered in reading anything having to do with over unity inventors!