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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 459789 times)

EMdevices

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #225 on: April 18, 2008, 04:22:03 AM »
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue.  Is this a fact?

In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc..    If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage,  I would expect it to power a DC motor.  If it does NOT,  then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.   

EM
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #226 on: April 18, 2008, 04:45:15 AM »
Responses to multiple earlier questions and statements:

Piezo switches.... the taken name of piezoswitch is not what I meant. A company named Klixon used to make them. You pressed them and they made an audible click. As you released them they would click again. (Click On! .... Click Off!) Remeber that stupid TV commercial? They had a deformed bi-metallic disc. The piezo version used the sudden mechanical shift (from the click) to strike a piezo-electric element that created a spark. The same idea is used in pilot light and gas grill ignitors.

Tubes/Collectors.... Old tube type folks would tell you the 'collector ring' was a ring added to collect extra electrons that bounced off the plate/anode. It prevented early failure due to the unwanted extra energy and possible X-Ray radiation when overdriven.

AC/DC? Judging by the many texts about the TPU I would say the output is potential varying over time but not dropping below the zero point (as seen from the frame of the load). So, PC would be most correct.

Not able to run inductive loads?? This tells me there is very little, if any, capacitive reactance in the device. The inverter shown on the video looks very similar to those used in switchgear houses that had 110VDC battery control power systems. Could be just the fact that it was ugly... I'm not that sure after this many years.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #227 on: April 18, 2008, 04:46:21 AM »
Quote from: EMdevices on April 18, 2008, 04:22:03 AM
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue.  Is this a fact?

In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc..    If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage,  I would expect it to power a DC motor.  If it does NOT,  then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.   

EM

was he using an OTS inverter?
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #228 on: April 18, 2008, 05:22:39 AM »
A collection of high-quality still shots extracted from the video would be much smaller and easier to download.

If the available video capture equipment can do true "raw" capture with no compression, image averaging could be used to clean up the video "noise" (speckling, etc) from tape.  This could be done as follows.

1.  Find one or two second sections in the video that have closeup shots of the device with no camera motion.
2.  Capture these from tape as a set of raw image files, preferably in a format with many color bits like PNG or TIFF.  The key is avoiding any MPEG-like compression that many video capture devices normally do.
3.  Use some image processing program to average together these files, producing a single result file.  In free software, GIMP or ImageJ might support this.  Most of the improvement happens in the first few files, a 4 to 64 file run should be enough.
4.  Make the resulting uncompressed images available for download.

This same technique should also work on Testatika videos.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #229 on: April 18, 2008, 06:50:25 AM »
Quote from: EMdevices on April 18, 2008, 04:22:03 AM
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue.  Is this a fact?

In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc..    If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage,  I would expect it to power a DC motor.  If it does NOT,  then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.   

EM

I must have missed that part of that video. I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed that he figured out the whole inductive load issue.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #230 on: April 18, 2008, 07:33:23 AM »
Quote from: MeggerMan on April 16, 2008, 12:16:01 AM
@Wattsup,
Thanks for the PDF document, quite a lot of work has gone into that.
I am wondering if the board had a simple rat race circuit on it, I think it could be built with 2 x ICs and a simple single transistor oscillator to drive it, plus three transistors for the output stage - OK maybe the component count is still too high.

I wonder if its possible to have 3 coils driven by 3 mosfets and use the back emf from each coil to trigger the next mosfet in the chain, so you have a self sustaining simple rat race circuit. You would need to pulse the first coil manually to start it running.
Regards
Rob



I don't know, but I have been tinkering with the idea myself, and have drawn up a schematic you could try. I drew it for a different thread, but will repost here since you are interested.

(http://www.geocities.com/pauldude000/images/possiblecc.jpg)

Note: the "grounds" on the mosfets are the collector coil inputs for each CC.

I hope this helps.

Paul Andrulis


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aleks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #231 on: April 18, 2008, 08:29:11 AM »
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 18, 2008, 02:45:17 AM
Also you would have heard the switching noise from the moving reed metals...so no way he used these
as oscillators..
They are placed in vacuum, you won't hear them working that much.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #232 on: April 18, 2008, 10:38:33 AM »
Quote from: jdurban on April 18, 2008, 06:50:25 AM
Quote from: EMdevices on April 18, 2008, 04:22:03 AM
The fact his device can't run inductive loads, if true, can be quite an important clue.  Is this a fact?

In a later video he has an inverter to get 60 Hz AC and he powers a TV, drill etc..    If his TPU outputs DC at 137 volts or whatever voltage,  I would expect it to power a DC motor.  If it does NOT,  then that tells me even more about the output characteristics.   

EM

I must have missed that part of that video. I didn't pay that much attention. I assumed that he figured out the whole inductive load issue.

Jack,
he means this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pOpcSmIzE
and starting at around minute 16
there are the other things to see, that you do not have on your tape.

Regards, Stefan.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #233 on: April 18, 2008, 10:52:02 AM »
In this above video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pOpcSmIzE

he clearly says at 6:16 min, that the output is DC with 5000 Hz sine wave superimposed.

This was confirmed by the experiments from Roberto.
See Roberto?s experiment here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6kzqVSk8tc

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #234 on: April 18, 2008, 02:16:10 PM »
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 18, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
In this above video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pOpcSmIzE

he clearly says at 6:16 min, that the output is DC with 5000 Hz sine wave superimposed.

did he say that  ???

it gets harder every time false facts are added to the mix. i see this happening a lot around here  :'(
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #235 on: April 18, 2008, 05:13:43 PM »
Actualy, what I heard in the video, with the smalles TPU on the glass table,   he says something like ...  it's DC with a "slight" frequency around 5 kHz.....

This is what it means to me, see chart.   "slight" means to me small ripple, as in it's amplitude is small compared to the main DC level.

EM
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #236 on: April 18, 2008, 05:18:23 PM »
Actually he says:
Quote:
"One of the questions of the device was, that
it produces ONLY DC at 5000 Hz sinewave and we have created an inverter
which will take the high voltage DC and convert that into the 120 Volts  60 Hz cycles sinewaves
to operate Televison sets and power appliances."


So he says 2 times his device puts out DC !

That means to me pulsed DC with some 5000 Hz AC ripple superimposed
as EMdevices just posted in his graphic.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #237 on: April 18, 2008, 08:01:37 PM »
@All
Too much imagination is not doing any good.

You are playing a wild guess. In the second open tpu SM is using a transformer to connect the bulbs. The second test with the same tpu is without using the transformer. If the tpu had a high dc component (superimposed ac on dc), the transformer wouldn?t be effective, but it worked just fine. Which means it is producing pulses of the same polarity mostly, ie, pulsed dc. As simple as is. Or at least, it is not ac superimposed on dc.

Kames.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #238 on: April 18, 2008, 09:29:02 PM »
Quote from: kames on April 18, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
You are playing a wild guess. In the second open tpu SM is using a transformer to connect the bulbs. The second test with the same tpu is without using the transformer. If the tpu had a high dc component (superimposed ac on dc), the transformer wouldn?t be effective, but it worked just fine. Which means it is producing pulses of the same polarity mostly, ie, pulsed dc. As simple as is. Or at least, it is not ac superimposed on dc.

Kames.


If I am reading this correctly you are talking about the black, open tpu that he uses in the garage with the two lamps.  That box he hooked the TPU to was just a wall box with sockets in it.  The output of the TPU is run to what looks like a Power Wheels (pow, pow, power wheels) battery connection.  The box with the plugs has the receiving connection coming out of it.  This was not a transformer but just a box to make a much easier connection to the TPU.

He makes it very apparent that he is afraid of shocking the pee pee out of himself and in other videos with the "observers" he warned them to be careful and not play too much as he has seen people get HURT with the device.  It is putting out real power and is not a toy.  It is possibly, if not probably, lethal if mishandled.

It's the same principle that was applied on the TPUs that were taped up and had a single wall socket coming out of them.  The TPU he took outside did not have the 'power wheels' adapter with a wall socket connection and he lit the bulb by touching directly it to the leads sticking out.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #239 on: April 18, 2008, 09:35:36 PM »
Quote from: Spoodily on April 18, 2008, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: kames on April 18, 2008, 08:01:37 PM
You are playing a wild guess. In the second open tpu SM is using a transformer to connect the bulbs. The second test with the same tpu is without using the transformer. If the tpu had a high dc component (superimposed ac on dc), the transformer wouldn?t be effective, but it worked just fine. Which means it is producing pulses of the same polarity mostly, ie, pulsed dc. As simple as is. Or at least, it is not ac superimposed on dc.

Kames.


If I am reading this correctly you are talking about the black, open tpu that he uses in the garage with the two lamps.  That box he hooked the TPU to was just a wall box with sockets in it.  The output of the TPU is run to what looks like a Power Wheels (pow, pow, power wheels) battery connection.  The box with the plugs has the receiving connection coming out of it.  This was not a transformer but just a box to make a much easier connection.

He makes it very apparent that he is afraid of shocking the pee pee out of himself and in other videos with the "observers" he warned them to be careful and not play too much as he has seen people get HURT with the device.  It is putting out real power and is not a toy.  It is possibly, if not probably, lethal if mishandled.

It's the same principle that was applied on the TPUs that were taped up and had a single wall socket coming out of them.  The TPU he took outside did not have the 'power wheels' adapter connection and he lit the bulb by touching it to the leads sticking out.

Again. Listen to what SM said about that box in the video before inventing anything on your own about it.

Kames.
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