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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 456432 times)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2008, 06:32:36 PM »
@Stefan

Thanks. Again this was made in October 2007 and will be corrected, but it is a good base to move forward with this better video. By the way, with Media Player Classic you can zoom in and run the video really close. Did not know that way back. lol

You are also touching on some things in this following post I had prepared during the last few days. Sorry if it is long.

@ALL

Why do I feel the reed switch is a key. Because it can produce a pulsing frequency that will be directly proportional to the circumference of the TPU. Why, because any circumference will have x turns and will have y inductance and with a capacitor of given value will produce its own frequency. This pulsing will be caused by the complimentary and mutual interaction between the control coil(s), the center toroid(s) and the cap(s). So, of course, the frequency, or more precisely the frequency range, will be related to the circumference.

Imagine you want to pulse the vertical control coils with an on/off DC. So you place a toroid choke in series with the control coil. You put the reed switch in series with the control coil and the toroid and you position the reed near the toroid at a position where when the toroid is energized, it opens the reed switch that stops current, that stops the toroid mag, that closes the reed, that again energizes the coils and bingo, you have pulsing and this will be directly proportional to the components that are in series. Since the reed is magnetically driven this isolates the function since the drive side does not require a current, only magnetism plus the reed will pulse any type of voltage that the tpu will throw back at it.

Yeh but to start this. The reed is normally "open" so the coils cannot get energized. OK, approach a magnet near the toroid. To latch a reed with a magnet, it is a question of proximity. In the small units, proximity is very close so direct placement of a weak magnet does the trick to latch the reed. In the 17" TPU, if there was one reed below each toroid, proximity would be further away inside the black box. As EM says the speaker magnet rightly so has one closed metal washer on one side and one center opened washer on the other side that pushes the field through the center from one side. This is perfect to localize a strong mag field near the toroid to activate the reed and start the process. If the reed is further away, you need a stronger magnet hence his use of the stronger speaker magnet. The only reason he does not place magnets on the 17" TPU is because the toroids are being used both as an induction to charge the yellow caps and as the magnetics to latch the reed.

Now look at the frequencies. If you had a fixed starting voltage, what happens as you increase or decrease inductance and capacitance. The frequency changes. It goes down when you increase, it goes up when you decrease. The 17" TPU has much more windings, more inductance plus it has 4 pretty good capacitors, but at least the two yellow caps to pulse the unit, because the two black ones are is series and obviously the output caps. This brings your pulsing frequency to a lower iteration. Now take the 6" TPU, much less windings, certainly much smaller capacitor, means much faster frequency. This is how I see the relationship between the different frequencies per TPU. I may have said it wrong but hopefully you get the drift. For a TPU Frequency = speed of pulsation. The differene between the LPTU and the smaller ones is the same as the flapping wings of an eagle versus a hummingbird.

As Stefan mentions, did you notice the pot control that is next to the two switches on the LTPU. Why put it there when everything else is so snugly hidden away. This for me is the delay so that both sets of toroid/control coil pairs do not pulse at the same time. If you have four control coils set in opposing pairs and each pair is in series with a toroid, a capacitor and a reed, you now have the basis for pulsing. The pot is used just to offset one of the sets so you get something resembling a circular motion.

In the 17" TPU there is a horizontal wire of at least 6 turns that starts three on the bottom, two in the middle and one on the top. This is what I call the collector. Pass a magnet over a wire. As the control coil pairs alternately pulse this creates a rotation over the collector coil. This is so basic that this would be the most complex I would expect this device to be. Or thereabouts. A virtual alternator using a single wire stator. And this falls perfectly with what we can see, or more precisely what we cannot see in the cut-away of the TPU.

The build is easy. One wire (maybe bundled litz) with six horizontal winds, four vertical 90 degree coils, two toroids, two reeds, a few caps and testing can start. Each toroid has two coils that are paralelled to make one, hence will handle more amperage. lol

If you have a vertical control coil with a long center air core, the bottom will have a different polarity then the top so your collector that is rising in the air core is being pushed and pulled at the same time from each side of the polarities. I think there is a way to double the TPU output with a simple addition. We'll see.

Last thing, notice that when I am talking about the function, I am pointing to specific parts of the TPUs and not discussing grand theories of the universe. If we keep it real, we will get the answers soon enough. Yes there may be fault in the above but it is a basis to continue relevant observations. I think the description above is close enough to start a build and work around it.

The main point here is using the magnetic field not only to move energy but also as the pulsing medium. This eliminates the need for transistors, mosfets, and drivers.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2008, 06:48:31 PM »
interesting concepts wattsup,

@all

look how simple this thing is

EM

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2008, 07:08:52 PM »
And of course the open , two ring, TPU is my favorite.

Jack, can you comment on the rings?  What material , iron, conductor, or just plastic?

EM


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2008, 07:38:04 PM »
Hi EM,
I guess you are wrong.
the white wire is the output coil and it goes inside all the 4 red control coils.

YOu see it where he has his thumb there a bit lower than his thumb.

So all the 4 red control coils are wound around this white wire
and rotate the field and produce the DC voltage of 91.2 Volts DC
with some 5 to 6 Khz hash on the white wire.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2008, 07:39:59 PM »
I agree Stefan, but why do you say I'm "wrong"?   Did I draw something or implied a wire connection in my model?  It is just meant to duplicate the picture roughly.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2008, 07:57:49 PM »
I thought it was a pretty good pix EM.

I DL'd the video but haven't watched it yet (started the DL last night from Jason) So I am providing a seed as well, so all should grab it since my DSL connection is pretty fast as well.

So this pix was grabbed frlom the VOB file?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2008, 07:58:07 PM »
Hi EM,
I think this is more like this
enclosed picture.

The white coil , if it is the output coil must just have 50 milliOhms
DC resistance, so it is probably just one single wire going inside the 4 red control coils !

The other components inside the stands are probably some capacitors to control
the 90 degrees phase shift between the 4 red control coils.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2008, 08:13:47 PM »
That's an interesting concept Stefan,  I know why you say that as well. The first TPU certainly has the Collector wire and SM talked about them, but this open TPU does not "appear" to have the typical COLLECTOR wire.

This can have two implications:

1)  We can not see it well enough in the pictures, and so can assume it's there.

2)  This tells us something about the versatility of the technology, and hence will help us to identify the principles.


I tend towards the second option, but have considered the first as well.  The beauty of it is,  I have a theory like I wrote on previous postings.  If the rings are iron, they will have standing waves based on MAGNETOSTRICION acting to setup sound waves/vibrations.  This is the link to getting the MOTION  we want.   I've experimented with this and it's real. 

I should also make a statement and say I fully believe the COLLECTOR IS MADE OF IRON WIRE  OR BAILING WIRE, which explains a lot of things including the rapid heating  (hysteris losses)

EM

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2008, 08:14:45 PM »
Hey Stefan you forgot the coils are bifilar to cancel out the flux.
This is visible in the pictures too... it's two wires.

M.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2008, 08:15:54 PM »
wattsup, hartiberlin  I think you are very close. I've studied what reed switch is and it can be exactly the thing that replaces electronics. It actually is much better since it behaves as saw-tooth oscillator - well, closer to DC on-off pulsing, but still its "off" transient should be sloped a bit I think due to capacitor discharge into the next pulse. Reed switch may still appear closed when capacitor is mostly discharged - it will open when magnetic field is on its minimum. So, it's clearly should be a saw-tooth voltage waveform.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2008, 08:27:32 PM »
this open TPU does not "appear" to have the typical COLLECTOR wire.

This can have two implications:

1)  We can not see it well enough in the pictures, and so can assume it's there.

The construction of the open TPU implies the collector wire should be on the side invisible on the photo or it would be curved - there are blocks present that keep rings of the TPU together.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2008, 09:05:40 PM »
@Guys

Let's not see who is right and wrong here. Just throw whatever you can see out there. We put out all the ingredients on the table and do the cooking later. lol

Let's get the tpus identified. I propose the following.

FTPU = First TPU he takes out of his carrying case.
OTPU = Open TPU
SPTU = His smallest round toroid type.
6TPU = His 6" toroid type.
MTPU = The one he cut.
LTPU = The biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig one

On the OPTU it is possible that the four coils are actually the collector. The two coils pulse and send out a mag field that gets concentrated over these coils by the two disks that hold in the field. All you want is a mag movement over some wires. I will take some closer looks.

@EM

Good work there.

On the FTPU, where you point to a capacitor, could this also be an oscillator.

Also the toroid has the same L-bracket metal mounting as the two on the LPTU. This says it is coming either off the self or taken from another equipment.

For some reason I am having trouble grabbing images, but if you look again at the FPTU video, look when he turns the unit over the first time, look between his two thumbs you will see there is a capacitor between the disks. You will see it again when he turns it back over. You need a quick finger on the space bar to stop it in time. lol

You can also see in the center core the white wires going from one disk to the other.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2008, 09:12:32 PM »
FTPU = First TPU he takes out of his carrying case.
OTPU = Open TPU
SPTU = His smallest round toroid type.
6TPU = His 6" toroid type.
MTPU = The one he cut.
LTPU = The biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig one


yes, I like this convention.  Let's put all the ingredients on the table  :)

EM

P.S.  Regarding the FTPU,  here's a diagram of what I see, now,  how do we connect it?  :)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #118 on: April 16, 2008, 09:32:11 PM »
here you can see the control coils is two wires.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2008, 09:45:19 PM »
I think the reed switch/magnet is no more than a switch that looked cooler than a gaudy dangling toggle. Reeds have limited actuations and fail. I doubt Steven would have jeopardized demos over reeds getting close to their MTBF counts. And if magnets were of any value they would be deployed in the large unit.

Another give away regarding the magnet ruse...Listen to the audio in the garage demo of the nicer looking device sitting atop a box. As Steven places the two magnets he says something like " I am now placing the magnets into their "receptors". Receptors?!!! He might as well said "muffler bearings'. Here is a guy who knows enough to build these and uses common vernacular everywhere else in his dissertations then all of a sudden refers to receptacles as receptors. This was the subconscious mind revealing the insignificance of the magnets.

The question regarding the unit that is demonstrated atop the Sony VCR's. It is made out of an empty wire spool. The end caps are plastic and the spindle is tin or steel. The windings appear to be wound independently of the spool end caps and attached as a subassembly.

To improve the video quality someone could simply de-interlace the footage and convert it to progressive. This will take the annoying motion caused jagged edges as the fields interlace.

I can do it tomorrow night if no one has time.