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Offline Jdo300

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2008, 09:13:10 AM »
All this dribbling of minute details from Steven reminds me of the movie "The birdman from Alcatraz". It's like Steven is sitting in a cell looking forward to every moment he can share with someone without really ever revealing anything of merit assuring many future visits. This guy could have cut to the chase at any time and just revealed the details but he chose to just tease and toil. I wonder how much of his tales are just ad lib. The devices are very obviously very simple and use a scarcity of parts. There just can't be much to this technology once uncovered. The smallest unit really shows how simple this has to be in that there is just no room for anything beyond the basics.

Hi Jack,

There is a FAQ PDF that was compiled a while back which addresses many of the most commonly asked questions about the TPU here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=712.0;attach=10461

Point 13 in the document addresses your question about Steven's seemingly elusive approach to sharing information. But you can read more specifics about in the main PDF full of his letters to Lindsay.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2008, 09:21:58 AM »
Could you please name the attorney and the Spheric management guy?s names please ?

Who was the guy that filmed the video and who was the one assisting Steven Mark
with putting in the lightbulbs at the biggest device ?

Do you know or ever spoke to John Sanchez a colleague of Prof.
Roland Schinzinger ?

The attorney was Cavenaugh and he is the shooter and lamp assistant.

Never heard about the two guys that did the test but I can look them up. I have Nexis Lexus.

Here's a little bit of fun for all you junior psychologists out there. Watch how Cavenaugh runs the camera. He periodically sneaks in close ups that are very brief as if to get one over on the boss. It makes him look like he is also there just to rip off the technology like everyone else!

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2008, 10:07:54 AM »
:o what's that purple glow around the top perimeter and also to the right?
That's a light of strong air ionization. If so, the device is really is dangerous to health if you expose yourself to it for too long.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2008, 10:17:01 AM »
full speed
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2008, 02:16:26 PM »
@All

Anybody see the big toggle switch on the small TPU shown on the glass coffee table. I never saw that in the old vids.

@JD

On the video you put up on YouTube at 3.32 you will see the Open TPU (OTPU) and a circuit and the left leg is covered with a slip on sheath for rapid battery replacement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X26_8LW-S2o

More on the OTPU device I have put up a pdf here. Just look at the pictures.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3403.0;attach=13871

Your comment about bits of info is correct also and this has been a tribulation trying to weed out what is relevant and what is not. When you take SM statements in the context of their originating threads, you often get the feeling we were the teacher and he was just "going with the flow".

One of the first analogies "magnet over wire" was probably the only real analogy and realizing the level of sophistication of the guys here, he quickly changed his tune to not give out any more.

@All

The theory of operation will be simple because it can only work if it is simple. If you follow the law of probabilities, the less components and operational fancies, the more chance you have for it to work, because there will be an exponential lessening in variables that could go wrong. Simple. lol

Question; If the TPU is too work in a loop, is it not better to have the beginning and the ending to be the same. I think from now on, if you guys want to consider the function, you have to consider the complete functional loop. A working loop can do things that a straight linear driven scheme cannot do. And what do you think that is? So if you do builds, build it all or don't waste your time. If you don't think loop from the start, you won't get it.

Stefan, put up some great thoughts on the OTPU. This is what we need is observations that are directly relating to the physical device. 

Reed switches oscillate when placed between an iron core coil and a magnet or when inside an air core coil and a magnet on the side. I have tried it and it works.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2008, 04:55:52 PM by wattsup »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2008, 07:16:16 PM »
@wattsup,

So you think that the reed switches and magnet might be SM's control circuit? or his Oscillator?

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2008, 07:24:59 PM »
I'm not sure about the reed switch theory Jack brought to us, so I'm hoping he can clarify more.

Why? 

Well just look at the way the magnets are used in some of the larger units.  It is the speaker magnet and it has the IRON DISKS on it.   What does that mean?   It means the magnetic field is very very small outside of it since all the flux is contained in the iron disks and the flux is strongest only in the tiny circular gap where the speaker cone coils would be located. And look how he moves the magnet about in different locations along the TPU, that does not tell me he has VERY VERY SENSITIVE reed switches ALL OVER the place, it's kind of ridiculous to think that.

Then in the First TPU, the spool one,   we see  he places the magnet on the ferrite toroid, EXACTLY AT THE SYMETERY point between the two coils.   What does that do?   It's a form of bias to bring the B-H curve closer to saturation to allow for nonlinear operation.  We already went over this so many times.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2008, 07:48:47 PM »
@Jack

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This sounds like Steven but I have trouble with the theory of operation. If one believes that the frequencies are unimportant and are determined by the circumference of the device then it is not a resonant receiver.

Why is it not a resonant receiver, if the frequencies are determined by the circumfernece?  Is that what you are saying?

When a frequency has a wavelength depended on the circumference, that's when you hit resonace and have standing waves.  You can have 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, wavelengths etc.., after all loop antennas become directive when this happens.

What wavelength are we talking about?   Is it the one determined by the speed of light?  If yes, then the frequencies would have to be very high.  (at 300 MHz the wavelength in free space is 1 meter)

What if the wavelength is a sonic wavelength in the iron wire or material?   You see weve been down this road before.  If you listen carefully to what Steven says in the Dual Ring Open Tpu,  he says his frequency is 6kHz, and we approximated that this matches with the speed of sound in the ring judging the size from the video.  So we embarked on the MAGNETOSTRICICTION theory for a while and and I still have not discarded this theory yet.   

The reality is that Steven did not know how his device realy operated, or rather where the energy comes from, he just stumbled on the effect using 3 frequencies, then later he realized there are so many combinations.  So what does all this mean?     To me it means it is a type of mixer, and he is heterodyning  and mixing frequencies and taping into a low Schumann or radio tower frequency in a VERY EFFICIENT manner so lots of power gets produced.    Why does he mention the 7.3 Hz vibration of the first TPU (spool type)  ?     well, that happens to be close to the Schumann frequency.

Here's some things he said:  

   
I and my collogues noted the rather maximum magnetic factors involved with the devices in operation, i.e., there is always extremely strong magnetic fields at frequency at close and distant proximity. We were never able to actually understand what came first... The fields or the power. Are the fields just a coupling mechanism from a power source converted from? Or is the power source that the unit couples just the earth's magnetic field pure and simple?We were coached to come to a decision and maintain that it is the Earth's magnetic field which is the source of the power which is converted by the power units while in operation.
Well, I tell you now Lindsay that actually we never found out what the absolute provable source of the power is. Our founding was cut off. The powers that be assumed we had a marketable item and that money would be available for future research. we would find out all the secrets of the universe, etc.
However, that was not to be.
So here we are..... I tell you that I honestly do not know for sure where the actual source of the power comes from.


and also this:

I am restricted from making any statements involving the following:
Size and number of turns of collector coil.
Material of collector coil.
Control apparatus.
Any control frequency.
Any combinations of control frequencies.
Any lack of controlled frequencies, etc.
Amount of amplification and or power of input needed, etc.
I have been in some difficulty trying to convey as much help as I can while being restricted by these parameters.


Why would the material of a coil be restricted?   Because it's something unconventional and the secret revolves around it.  Also note it's the material of the COLLECTOR coil.    :)   
If you understand some of the theory of magnetostriction you will understand a lot.

more:

This is exactly what I said to Dr. Schinzinger the first day I met him. I blatantly admitted that we knew how to make the music but had no idea how the violin worked. He told me that he understood fully what I meant and that he wanted to work on the solution with me if I would be willing. I agreed and was excited with the thought, but the gentlemen I worked with did not think it was such a good idea.

more:

I understand about your frustration concerning your experiments. I was never frustrated because I stumbled on to the right combination and then just worked up more from there.

more:

However, I very much enjoyed the concepts you sent to me because these people appear to be thinkers and in fact have many parts to the concept puzzle. If you read the information provided by many research scientists you will find that it seems to always point to some form of release or catalyst of sorts occurring.?  .Note that in the TPU this is what happens. I never had the benefit of knowing exactly what was going on inside the thing. We had theories and so on but never any concrete facts. I kept moving frequencies up and down, changing control devices and size of rings the kind of wire and materials used and over the years we developed some basics for tpu design. But we never found out all of the high order thinking involving the depth of some of the research I have read about.
Sincerely,
SM   

EM
« Last Edit: April 18, 2008, 02:28:42 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2008, 08:10:09 PM »
Why does he mention the 7.3 Hz vibration of the first TPU (spool type)  ?
Measuring or estimating such frequency by ear is impossible. Only a very high quality microphone can go that low. 7.3 Hz could be a speculation if no clear claim vibration was measured with a mic exists. Measuring ambient EM fields of this frequency are also very problematic I think.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2008, 08:16:42 PM »
If you understand some of the theory of magnetostriction you will understand a lot.
Sorry if you dislike my ideas, magnetostriction is closely related to acoustics and so probably to my DC acoustical wave hypothesis. One of the proposals I had is to use powdered iron core coils which should exhibit strong phonon production on pulses. This is also a kind of magnetostriction, but without a solid material involved, so there is no other effects available like potential electric field buildup - only phonon excitation. It will go better with time as powder becomes finer and finer due to pulsing.

correction: I incorrectly referred to potential electric field. I meant a kind of "tension" field between atoms of a magnetostrictive material. In the case of powder such field is not created.
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2008, 09:04:03 PM »
Why does he mention the 7.3 Hz vibration of the first TPU (spool type)  ?
Measuring or estimating such frequency by ear is impossible. Only a very high quality microphone can go that low. 7.3 Hz could be a speculation if no clear claim vibration was measured with a mic exists. Measuring ambient EM fields of this frequency are also very problematic I think.

that's exactly the point,  why does he mention the vibration to the decimal point?   It's because he MEASURED it.  On a scope?  yes,  it is a beat frequency, and you can see those quite easily on the scope.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2008, 09:14:54 PM »
that's exactly the point,  why does he mention the vibration to the decimal point?   It's because he MEASURED it.  On a scope?  yes,  it is a beat frequency, and you can see those quite easily on the scope.
Why would it beat at 7.3Hz? Beat frequency is a difference between two frequencies of any magnitude being summed. This means that one of the frequencies in the sum should be shifted by 7.3Hz against the other. I do not see how one of the frequencies can be shifted due to ambient oscillation without the other shifting there as well and thus removing any beating. The only 'sane' answer is that SM puprosely used two frequencies with a difference of 7.3Hz between them. Being at beating is energy ineffective. Any natural - or rather naturally induced - oscillations won't (or likely won't) exhibit such behavior.

Then you should ask yourself how a sinewave of 100Hz can be shifted to 107.3Hz, for example? This is heterodyning which in the simplest case can be produced from a sum of 7.3 Hz and 100 Hz with a heavy saturation applied. This will produce intermodulation distortion with 107.3Hz created. Not to note this will work only if the amplitudes of both 100 Hz and 7.3 Hz waves are basically equal. Otherwise no such heterodyning will be present (only a normal saturation of the loudest wave will happen).
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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2008, 09:55:25 PM »
this is great

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2008, 10:06:44 PM »
great?
it's starting to look like the biggest joke in history.


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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2008, 10:59:35 PM »
         Looks to me like Mark or Marks whatever was a tinkerer.  He has more shit taped down to the open tpu stonehenge looking thing than U-DO-IT electronics distributor has in it's central warehouse.
    Build it and you will understand?  Build what? 

 

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