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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #555 on: April 26, 2008, 02:15:02 AM »
nice to see some of you playing  ;D  been a lonely place round here...

how ever i did not hear any talk of the ramp up or the compounded engery  if there was a cap could you not capture the little kicks and dump them off with the source and refire agin and agin  what would happin?? 


yea i think we all know what will happin  ;)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #556 on: April 26, 2008, 02:25:00 AM »
Thank you for your support Jack & Sparks.

Jack, it would be of IMMENSE VALUE if you can remember which way the Compass Spun Up.  Was it clockwise or CCW?  That would tell everyone which way the Coils need to Pulse, CW or CCW, to operate properly.

SM spoke of his compass spinning up & coasting down when the TPU was shut off.  I watched all of the Low Res Films, but none of them showed a compass.

Can you remember anything on that?

Thank you Jack for all of your contributions.
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Thanks first of all.


Wish I could tell you but that demo was done after I already parted company. I do believe the story though as I know in my heart that what I felt was rotary or angular transfer of energy from coil to coil. The effect was tangible and not some sense of psychic interlude with the unknown!

Hi Jack,
maybe you can write up a summary or compilation about the things you still
remember about it, when you saw the TPU and please include all the stories around it.

This way we don?t have to ask you again and again what you have seen, so
we just can study your writeup.

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #557 on: April 26, 2008, 03:01:26 AM »
Stefan,

not sure jack will be back or not after the treatment he just received.

@the perpetrator: was that really called for? maybe an apology is in order?

say goodbye to that second batch of videos i guess........nice goin'

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #558 on: April 26, 2008, 03:21:47 AM »
Jack, please do not leave because one member here spouted off his mouth.  I, for one, have found your bits of information in the SM story helpful, along with the high-quality videos. 

Also, to all, how do you know Jack is "wrong"?  I have seen exactly zero tests documented here on this thread...with the exception of Jason and myself.

If I find anything interesting myself, I am tempted to post it somewhere else and only let certain members here know of it--at least for a little while.

Don't drive away our most valuable resource--those who have actually been there and seen one of these TPUs in action!

Eldarion

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #559 on: April 26, 2008, 03:48:08 AM »
@mikestocks

Good work. I'm glad to see some are trying reeds and you discovered the magnet at the right angles makes it oscillate. If you try and find some normally closed reeds also and use them side by side to the NO reed connecting one of the ends together. This will enable you to send the flyback to another coil and check the secondary output of that one. Actually a three way reed is preferable but two reeds having the same specs except for NO and NC will do this. I think if the TPU was using reeds, the 20 minute run time is logical. A 3-way reed would enable reusing the flyback instead of having it return only to create heat and burn out the reed.

@all

I just wound my first FTPU ring (see photo). It is easy to make. I used thinner bailing wire but instead of two turns, I used 5 turns to make up for the thinness.

I have a few empty toroid cores and will see if I can drill some holes from the top down to pass a collector wire through it then do some added experiments. Hope they don't crack because these cores are usually brittle.

From looking at the FTPU, I am getting the understanding that this device is not one looped system. It is two looped systems. A low level and a high level loop. As long as the first loop works the second loop will cycle. This type of separate function keeps currents isolated. The black wire in the toroid is isolated form the toroid/ring circuit. The reed switch isolates the drive mechanism and it is the perfect timing reflection of the actual point at which the toroid/ring combo becomes saturated. The field says I'm ready, the reed says go. We have to trust the field. But I will get more into this once I start doing some specific experiments.

Also, please understand that the ring may have to be looked at again. There seems to be something missing either in the rings or in the use of the rings. The rings are far to flimsy to rely on magnetic coupling to transfer that much energy. I feel it will be pointless to do stand alone tests with just one ring or only the two rings, or only the toroid. It is the combination that makes the whole. Such a ring would concentrate a directional field from the center of the ring going perpendicular, through the toroid, the toroid would transfer this magnetic energy into electrical energy to the black laced wire..

In water systems (my daily specialty), we can increase water pressure by adding another pump. If you have two pumps of 10 gpm, one that supplies 60 psi to another that develops 100 psi, by running them one into the other, you will get 160 psi. This is often used for two stage systems. This could be the same analogy. One ring field pushes the second at a combined much higher intensity through the toroid. If it is done right, the flyback from one ring could supply the energy to the second ring, thus driving both rings with one energy impulse.

I know this throws some ideas out into another direction but this is the nature of the beast. Let's stay open to all possibilities since we know the tpus are employing variations of the same theme. Maybe one last point guys. What we are doing here is not an exercise in flattering our egos. Ideas can be born one day and die the next when confronted with logic. I would be the first one to knock down an idea I had put forth, no hesitation, because the end result primes over everything else.

@JD

Don't fret about Marco will ya. He gets like that sometimes but he is actually a really nice guy. Smart too. I'm sure you've dealt with more then this. See you soon.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #560 on: April 26, 2008, 04:02:12 AM »
Hi Wattsup,

Nice ring you have there! ;)

I'd like to throw a couple of suggestions out, if you don't mind:
1. In the first picture here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4486.msg91862.html#msg91862 to the right on the top ring, just below the rightmost black electrical tape, it looks like there are two independent wires with yellow electrical tape on them.  I would hazard a guess that these two wires are the collector, and that they are not iron.  There may well be iron in the ring, just that it looks like there are two wires that are not.  (Ever tried to solder anything to iron? ;D)  So maybe you could put a couple of copper lamp cord wires alongside the iron in your ring?

2. It looks like SM used magnet wire to wrap the coils around the outside, not normal hookup wire...this may or may not make a difference, just thought I'd throw it out.

I have been testing other configurations, and have not yet had a chance to build or test anything like your configuation.

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #561 on: April 26, 2008, 05:19:04 AM »
OK, a couple more items:
1. Can anyone help me identify the component on the bottom of the OTPU that I found?  I have uploaded a nice clear segment of the video here (about 21Mb): http://www.falconir.com/otpu_circuit.zip

2. I did some cross-correlation on Dave Doleshaw's comments, spheric's posts, SM's words, and what I see in the TPUs.  Looks like Spheric may actually have given us some valid information!

In chronological order:
1. SM claims his unit operates by disabling the effects of magnetic flux.
2. Spheric writes in and claims that SM's technology is based on phased resonant bifilar coils, with the delay element being made of iron.
3. I see bifilar coils in the new clear videos from Jack Durban.
4. Dave Doleshaw writes and reveals that SM has said his technology is similar to something Tesla invented before the mid 1890s.

I did some searching around, and lo and behold, Tesla was granted his famous bifilar coil patent in 1894.  The patent application was filed in 1893, which means the coil was probably invented in 1892 or early 1893.  Not only that, but Tesla stated that the whole purpose of his coil was to disable what is now known as inductive reactance (I believe he called them "false currents" in the patent).

Now I do not think that Spheric's wiring diagram was correct--in fact, his whole language conveys a sense that he heard this information second-hand, and we are hearing the events as he understood them.  But I think there are grains of truth in there!  What if the bifilar coil was actually connected like the Tesla patent, and the delay element was inserted in the coil to coil connection?  (What I am talking about here will be readily apparent if you look at the patent)

Just seems too good to ignore...

BTW the patent number is 512340

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #562 on: April 26, 2008, 05:40:56 AM »
    Spherics failed to state clearly,  just hinted, as to the construction of the coils aimed in the tetrahedryl  configuration.  I think bifilar wound wire with one wire made of copper and one wire made of steel would be a good thing to start with if you want to direct a magnetic field.  The kick gets split between the two wires.
The copper will produce it's magnetic field first and then the iron field behind it.
Should make that copper magnetic field go the way you want it to.  :)

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #563 on: April 26, 2008, 05:54:12 AM »
Sparks, you may have something there.

Was there ever a speaker wire manufactured with one wire copper and the other wire a stainless steel or tin or aluminum or another silver metal?  I seem to recall that in some speaker wires, one conductor is copper and the other conductor is a silver metal.

If aluminum, we might be generating a "scalar wave" ala Lawrence Rayburn from so long ago--this had completely slipped my mind until just now!  He had claimed that a high-voltage pulsed copper coil wound at 90 degrees to an aluminum coil would not only create thrust (the gyroscopic or vibration effect) but some other interesting stuff as well.  I wonder if it could be this simple???  His post was very hard to find, even 4 years ago; it may not exist any more.  When I found it it was buried in someone's reply with the original post completely missing...hmmm....

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« Reply #564 on: April 26, 2008, 06:04:49 AM »
@eldarion

Yes. Some speaker 'paired' wires had one lead tinned and the other not. I 'assumed' it was to aid in keeping track of polarity.

Some speaker wires were aluminum. That has been a long time ago. I remember replacing them with copper every time I ran into them. Both leads were aluminum.

I tried to download your file and it ran blank for about 2 seconds.

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« Reply #565 on: April 26, 2008, 06:08:25 AM »
Hi BEP,

That's good to know.  I remember working with a speaker cable that was half silver, half copper.  I looked online and others confirm that the silver wire is usually aluminum.  I wonder if SM was using aluminum and copper speaker wire?

Rgarding my file, that's odd.  Try opening it in RegiStax--that way you can step through it frame by frame, forwards and backwards.  I just tried it now and it worked for me.  Maybe your player doesn't like the size of the AVI?

Let me know if RegiStax doesn't work and I will look into the problem.

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« Reply #566 on: April 26, 2008, 06:24:45 AM »
   I think that was what SM/Spherics was blabbering about when he was talking about the NMR of iron.  Something like an inside out piece of coax.

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« Reply #567 on: April 26, 2008, 06:41:04 AM »
Ok. That clip forces me to eat my words on batteries in the handy box but nothing else. It reinforces my views on counter wound coils, pc board mounted tuned inductors, Lenz collectors East and West under the magnets and grid coils.

That bulbous black thing behind the supposed pc board with a single large white wire coming out?
Try the head of a flyback yoke  ;D

Can't wait to get a working copy of the better resolution!

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« Reply #568 on: April 26, 2008, 07:56:31 AM »
Ok. That clip forces me to eat my words on batteries in the handy box but nothing else. It reinforces my views on counter wound coils, pc board mounted tuned inductors, Lenz collectors East and West under the magnets and grid coils.

That bulbous black thing behind the supposed pc board with a single large white wire coming out?
Try the head of a flyback yoke  ;D

Can't wait to get a working copy of the better resolution!

Good!  I think at this point the only remaining way for the OTPU video to be faked would be batteries in the lamp bases, but that is extremely unlikely given the weight of the lamps and the fact that they did appear dimmer with the TPU power vs. standard line current.  So the TPU looks to be real!

Maybe if you draw up a diagram of the OTPU as you see it based on these principles I will have a better shot at actually replicating it.  I got most of what you said earlier, and wouldn't mind building two OTPU prototypes--one based on my aluminum idea, and the other based on your ideas. ;)  If that is a flyback there, then it lends credence to the pulsed HV into aluminum idea.

Funny thought--what if the toroidal coil on top of the FTPU is just a simple pulsed HV power supply?  The output terminals seem to be connected directly to the collector wire, not to the toroid.

If you want specific shots of the OTPU, or FTPU, just let me know and I can post snippets of the videos in much the same manner as I did now.  Just give me a time index in the lousy quality video, and I can extract and post up to about 20 seconds of high quality deinterlaced video.  (The deinterlacing process took hours on my Athlon 5200+, and chewed up about 75Gb of disk space! :o)

All,

Something important that I would like to mention one more time: these devices do not have to be toroidal as far as I can tell.  The fact that he cut a section out of one and it continued to work underscores this.  The toroidal construction just happens to be the most efficient way to pack the required coil setups into a working device, in my opinion.  If you want further justification for this assertion, just look at the OTPU!  According to standard electromagnetics, no significant EM coupling should be able to occur between the segments on that plastic or wooden frame.  Also look at the relatively sloppy construction of the coils on the frame--it looks like they were wound around the frame solely to anchor them to something.   I am guessing the secret lies in the material makeup of the coils, and any hidden winding(s) that may be laid down in parallel with the main bifilar coils.  And yes, they are definitely bifilar (I have a video frame clearly showing this).

Please, try to poke holes in my theories here before I spend lots of time and money testing them! :D

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Re: HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban
« Reply #569 on: April 26, 2008, 08:15:18 AM »
@Eldarion, I don't know about money, but time yes, thats why people like Tesla spent all their lives dedicated to the sport....

Just be prepared to spend some time, and to take respite and thought, you will need patience, and this will be as much as getting it to work.
1 % inspiration, 99% perspiration, don't burn yourself out.......take your time and plan your next move when things don't work out right.

Cheers,

Dom

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