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Author Topic: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban  (Read 419313 times)

Offline wattsup

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #960 on: May 29, 2008, 07:31:48 AM »
@Motorcoach1

Which circuit, the link I put up or the circuit diagram @itanimuLLi put up.

I think I found a good alternative for testing. I just took apart a computer speaker set. These have a built in amplifier. There is an input, plus output is stereo, hey talk about quality. I figure that by removing the AC transformer and passing the bridge rectifier, I see all it needs 12vdc. lol

What I will do is send the control coils through the Magoid coils in series with the speaker outputs, send the microphone to the input (but I may need a preamp). If this can create feedback, this will be fun.

Now to wind the rings.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #961 on: May 29, 2008, 08:57:02 AM »
@All

Would the following circuit be ok to amplify a microphone. It only has 4 componets. lol

http://www.tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=367.

That should be fine for an Electret condenser type mic. You will need to locally decouple right at the power input pin to the IC's gnd pin. These amps are very apt to motor boat (oscillate).

Good luck

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #962 on: May 29, 2008, 09:03:48 AM »
Jack,

would you still say that Steven is of the "cashier level"
or was that all just so that you could flush the guy out?

I think that you might consider apolagising for each and every distainful and insulting remark that you made about him ,now that you have what you want.

Its probable that this is not something that you would consider necessary


Lindsay



Actually I did go over all this with Steven and he was just fine after the smoke cleared! There's nothing left to want. For myself and many others there is closure on a handful of long outstanding issues. For those who wished Steven harm they were denied his phone number and email address. I only want peace and happiness for him and his family.

I should conclude this as some will see this as soap operatic.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #963 on: May 29, 2008, 09:09:37 AM »
@watssup
i found this on the net its a simple circuit to build a inverter for blacklight lamps you could use your coils in the circuit and it should oscillate by itself, without a microphone. consider the lamp as the load.

Looks like a conventional Colpitts oscillator. Such circuits can also be found in ultrasonic based technologies like ultrasonic baths used in cleaning jewelry, etc.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #964 on: May 29, 2008, 09:27:12 AM »
@JD

When feedback is on, you can yell "turn it off, turn it off", and it won't change the feedback until you either move the microphone or flick the switch off or unplug the amp. And, it will feedback at a frequency which is also an oscillation. The TPU diameter will influence the frequency and the diameter is determined by the circumference. lol

By the way, if you ever manage to find that Beta copy, we're all eyes.

You have to be careful when trying to tell the difference between sound sources or causes. A microphone like any other mechanical structure will have a natural resonant frequency. In this case if the mic's incident audio is not kept within its rated dynamic range the diaphragm will just travel from a rested state to full excursion and likely break into its own oscillation. If you have a scope it will be very easy to see if your sound source amplitude is within the limits of the mic.

Remember the mic in this role is acting as a phase lock loop of sorts.

Still sifting through boxes for the Beta version of the tape. I was able to determine that I recorded nearly every Saturday Night Live episode through the 90's however.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #965 on: May 29, 2008, 09:33:22 AM »
Actually I did go over all this with Steven and he was just fine after the smoke cleared! There's nothing left to want. For myself and many others there is closure on a handful of long outstanding issues. For those who wished Steven harm they were denied his phone number and email address. I only want peace and happiness for him and his family.

I should conclude this as some will see this as soap operatic.

My question was

Do you still see Steven as "Cashier level" tech ability?

Lindsay

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #966 on: May 29, 2008, 10:41:37 AM »
A microphone like any other mechanical structure will have a natural resonant frequency.
It's going to be very high if you consider e.g. a 5mm diaphragm (or alike structural size for piezo mic). If speed of sound in the structure is e.g. 2000m/s then the "uncontrollable" resonant frequency will be around 400kHz, that's pretty much above the projected excitation frequency (which is around 5kHz).

For the sake of experimentation I would suggest using pro audio grade condenser mics that have no self-oscillation in at least 20-20kHz range, and stand SPLs at least 140 dB: they are usually priced at $200 and above, and require phantom power - the ones I'm referring to usually come as 3/4" barrels about 5" long. The external enclosure may be removed and its going to be a very compact device. You may also get a cheap mixing board for its phantom-powered pre-amps (usually 2 XLR inputs).

What I personally like in acoustic resonance (if it is how TPU works) is that you can create a truly de-coupled control/collector, without risks of run-away like in the case of induction windings. Control is decoupled because no changing electrical potential on the collector will affect mic in any way: there will be only minor mechanical feedback and only if the windings are poorly wound (insulated windings will probably give no mechanical feedback at all). The main resonance mic should catch is from the overall structure, or from its largest and heaviest elements (e.g. solid toroid or a pack of iron wire).

To further minimize current-induced run-aways piezo mics should not be used as they will react on external electric field.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 11:29:05 AM by aleks »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #967 on: May 29, 2008, 10:57:01 AM »
@watssup
i found this on the net its a simple circuit to build a inverter for blacklight lamps you could use your coils in the circuit and it should oscillate by itself, without a microphone. consider the lamp as the load.
I think it's a wrong deal. What the purpose of random self-oscillation? Self-oscillation should be structural and that means that mechanical coupling to external toroid is required. Your scheme does not show means to do it: induction feedback does not necessarily mean it will lock to the required structural resonance. Mic can be attached anywhere on the toroid to catch the required resonance.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #968 on: May 29, 2008, 03:32:23 PM »
@JD

One question about SM so we can be clear. Do you know if it was actually SM that was in communication with Mannix. I think if anything, that one point should be made clear enough or expanded upon, if possible.

I realize if the feedback is too strong, it could destroy the microphone. Hmmmmmmm. So if I am too close to the true resonant frequency, and if the amplitude is strong enough it could destroy the microphone. Analogies anyone.

@all

Can't wait to get back home tonight and start doing some testing.

Now I was thinking about speakers and microphones. I know this is all pretty rudimentary compared to all the more sophisticated designs and orientations taken here but I am trying to stick with what physically fits inside an FTPU, no more, no less. This will hopefully help others advance in other ways. That's what we do here.

Well, we know a speaker coil needs current to produce a sound and a microphone needs sound to produce a current, but does the microphone also need a small seed current to make its coil/diaphragm like float inside its magnet so it can then respond to sound vibrations more easily. What I mean is when you plug a microphone into an amplifier input, is there any current on that input to start with or is it really a dead input.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #969 on: May 29, 2008, 03:41:31 PM »
and if the amplitude is strong enough it could destroy the microphone. Analogies anyone.
Nope, it won't destroy microphone in almost any case: it may only saturate it, but to break it you have to put much more acoustic vibratory energy than your ears may even bear.

Usually only condenser mics need phantom power. Dynamic mics do not need one - they provide enough power for noiseless pre-amplification. For very precise experimenting you will probably need a condenser mic due to its superior dynamic and frequency response. After that you may switch to ultra-cheap dynamic heads with a noisy and choppy response.

As I've replied earlier, such acoustic stimulation is as safe as it can be: acoustics can't do much physical harm. As long as your "magoid"'s amplifier is safe and correctly designed you do not have to worry even about pricy mics and pre-amps. The only question remains is whether such resonant acoustic stimulation will deliver surplus energy on collector windings or not.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #970 on: May 29, 2008, 04:25:33 PM »
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I should conclude this as some will see this as soap operatic.

Just for the fun of it. :)

Now that we have in this "chapter" the happy friends together and all is going well, it is only missing the final "wedding day" as the usual in every happy ending soap opera.
I can be the best man!

Fausto.

ps: not intende to offend anyone. But it is funny it is.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #971 on: May 29, 2008, 04:39:58 PM »
Best man? BAH!

I want HIGH QUALITY DVDs of all the Saturday Night Live shows from the 90's!
Now there is real overunity!



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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #972 on: May 30, 2008, 12:57:09 AM »
Hey guys,

This man gave EVERYONE the answer to the SM TPU and the final chapter of the Soap Opera. 
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg84865.html#msg84865

Have you built it?  Of course not.  LOL   ;D  It doesn't jive with everyones preconceptions.  I think the majority are more interested in the "drama" then really having a working device.

He already told you EXACTLY how it worked, and why!  But 99% of you will say, "nope, can't be!"  Ha!  The Feds have nothing to worry about.  Even given a schematic and a how to manual, most would not follow and still do it "their way"!   It is the nature of ego and pride.   ::)

Hearing and listening are not the same thing.  I feel compelled to give my input because with too many threads, history seems to be repeating itself.  And we do not learn from history, thus continue to make the same mistakes.

I have said ALL of that, to encourage, and challenge everyone to listen to the words of the above aforementioned public post and use that as a framework for experimentation.  You might just be surprised!  ;)

Or everyone can continue the drama and that's fine too.  But it will not help the current energy situation.  Of course all of this is just my 10 cents, and you are free to totally disregard everything I have said.   :) ;) :D   

Cheers,

Bruce


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #973 on: May 30, 2008, 02:39:37 AM »
Well said bruce...
Hey that's the second time I have said that...

Fantastic signature..
Lindsay


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #974 on: May 30, 2008, 05:06:48 AM »
Hey guys,

This man gave EVERYONE the answer to the SM TPU and the final chapter of the Soap Opera. 
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.msg84865.html#msg84865

Have you built it?  Of course not.  LOL   ;D  It doesn't jive with everyones preconceptions.  I think the majority are more interested in the "drama" then really having a working device.

He already told you EXACTLY how it worked, and why!  But 99% of you will say, "nope, can't be!"  Ha!  The Feds have nothing to worry about.  Even given a schematic and a how to manual, most would not follow and still do it "their way"!   It is the nature of ego and pride.   ::)

Hearing and listening are not the same thing.  I feel compelled to give my input because with too many threads, history seems to be repeating itself.  And we do not learn from history, thus continue to make the same mistakes.

I have said ALL of that, to encourage, and challenge everyone to listen to the words of the above aforementioned public post and use that as a framework for experimentation.  You might just be surprised!  ;)

Or everyone can continue the drama and that's fine too.  But it will not help the current energy situation.  Of course all of this is just my 10 cents, and you are free to totally disregard everything I have said.   :) ;) :D   

Cheers,

Bruce

i mentioned that spherics should be taken notice of a couple times in the past--no one paid attention then, and none will now.

so one of the tpu-elites has built it and had success huh? well, i'll believe it when i see their results, or my own...no time right now though.

i'm not skeptical of the spherics text (although there are inconsistencies), but i have seen too many times before people claiming things far too soon--before they even know what they really have (take the "single circuits generate nuclear reactions" thread as a perfect example).

so if someone really has something, why don't they come forward?

drama? you bet. people here love it and make certain that there always is some to consume

spare us the speaches though bruce--you're guilty as well of not listening