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Offline aleks

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #1080 on: June 27, 2008, 06:08:55 PM »
How much power do you think one would need to create such a magnetorestrictive action (MRA). Is the power level small enough to fit inside a TPU? If the TPU does not use batteries, then any theory would have to start with 0 volts and work its way up. If it does use batteries, then the theory would have to start at that voltage level and work its way up. If the theory requires power that goes above and beyond any feasible power availability in a TPU, then the theory should be dropped or shown to comply in a new way to the TPU.

I know we all consider the gyroscopic effect of the TPUs and this can be thought of as an MRA, but it could also simply be the action of continuously pulsing a left then right coil. You may physically feel the pusling action but it does not mean it is an intentional MRA, but a byproduct of the overall effects.
No need for much initial energy, really, and it may start with a 9 volt battery since metal "rings" for a very long time, accumulating energy if in resonance. Acoustic waves in fact carry tiny amount of energy. The power of acoustics is in resonant modes, because they create static pressure non-equilibriums within matter, not attainable otherwise.  (please do not call it "magnetorestrictive" action - it is magnetoSTRICTIVE).

So, as I propose, TPU may be initiated both by direct magnetostriction (harder to control and balance) and by piezo-transducer (easier to control and balance). An iron wire can be used to create a controllable mechanical feedback - exactly what Keely did in his motor. But I think it may be totally unnecessary if the frequencies and toroid dimensions are in perfect sync.

Magnetostrictive action may also describe the "turbine" effect, because acoustics are relatively slow. For example, if "power limiter" of the device expects some parameter to reach some predefined value (e.g. power of acoustic vibration), upon connecting a load the acoustic vibration may lower due to energy going into electrical path and causing mechanical vibration to become lower, and so self-control system will further increase the power of acoustic stimulation - and this takes time and produces "turbine" effect. It is much like how voltage regulators work in the grid - when voltage drops, some parts of circuitry are "loosened" and voltage returns to normal state.

(ultrasonic metal cutting is similarly based on acoustic modes)
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 06:49:23 PM by aleks »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #1081 on: June 27, 2008, 08:14:27 PM »
@kames and poynt99

This would eventually have to be tested both ways otherwise we'll be going back and forth forever. Just know that on the right toroid there is another wire going into the toroid side bundle making five wires in the bundle. See my third image above.


@wattsup

Yes, there is a fifth wire that looks like coming out of that little toroid. It is also obvious from the screenshot I posted (it is not my screenshot, borrowed). That is a thin wire twisted around one main dark wire coming from the toroid on the left side. However, it is not obvious that the fifth wire is really coming out of the toroid because of the bad picture quality. Remember how many wrong assumptions were made before based on the low picture quality. There are no parallel connections that can be stated as obvious.

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« Reply #1082 on: June 27, 2008, 10:04:14 PM »
@kames

That fifth wire is coming from the white connector you can see on the floor of the inside of the TPU. It is going into the bundle of wires coming from the right toroid. It is not going into the toroid or coming from the toroid itself. It is only using the bundle to either travel to the back again or it is connected to one of the four toroid wires, inside that right bundle.

This is an odd wire and I am tempted to equate it to the center collector tap wire in ottos yoke tpu. This is the only wire I can see that is breaking the symetry of the tpu design.

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« Reply #1083 on: June 27, 2008, 11:53:28 PM »
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.....This is an odd wire ......

Agree with being odd and strange.

However, I cannot forget how many people, including myself, were calling the first open tpu built using saw blades and what it eventually became with better quality pictures.

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« Reply #1084 on: June 29, 2008, 02:19:56 PM »
Note that The Hendershot Motor is also based on mechanical vibration (to be more exact, on impacts) - at least of all elements in the available diagrams for this motor, "magnet-iron bar" is the only "strange" element.

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« Reply #1085 on: June 29, 2008, 02:55:25 PM »
Hi Aleks

I have pondered the Hendershot device for many years. With the idea that form follows function and vice versa, my current conclusion (subject to change) is that the large capacitors in the center of the coils act like high frequency electrostatic (ultrasonic) transducers (electrostatic tweeters). These couple to the basketweave coils which are  horizontally transverse serpentine windings. The inventor poured beeswax between the tight fitting capacitors and the coils to improve mechanical coupling efficiency. Rotating acoustic waves and standing waves would propel electrons out of the coils. It is easy to visualize the ratcheting effect electrons will have as they spill over hill and vale of the serpentine windings being pushed and vibrated by the rotating acoustic waves.

Many who have built these devices neglected pouring the beeswax into the spaces between the coil and capacitor and have achieved negative results.

Any thoughts on this?......V

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« Reply #1086 on: June 29, 2008, 06:59:46 PM »
Hi Aleks

I have pondered the Hendershot device for many years. With the idea that form follows function and vice versa, my current conclusion (subject to change) is that the large capacitors in the center of the coils act like high frequency electrostatic (ultrasonic) transducers (electrostatic tweeters). These couple to the basketweave coils which are  horizontally transverse serpentine windings. The inventor poured beeswax between the tight fitting capacitors and the coils to improve mechanical coupling efficiency. Rotating acoustic waves and standing waves would propel electrons out of the coils. It is easy to visualize the ratcheting effect electrons will have as they spill over hill and vale of the serpentine windings being pushed and vibrated by the rotating acoustic waves.

Many who have built these devices neglected pouring the beeswax into the spaces between the coil and capacitor and have achieved negative results.

Any thoughts on this?......V

I have not studied Hendershot Motor that much, but what immediately took my attention is "magnet - iron bar - solenoid magnet" element which BUZZED when thing worked and delivered 110V, topic  "Unknown characteristics" here on page 24: http://www.scribd.com/doc/95105/The-Hendershot-Motor-Mystery It seems that the iron bar is actually suspended between permanent and solenoid magnets when in working condition. So, it is either beats between magnet and solenoid, or oscillates inbetween - but probably it both oscillates and beats - hence the buzzing is produced. There should be something in this, because such arrangement does not short-circuit anything like a switch: it is a plain mechanical resonator. What for? (I'm not insisting it is a working example of DC acoustic waves induced by clapping iron bar - but should not be discounted as well since Casimir force is an "alias" of the hypothesized DC acoustic waves or transient potentials).

Here, in topic "Mysterious Invention" http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm "steel bar and coil" and "two copper spheres" are mentioned ("It is a compact, cylindrical object with two small brass spheres protruding from the top. Inside, Ammann says, is an arrangement of steel wires and minerals"). This is also interesting considering Keely had a similar arrangement in his Motor, and also demonstrated a "finetuned" metal bar which rung by itself for a long time which probably involved some magnetostriction and with overunity feedback. If so, all Keely needed to gain energy is to put a coil near this bar, and magnetostriction would induce current there.

As for direct capacitor electrostatic-acoustic action, I find it very hard to objectionate and design. This seems to be a flaw with SM TPU as well. If this device's source of energy is magnetostrive resonance, everyone will have a hard time to find "the right" system design. There should be simpler ways to achieve that in my opinion.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 07:38:15 PM by aleks »

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« Reply #1087 on: June 30, 2008, 02:46:25 PM »
Ok, one quick post.....

I've read up a bit on Hendershot from the posted links  (thanks)  and I'm a bit confused.   The articles seem to talk about a "motor"  but we see some sort of a differential loop antenna "receiver" wound with 2 basket weave coils and other components all exibiting bi-symetry, etc...

then, searching around a bit on the internet, I found another link that had some quotes Hendershot made about his device.   He said he was invovled in understanding and working on a MAGNETIC INDUCTION COMPASS since he was interested in aviation instruments, and that he was simply using the magnetic field lines of the earth and there is no mystery about that, etc...

so, I did a search on "induction compass" (patent search)  and found quite a few devices, and what do you know,  it leads back full circle, to no other subject then our favorite subject:   SATURABLE CORES.    :)

When you saturate a core, it looses it's capability to concentrate the external magnetic flux of the earth, and the flux lines snap back out cutting through the windings and inducing a current.   So quite literally your creating energy from the "earths natural magnetic field"  This induction happens at twice the frequency that's driving the saturating core (as it saturates in both positive and negative voltage swings)   You know when you're saturating the core by monitoring the scope and seeing if you get twice the frequency content.  If you're only in the nonlinear region of the B-H curve, you only produce the third harmonic, and I've seen this too on my cores, but you realy need to go for that saturating phenomena.  

Now, what's left is to TUNE to the right frequency.  Even SM mentioned that Tesla had magnetometers that were tuned, etc.. 

EM

P.S.  if this doesn't make any sense, I'll go back to sleep...    LOL
look up patent # 2446939,  frequency doubling transformer,  the core itself is saturated by driving a current through it.  Use iron wire instead, it works wonders  :)
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« Reply #1088 on: June 30, 2008, 03:20:08 PM »
P.S.  if this doesn't make any sense, I'll go back to sleep...    LOL
look up patent # 2446939,  frequency doubling transformer,  the core itself is saturated by driving a current through it.  Use iron wire instead, it works wonders  :)

This makes sense to me because when core is in saturation, it runs at maximal magnetostrictive action with a lot of heating and strong standing waves (modes) in it, if right frequencies are used. However, an auto frequency locking mechanism is required as frequencies change when core increases its temperature. Microphone technique discussed here is just right for this. In my opinion, core's acoustic resonance should correspond to electro-magnetic resonance.

Also, frequency doubling produces zero frequency component due to self-heterodyning (50 Hz by 50 Hz produces 100 Hz and 0 Hz). 0 Hz is DC. Where it goes? In my opinion, this creates a constant field of some kind around the core - which quite possibly produces various strange EM effects, including extinction of Earth's magnetic field lines. Plus it may produce an etheric vortex - rotating EM field. I think quite the same is achieved by using CCW and CW opposite side windings together - this seems to be in test by some people on this forum.

As for the "energy from the earth magnetic field" hypothesis, this has to be proven in the future, by shielding the device from external fields. If it continues to work, it's not about ANY surrounding EM fields.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2008, 03:48:25 PM by aleks »

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« Reply #1089 on: June 30, 2008, 03:52:51 PM »
good point about the hypothesis,  I think these guys were thinking along the lines of magnetometers and so naturaly they are inclined to believe it's the earths magnetic field,  well, it's the magnetic field period.  Whether it comes from the earth or a magnet near by, it's the magnetic field, without it I don't think it would work.   The only other scenario I see is if the device starts to build it's own magnetic field and resonate internaly createing a strong vortex of sorts....   Hendershot mentioned that if he cuts the magnetic fields EAST-WEST as well he gets rotation,  etc....   These devices have to be related, just going by the descriptions.   Did SM read up on Hendershot and Tesla and get inspired ?   He did say he noticed interesting interactions in a transformer, etc....very interesting angle

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« Reply #1090 on: June 30, 2008, 04:34:29 PM »
Here's a graphic to show how the mag fields acts in two cases:  saturated and unsaturated core

The winding that's saturating the core will not see the external flux if it's wound all the way around, and with a judicial placement of a second winding (half qudrant on left and right)  the external flux can be put to "work" so it cuts through the coils as it snaps in and out.  The signal from the earth mag field would be small, but with the right resonant behaviour who knows what can be contrived .....


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« Reply #1091 on: June 30, 2008, 06:02:17 PM »
What will be the difference, if we put a magnet instead of the earth magnetic field.

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« Reply #1092 on: June 30, 2008, 06:03:49 PM »
What will be the difference, if we put a magnet instead of the earth magnetic field.

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« Reply #1093 on: June 30, 2008, 06:08:07 PM »
EMdevices, nice picture, but do not you think that in saturation mode the core will expel any external mag field?

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« Reply #1094 on: June 30, 2008, 06:08:52 PM »
@ tosky - Good point. Both SM and Stan Deyo said that their devices have different characteristics between hemispheres. But this can be overcome, as you suggest - both seem to have done so.

@ EMdevices - Thanks for the graphic. It's a good reminder that I still have more to learn.

 

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